Obama wins Wyoming and Mississippi in landslides, also TX caucus

[thoughtcrime1984]

Don't want all this "breaking news" to get lost amidst the Ferraro and Olbermann battles.

[ossman]

1. dont forget about hookergate

[thoughtcrime1984]

3. oops, how could I leave out Spitzer

Sorry! :)

[alteredstate]

2. Yep --- Obama won the Texas caucuses!!!

:bounce:

[billbuckhead]

But not even close among actual voters

Once again Hillary's opponent has to run away from democracy to win.

[ossman]

8. But he made up that margin already. Next BS excuse...

[annie1]

10. what the majority wants is a BS excuse? YAY FOR BUSH! HE WON IN 2000!

[alteredstate]

14. Are you trying to up your post count tonight?

[billbuckhead]

18. In Texas?

[PseudoIntellect]

15. It's not Hillary's opponent who wants to run away from democracy.

It's Hillary with her elitist insults and lack of simple acknowledgement toward her democratic voters and supporters in small states, red states, and caucuses. I don't see how Hillary supporters can argue about who's democratic. She wants the superdelegates to overturn the pledged delegates, the popular vote, the state count, etc. Caucuses are far more democratic than superdelegates. She doesn't seem to have any problem with them, though.

The only way to argue that she won Texas is either that she won the primary and lost overall or that the caucus simply doesn't count. And I think the rules say it did count.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. But Wyoming and Mississippi are states that don't count.

Caucuses don't count either.

Unless Hillary wins them, they don't count.

:sarcasm:

[annie1]

7. caucus count, but they don't represent the people.

[stillcool]

12. Tell that to the people of Iowa.

What state do you live in? Does your state choose how they run their Primary, or does Hillary?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. Oh. Then I guess I shouldn't have bothered to go to my state's caucus.

Silly me, for thinking my caucus vote counted.

[stillcool]

5. Not that it matters...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

Total Delegates-- Obama 1616 --Clinton 1487
Popular Vote--Obama 13,278,372 49.5%
Clinton 12,576,210 46.9%

[annie1]

9. gosh, 46.9% vs. 49.5%, hillary should drop out!

[stillcool]

11. but Hillary is ahead..

she thinks Obama should be her VP. None of the states he won matter. The popular vote doesn't matter. Caucuses don't matter. Does the Democratic Party matter?

[annie1]

6. TX perfect example of how a caucus does not represent what the majority wants.

[rainbow4321]

16. No, TX caucus is example of how HRC can't organize her supporters

The people that voted for HRC in the primary voting system had just as much opportunity to GO their precinct caucus as the Obama supporters did..no one locked them inside their homes that night, they were bombarded with the TX 2 step ads for a whole month just as much as anyone here in TX...the caucus was no hidden secret that ONLY Obama supporters knew about. Well, I take that back, the people running her camp **were** clueless about our hybrid primary system but that was b/c of their own ignorance, not b/c TX kept it a secret from them. HRC primary voters chose to not go in force to their precincts that night.
Go pick up a copy of the Rolling Stone issue that has Obama on the cover and read the looonnnggg article on how HRC TX campaign (or non-campaign) strategy imploded all by it self and how Obama's people had boots on TX soil MONTHS before anyone even about thought TX.
And just to not leave any doubt in anyone's mind about their ignorance, her people then let her say at a stump speech in a post Super Tuesday speech that voters don't know how to caucus, she even polled her audience by saying "who here has EVER caucused before?".
UM, I'd say 90% of the people at MY precinct caucus never had, either, but we figured it out. Go to the precinct site at 7:15 (the time told to us by every TV and radio/newspaper ad), and then we looked for someone in charge (i.e the person carrying the most paperwork around and yelling directions at the crowds) and we FOLLOWED THEIR INSTRUCTIONS. Wah-lah...we were caucusing!! 80 of us for Obama and 40 for HRC. And guess which of the 2 groups got more delegates assigned that night in our precinct? That would be the Obama group. In fact, he won our county that night.
HRC camp can't seem to grasp how to get their people to organize so it's easier for them to wail on national media that caucuses don't work, that they are too complex for voters to figure out. Speak for yourselves, HRC people, cuz the Obama voters seem to be doing just fine.

[Scurrilous]

17. K & R

:thumbsup: