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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:30 PM
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Hillary is here because of who she is married to, and the country is caught up in the concept...
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 06:32 PM by sfam
Does that sound any better? Nope, not to me, but it does denigrate everything else Hillary is as a person, what she has done and has stood for simply by highlighting one aspect of who she is. Had she not been a first lady to a governor, then president, would she be running for president now?

The real answer is we don't know. Just as we wouldn't know about Obama if he had been born to different parents. We would know that Obama was still brilliant enough to not only get into Harvard Law school, but lead the Law Review (or did they only elect him because he was black?). We do know that he still would probably be a very inspirational speaker (unless his blackness created his inspirational speaking capability). And we do know that Hillary would still be a brilliant person, whatever she ended up doing. Then again, the trajectory of both of these candidates is clearly based on their entire past - the problem comes in highlighting one aspect, which serves to denigrate the total person.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:34 PM
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1. This whole strategy just makes me want to stab myself in the eye.
It's straight out of the race-baiting anti-affirmative-action playbook:

Make all the white people in the company look at the ONE black guy and think "Does he really deserve to be here? Or was he just hired because he was black?"

Hell, 30 years ago it would have been 100 men looking at the one woman and thinking the same thing. It brings to mind the line that led to James Watt's ouster: "I have a black, a woman, two Jews and a cripple. And we have talent." :(
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:38 PM
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3. Yep... I Totally Agree...
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:40 PM
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4. "the line tha led to James Watt's ouster" -- I thought it was, "What do 'Negroes' want?"
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:35 PM
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2. It's true.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:51 PM
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5. Actually, I've heard that said about Clinton, by many pundits last week and
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 07:01 PM by Breeze54
I thought it was totally unfair. To say she only got where she is because of her husband is BS, imho.
I think they are together because of their interests in law and that was what attracted them to each other and running for office. HRC would have been running for office whether she had met and married Bill Clinton or not. Same thing goes for Obama. He obviously had an interest in law and justice because he went to law school and he worked as a community organizer, helping the disadvantaged and he met and married a woman who also had an interest in law, as his wife is also a lawyer. And Yes! Obama would have become a national figure, imho. He just has that way about him and it's evident from the throngs of crowds that come out to see him. He's a star and it shows. Ferraro's comments seem to have been taken out of context, if you read the whole interview but her choice of words were poor and she should have known better, to say the least and I'm glad she stepped down. To bad she didn't apologize though, whether she thinks she's right or not. What she said hurt a lot of feelings and angered many and for that she should apologize and HRC should give a much more forceful rebuke of Ferraro's words.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:04 PM
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6. I just checked a very long speech of hers...they weren't out of context...but
yeah, saying this about Hillary is just as bunk as it is saying this about Obama.
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