Clinton: Michigan Primary Was Fair

[NYDem Observer]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/12/florida.michigan/index.html


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton on Wednesday warned that millions of people in Florida and Michigan "are in danger of being excluded from our democratic process" if their votes are not counted.

Plans for a possible mail-in primary for Florida voters seems less likely, sources say.The Democratic National Committee stripped both states of their delegates for violating party rules by scheduling their primaries too early. At issue is whether Democrats in Michigan and Florida will get to weigh in again in the contest between Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama.

"The results of those primaries were fair and they should be honored," Clinton told a breakfast gathering hosted by the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce Foundation in Washington.


How could she claim Michigan was fair when Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot?

[tekisui]

1. Because she is losing.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

2. That's negotiation

You ask for the moon. If she started out with a milder position, she'd be conceding ground in what will be a negotiated outcome.

[NYDem Observer]

4. The Moon?

This isn't even in the galaxy. Does she think we're idiots?

[redqueen]

18. No, that's lunacy.

No sane person could call the MI election 'fair'... not by any stretch of the imagination.

[cali]

22. hmm. you castigate Obama with thin gruel about how he's

trying to block the will of the people, and yet have no problem whatsoever with Hillary pushing a blatantly unfair beauty contest to count. You say it's a negotiating position. Why isn't Obama's position also a negotiating position?

[high density]

47. She's not in a position to negotiate

Plus if your first offer is so crazy and off the wall, chances the side you're trying to negotiate with just walks out and figures you're a candidate for the loony bin.

[Avalux]

3. OMG - FAIR? She is so much like the GOP I can't stand it.

She hedges her bets that when she lies, most of the people listening to her are too stupid to know any better. Keep repeating the lie over and over and over and eventually it becomes truth.

[Buzz Clik]

25. In Florida the playing field was sort of level -- nobody campaigned, all names on ballot

But Michigan? Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot.

She's lost it.

[GOTV]

5. There are no legitimate votes in those elections because people we told...

... that the votes would not be counted.

[polichick]

6. She has officially LOST IT!

[Debi]

7. Because she won Michigan so it should count

[CreekDog]

42. Yeah, she was victorious over UncleMitted!

:rant:

[HeraldSquare212]

8. But caucuses, where all candiates are on the ballot, are unfair.

It's a tricky thing, negotiating the landscape in Hillaryland.

[thereismore]

9. Which planet is she from? nt

[Cha]

10. zidzi": hilary shut

the fuck up.

[Quixote1818]

11. Polling in Michigan shows Obama could win now. How is that fair? nt

[debatepro]

12. people stayed home

because they knew it wouldn't count in FL and MI.

[butterfly77]

37. I was for hillary she is a fighter but,,,

she is destroying the party I have been going back and forth about who I should vote for but this thing about voting for her just because she is a woman or the fact that she thinks it is her turn has turned me off. Last week if they would have had the vote in Michigan she would have had my vote but now, if we get the chance again I won't vote for Hillary..

[MaineDem]

13. I'm sorry, Senator, there was nothing FAIR about the Michigan primary

Not one damn thing. And, frankly, I'm annoyed at your insistence that there is. You're making it very difficult for me to support you.

How can a primary with only four (only one top tier) candidates on it be considered valid? Beside the fact that it was out of compliance with DNC Rules.

Sorry, Senator, you really should give up on this.

[Barack_America]

14. More Republicans than Democrats voted in Michigan and Florida...

Which is something that we haven't seen in virtually any other primaries (even in the reddest of states).

So clearly not all Democrats in those states took those primaries seriously. And yes, that did affect the outcomes.

[redqueen]

15. "The results of those primaries were fair and they should be honored,"

:wtf:

Who else was on the MI ballot again?



I can't frickin believe this... what the... :banghead:

[MaineDem]

20. Results of Michigan

Clinton 328,151 55% 0
Uncommitted 237,762 40% 0
Kucinich 21,708 4% 0
Dodd 3,853 1% 0
Gravel 2,363 0% 0

[NYDem Observer]

49. I love how she claims MI among the states she won

[BlueIdaho]

21. If...

this is an exact and accurate quote its insane. Its this kind of hyperbolic speech that makes her ill suited to lead a nation.

This is Alice through the looking glass stuff - not leader of the free world stuff.

[DJ13]

16. Now imagine someone (outside of Bush) this stubborn in the WH

Never admitting a mistake, no allowances for negotiation, no ability to see the difference between right and wrong.

We really dont need another President with those attributes.

[madfloridian]

17. Any doubts now? Anyone? What this is all about? Any doubts?

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1884

[AtomicKitten]

29. thank you for getting out ahead of this, mf

:thumbsup:

[madfloridian]

36. I was living it all the way. I lost friends.

That's the worst part. Some are believing now...some are not.

It is becoming very clear now, and people will just have to make their own decisions about what is happening to our party.

:hi:

[Vinca]

If we're going to just give her the nomination, there was really no

reason to have a Democratic primary season. Would Hillary be so hot to seat Michigan if Obama's name was on the ballot and hers wasn't?

[JerseygirlCT]

19. The results- particularly MI - were not in the least fair!

Who the heck is buying this crap?

[high density]

48. I guess she has to keep saying crazy things like this

or else nobody is going to contribute money to her campaign.

[skipos]

23. Clinton: trick Michigan voters

1. tell the voters they won't get any delegates
2. have the faux election
3. tell the voters they are now getting delegates based on the faux election

This MI voters says NO WAY.

[TexasLady]

28. well put

I say no way, too!

[johnnydrama]

50. you forgot

2a. Only I care about the voters of Michigan.

[Bigleaf]

24. How the Party Leadership let's her go on with these outrageous statements is

beyond me. It's time to get the hook out. She is blatantly fucking us over. Anyone got a muzzle? A smelly old sock. Stuff it in her mouth. What fucking party does she belong to?

[backscatter712]

26. Hillary wants all the delegates from Michigan's Soviet style election

where she's the only one on the ballot.

That's the only way she can win - Soviet style.

[DefenseLawyer]

27. Michigan was fair

Got it. That's pretty much all you need to know about Mrs. Clinton's world view.

[NYDem Observer]

30. I changed the title

Although it should read, Clinton: has officially lost her mind

[David Zephyr]

31. Welcome to the DU, NYDem Observer

:hi:

And of course, I agree with you. She "won" a primary that she should not have participated in, broke the party's rules, and her "win" was without Obama's name even on the ballot.

How Clintonian is that?

[NYDem Observer]

46. Thanks

Lurker for 4+ years, figured it was time I join the party :-)

[theboss]

32. Who is "Uncommited" going to endorse?

Those delegates are going to be important in a tight race. 60 Minutes needs to interview Uncommited.

[Debi]

33. Since Hillary won Michigan Uncommitted should go to her also

:bounce:



:crazy:

[K Gardner]

34. I agree, Debi. Hillary has convinced me with her Integrity.. ALL delegates should go to her ! I'm

so glad I've seen the HillLight !

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

35. No matter... A "re-do" would be unfair

A one-party "re-do"? Every repub in the state will come to vote for whoever Rush endorses.

I don't see much of a "fair" outcome on any re-do.

Dean should just stick to his guns, deny MI delegates (including Supers).

[anonymous171]

38. She never was good at math...

Or I guess, playing fair.

[truebrit71]

39. Fair = No other candidates on the ballot? On what fucking planet?

Hillary-World?

Lady, give it up...you are getting more and more pathetic and desperate with every passing day...

[Independent-Voter]

40. Veruca and her Klan have been on a roll the last few days!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. Has Hillary she no shame? She's in it to win it, that's for sure.

[high density]

43. Maybe she can run in the general election on a ballot that says McCain vs. None of the Above

I wonder how fair she would think that is.

[cooolandrew]

44. HRC only ran against undecided and DK so officially they have to decide.

[hogwyld]

45. So, when does the party officially change names

From the Democratic party to the Clintonian party?