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sorrybushisfromtexas Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:08 AM
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Antiwar Voters
You can say what you want to about issues. Yes, the economy is huge. Universal medical care must be addressed. As an educator of 29 years, No Child Left Behind, has has not done anything to help with educational gaps. To me, however, the vote to take us to war, the vote to give Bush a free hand, the vote to put the terrorist in Irag (Al Queda was not a force there before our invasion), the vote that has left thousands of American dead, tens of thousand greviously wounded, the vote to put us in an unwinnable war, is the real reason to vote for Barack. I was an active protestor in the 60's, 90's in Desert Storm, and in this war in the 21st century, causes me to vote for Obama. No, he will not be able to get us out as quickly, as we went in. I pray that he can, but on this fundamental question of right or wrong, he has been right from the first. We should not be in this war. Vote Obama. If you are were and are against this war, vote Obama. This war where our nation has lost its idenity and its friends abroad, vote Obama. He won by 94,000 tonight, vote Obama. Don't split our party any farther, vote Obama. Do you want another 4 years of Bush politics,quit fighting among ourselves, vote Obama. The math will not add up to a Clinton victory, vote Obama
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:13 AM
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1. It comes down to what Nader said after the 2004 defeat.
Yes he's an asshole, but he made a really good point in his critique of having run Kerry and lost: What did we stand for in our defeat? What did we announce that 45% of Americans feel strongly about? Nothing. Kerry wasn't against the war, he wasn't strong on any message so our defeat sent no message.

After he said it, I realized he was right. You have to vote your conscience, so even in defeat, you can let the word know what 45% of Americans care about. If its the war, vote your conscience. If its having a woman president, vote your conscience. But we have to stand for something.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 03:41 AM
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2. The War In Iraq Is One Of The Main Reasons Obama Will Beat McSame Soundly...
70% of Americans are against the war, and Obama will be the only one that can challenge him on the judgement of having gone to war in the first place and the false argument of "pulling out is losing".
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 03:51 AM
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3. He won't be perfect but with so many behind him he'll be pushed more liberal...
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 03:54 AM by cooolandrew
FDR came to power very moderate but with the huge will for change he becamemore liberall. Link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSABNGp8EQ

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