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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:15 PM
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If Obama wins the nomination, how is he going to win over the Clinton supporters?
Because I know alot of Clinton supporters that do not like Obama at all.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:16 PM
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1. I think we all take a look at the horror of a McCain White House and
we throw together behind our ticket.

That's the plan I'm hoping for.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:20 PM
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9. I don't see a lot of Clinton voters "getting behind" Obama -but reasonable % will vote O
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:42 AM
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69. papau, we have to get these Republicans out of the Oval Office.
I honestly think the urgency of that will kick in.


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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:26 PM
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29. Oh things like a draft for our daughters as well as our sons, Iran, more of McBush trash.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:17 PM
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2. I'm not worried..hilary's already endorsed
mccain..hope ya'll are happy.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:17 PM
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3. does there need to be a counterpart to every thread?
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:18 PM
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5. Yeah, we're fair and balanced in these parts
:rofl:
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:20 PM
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8. DU is reminding me of Fox News alot these days.
I sure hear alot of rightwing talking points used against the Clintons around here.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:22 PM
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17. Faux News would be a step up for this place.
I think DU has become the extension campus of Freak Republic.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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19. Funny but Hillary says Fox has been more fair to her than MSNBC and also wanted a debate on FOX
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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21. Really I thought it was hillary that likes the right wing..mc cain comes
to mind..
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:42 PM
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38. Why -- did they endorse McCain too?
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Suzie57 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:39 PM
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58. Like threatening not to vote for our parties candidate?
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:18 PM
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4. The same way Hillary will win over Obama supporters if she's the nominee?
:shrug:
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:20 AM
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65. agreed
This is getting ridiculous.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:19 PM
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6. The sleep deprivation and repetitious chanting will bring them around. n/t
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:19 PM
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7. No Idea
I don't personally know ANY Clinton supporters - seriously not one in real life.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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10. Neither do I.
Amazing isn't it, coming from a blue state?
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:24 PM
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23. Currently
I live in Toronto - but before this I lived in Kansas (which amazed me and went for Obama) and California

I'm officially a dual citizen (250,000 of us in Ontario) - but no one, not the Americans I know here, or the people I know from Kansas and Cali are for Hillary.

None of the ones that Can't vote either (the Canadians I know here) - can't find a single one that likes Hillary.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:44 PM
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39. I'm in IL and I should make a correction.
My MIL in MO was for HRC, but not for the reasons she should be. They're solid Dems, but - well, I think she just preferred voting for someone white. FIL voted Obama.
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Suzie57 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:44 PM
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59. I'm in Southern Illinois
My husband is a Laborer and my son is a Carpenter, they both voted for Obama. Some of the older guys they work with didn't vote for Obama because he is black, they will vote for him as the Democratic nominee though.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:17 AM
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75. I live in Kansas and am active in my local county party
And I know ONE woman supporting Hillary.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:52 PM
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95. I know one Obama supporter in real life.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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13. Ah, the privacy of the voting booth.

--watch out for the quiet ones!
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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28. Only if they are people who
are willing to openly advocate for Obama, donate money, wear pins etc., but then vote for Hillary.
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:22 PM
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16. Interesting, because I know alot of Clinton supporters but very few Obama supporters.
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jlpohio69 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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26. Same here....I'm from Ohio and know very few Obama supporters...
but know many who support Hillary.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:50 PM
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62. Same here.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:30 AM
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66. I only know one Obama supporter.
Everyone else I know is for Clinton.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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11. Free Donuts?
I like the ones with chocolate all around :beer:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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12. Unless Hill runs as an independent, I don't see the problem.
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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20. huh? How does that help Obama win over Clinton supporters?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:23 PM
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53. Are you talking about Hill's Democratic supporters or her Republican ones?
I figure that Democrats will vote for the Democrat.

I know there are a few women who rabidly support Clinton based on her having a vagina. I suppose Obama could get a sex change operation in an attempt to win them over, but I wouldn't suggest that would be either smart or effective.

She also probably has some supporters who would never vote for a person of color. I suppose he could bleach his skin, but again, I wouldn't recommend that.

It's impossible to please everyone, so like I said, I'm not nearly as worried or think it's a problem as you do.

Obama is winning the popular vote, both in the big blue states as well as accross the board. He has won the most states by far, has
a very commanding lead in delegates.

I'm sure that after Clinton concedes he will reach out to her voters and ask for there support. And the vast majority will be happy to give it to him. He is a Democrat after all and so are they.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:54 PM
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96. I do believe you are living in fantasy land.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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14. Making Hillary the VP.
I don't think he will get enough superdelegates to vote for him if he doesn't.

I think that is what they are waiting for.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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15. Maybe they like mc cain better....and then they might have hillary
for vice president....prays answered..
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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18. How do like the supremes?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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22. Thumbscrews and irons!
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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27. Funny but that maybe what it will take.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:24 PM
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24. Since she has already endorsed John McCain, it will be up to her individual supporters.
They can vote for McCain's perpetual wars, the continued global corporatist takeover of our civil rights and lives, the continued war on science and the planet, and they can vote for McCain's finishing off Bush's stacking the Supreme Court for a full generation if they wish.

I'm OK with some her supporters voting for John McCain instead of Obama because if they make that choice, that hideous choice, then they never were Democrats to begin with.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:24 PM
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25. With great care,
I hope.
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:27 PM
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30. Well, assuming Clinton doesn't pull a "Liebermann"....
...and gets behind the nominee, I'm sure her followers will come around. Same if Clinton wins the nomination. All this hand-wringing over party unity is just to make the race look like it might be competitive in November.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:28 PM
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31. For this one, he cannot.
He blew that chance when he praised Reagan, got in bed with militant anti-gay bigots in SC*, and bashed liberalism. He cannot win me over now. Period. I will NEVER trust him.

*I know this area of the country, because I live here. I know what those "Ex-gay" people are like. They rape lesbians and they are violent thugs toward gay men, not to mention the fact that what they stand for is spiritual abuse. Anyone who would agree with doing all that stuff to someone is too vile for any forgiveness from me. EVER. I will NEVER forget getting raped by that bunch nor will I EVER forgive Obama for siding with them.

So, for this Democrat, there is NO WAY I will support him.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:19 PM
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50. So, what is McCain's record on gay rights?
"Sen. John McCain said Thursday that he supports an initiative that would change Arizona's Constitution to ban gay marriages and deny government benefits to unmarried couples.

The Republican senator became the most prominent Arizonan to add his voice to what has become a flurry of measures competing for a place on the state's Nov. 7, 2006, ballot"

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/...

So...am I hearing you correctly....you would not prevent McCain from being president even though Obama's record on gay rights is better than McCain's? Put another way, you see some problems with obama on gay rights so your reaction is to act in such as way as someone even worse is going to win? Good luck with that one!

Come on! Be friggin real!
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:30 PM
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32. If Clinton wins the nomination, how is she going to win over the Obama supporters?
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:31 PM
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33. I guess Hillary supporters will just have to look
at the remaining choices and decide who they want answering that phone at 3 a.m.

see..that argument never worked on me because Hillary Clinton is one of the last people in the world that I would want to take that call.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:33 PM
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34. I don't think it will be a problem. I'm a weird voter. I happen to think
Hillary would be the best President but I voted for Obama because I think the Nedia would crush Hillary in the run up to the election. Whoever wins the Dem nomination, I will support because the worst thing that can happen to our country is to have another Pub President! I think MOST voters will feel the same.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:34 PM
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35. 2 Words: SUPREME COURT
The thought of McCain getting to appoint another neocon to the court should scare them straight!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:35 PM
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36. he needs to convince everyone WHO THE REAL ENEMY IS
make America understand what CONTINUED REPUKE RULE REALLY MEANS
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:36 PM
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37. He might want to start...
...by winning over some of us undecideds. So far, I don't like what I see from Obama. Seems to be a rather typical politician. I like what I see from his supporters even less. In fact, so much so that I'm starting to think that picking Obama would be a positively bad idea.
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istopforcookies Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:48 PM
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43. Who are the Real Enemy?
Women, lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, and transgendered.

:cheer:

I'm still voting for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Go Senator Clinton Go!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:44 PM
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40. The issue goes both ways...
but having half of our voting base holding their noses at the polls is not unusual.
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newfie4 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:45 PM
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41. Not this one, I'm never voting for Obama
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 10:48 PM by newfie4
Writing in Hillary
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:23 PM
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52. Same here. n/t
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usrbs Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:54 AM
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80. As a Hillary supporter, that's stupid
I dislike Obama too, but I'm a Dem.
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newfie4 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:57 AM
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82. Obama has hijacked the party, he's created his own wing
I won't vote for a candidate like that. Somebody who just appears out of nowhere with an army of rich hipsters, and has the media cram him down out throat. empty candidate, empty suit.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:47 PM
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42. By the time she finally drops out, her supporters will be as sick of her as we are.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:56 PM
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45. I doubt that! Maybe the problem is you obama folks are finally
seeing this guy as we hrc supporters have for the longest. I know and I speak for myself this guy obama is maybe a step above a reprobate and when a guy who sells himself as "wholesome" and engages in the race baiting and playing the race card as he and his staff and from a few willing whoremedia people this guy is no good.

Obama knowing damn well that neither Bill or Hillary Clinton were bigots or racists and obama sat back and watched all this play out without saying a word during January and prior to South Carolina. There was no need for either Clinton to play the race card. They had there percentage of the black community that supported them, but Who gained power by splitting the party and getting Democrats to fight Democrats? Very simple Barack Obama!


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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:59 PM
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97. I like your way of thinking BenDavid. yes I do.
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readytoblowagasket Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:53 PM
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44. um, he won't
He seems to be more interested in support from Republicans and independents than from Dems, so good luck with that, Barack!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:00 PM
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46. Beatings
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:00 PM
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47. I Don't Think Most Hillary Supporters Have Given Him A
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 11:01 PM by lligrd
chance. Once they are forced to, I think they will come to like him as much as I am. He wasn't my first choice but he keeps growing on me. And the choice between McCain and Obama is really no contest. Obama is intelligent, articulate and maintains self control. I have been rather impressed.

Edited to add:

If that fails, we can always give him a vagina. That should do the trick.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:18 PM
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48. Oops, I Really Killed That Thread nt
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:25 PM
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55. NO Sale. I looked at Obama and did not like what I saw.
Calling the Clinton's "racists" crossed the line and I won't support him, even if it means a McCain Presidency.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:29 PM
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57. Yes, Yes, Yes We Already Know You Are Not A True
Democrat. Please quit reminding us and just go sign up for the losing McCain team and his 100 year war. Maybe you could volunteer to go help out over in Iraq.
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eggman67 Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:31 AM
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67. I'm with you
I'll be staying home or writing in, but he'll never get my vote.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:55 AM
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71. If Howard Dean forces Hillary out because of his bias
I hope she joins the Green Party. As we know the Green party is well know as the most progressive party. I do believe there is a lady that has signed on with the Green Party and she and Hillary will run together in November and will most likely defeat McCain and Obama.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:21 AM
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78. Since Hillary is hardly progressive, your theory is nothing more than a fairy tale
:rofl:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:20 AM
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76. Wow
Just wow.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:25 PM
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86. "Once They Are FORCED To"? Nobody's FORCING Me To Do Anything, Got That?
We do live in a democracy after all.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:19 PM
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49. All of the Hillary supporters that I know will support
the Democratic nominee.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:22 PM
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51. He won't. I won't vote for him, even if it means President McCAin...
I won't vote for a man who has called the Clinton's "racists". A good percentage of Clinton's supporters will NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:25 PM
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54. geez
when did he say that? or did you just make it up?
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:26 PM
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56. ...
:eyes:
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:44 PM
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60. camps
That's what the Halliburton detention camps are for.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:45 PM
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61. Clinton supporters will vote for McCain.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:28 PM
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88. And You Know This, How?
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:08 AM
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63. I think he is a smarmy huckster that would be able to play the lead in "The Rainmaker,
his wife an epic petulant brat that constantly sees "racism". He also is an overreaching, over his head promise maker that will be one of the greatest dissapointments of the early 21st Century as he muddles through a spectacular pile of rubble of the economy, debt, and not getting us out of Iraq or anywhere else for that matter that would make him look bad.

That's if he wins, and that's a big IF.

But again I will vote for him as our candidate. No matter what. You have the vote, I don't have to like him.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:19 AM
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64. No clue; understood; and vice versa.
And the more distortions and hate that Howard Wolfson orchestrates, the tougher the healing will be.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:45 AM
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68. He'll probably have to start talking policy, which in my case is one...
of the big reasons i don't like him, b/c he doesn't talk policy. If he wins the nom, he'll change strategy, he'll already have in followers in toe with 'hope/change' and he'll move on to policy talk to woo the pragmatic.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:47 AM
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70. It goes both ways. Each person will have to decide on there own
I would have supported whoever the Democratic nominee was two weeks ago, but not anymore

When Hillary came out and said she and mccain were qualified to be president, and Obama was just a speech, and then continued to repeat it, constantly bringing mccain into the picture, I will NOT vote for hillary or mccain in the general election if they are the choices

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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:56 AM
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72. By not being McSame
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:03 AM
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73. I'll tell you how; Promis to make solving healthcare & the economic issues 'first day' Priority
'cuz he talks all inspiration & very little about getting help to the lower middle class. We need help now, not inspiration - actual healthcare reform as a first week in office type of priority. And this $2,500 savings won't be enough to off set the 30% rise in health care costs per year. I sincerely hope he can actually help people who are paying a third of their income for health care costs.

At this point the only reason I can see for voting for obama is because of the supreme court appointments.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:12 AM
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74. Three Words: Reunite The Supremes
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 11:13 AM by ronnykmarshall
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:20 AM
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77. Why should this even be an issue. We're running against JOHN MCCAIN for goodness sakes
Wake up people.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:24 AM
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79. .......................
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:41 PM
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92. I think Clinton needs to rethink her campaign and start
Exposing Obama for the racism he keeps plugging into his campaign. For the folks who haven't been watching the race as close as others I think one of her themes should be Obama is accusing Hillary and Bill of racism every other day because it's true.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:56 AM
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81. Clintonites at DU also want to see BushInc protected into the next decade, so I think
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 11:57 AM by blm
their opinion is bizarre and anti-Dem in the first place.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:27 PM
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87. I Know What I Want. Please Don't Speak For Me, And Since You're An Obama Follower,
you can't speak for ANY Clinton supporters.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:35 PM
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90. I'm not an Obama FOLLOWER. I am an open government Democrat and vote accordingly.
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 12:37 PM by blm
I follow MY priorities.

Had more Dem lawmakers and Dem voters made open government a priority we wouldn't have HAD a Bush2 or 9-11 would we?

BTW, I wouldn't classify you as a Clintonite - you came late to her candidacy and showed conflict in that decision. It's the loyalists who ignore the decades of protection for BushInc that I call Clintonites.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:43 PM
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93. Hmm, Good Points.
I'm sorry for my label. I admit, I did mean to be snarky. I will be more careful in the future. You seem like a supporter of Obama & not a kool-aid drinker, if you will. It sure would be nice if more people in this forum would make more of an effort to promote their candidate instead of drag down the other candidate.

Peace (I hope):

DIng
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:58 AM
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83. Vote for me OR vote for the crazy old fart, your choice
seams simple enough
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:03 PM
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84. I'll vote for Obama and I neither like nor trust him.
I support Hillary, but almost ANY Dem would be better than McCain/Leiberman.

No, Obama has not and will not "win me over." It's too late for that. But he'll get my vote if he wins the nomination.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:16 PM
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85. I don't like him, and I'm not a Clinton supporter.
He'd rather win over centrist and/or republican voters than win my vote, though, so there's no problem there.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:35 PM
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89. He can continue as he has begun, they can take a deep breath
By being the person he is right now, the candidate he is right now and presenting the alternatives he presents right now. If the contrast between that and John McCain isn't adequate to win the votes of unhappy Clinton supporters than I guess it's just not good enough. I think it will be.

Many years ago I worked my ass off for Eugene McCarthy and got my ass kicked in the streets of Chicago. It soured me on electoral politics for a long time. I look back on that now and shake my head. I hope that others will be wiser than I was so that they won't have to look back and wonder what the heck they were thinking way back then.
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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:35 PM
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91. I don't know. She's turned them all into whining babies with no respect
for democracy or for their own party.

Her naked, vile lust for power has led her to turn this into such a dirty contest that a pig would turn its nose at it.

She's taught her supporters to have no respect for anyone or anything and certainly not for any sort of loyalty.

I am so utterly done with the Clintons.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:45 PM
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94. Do the Clinton supporters who dislike Obama want to live with
John McCain and his ongoing war? Do they want the half senile old coot next to the nuclear switch? Do they give a damn about abortion rights and the next Supreme Court nominee? There have been hurt feelings on both sides, but you've got to consider the bigger picture. If Hillary is the nominee, I don't expect a "gee, I'm sorry, please vote for me" card from her. When this fiasco is over and the votes are counted, we can't sit around and whine, we have to beat the Republicans.
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