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Sat Mar-08-08 10:15 PM
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| If Obama wins the nomination, how is he going to win over the Clinton supporters? |
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Because I know alot of Clinton supporters that do not like Obama at all.
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I think we all take a look at the horror of a McCain White House and |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-08-08 10:16 PM |
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I don't see a lot of Clinton voters "getting behind" Obama -but reasonable % will vote O |
papau |
Mar-08-08 10:20 PM |
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papau, we have to get these Republicans out of the Oval Office. |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-09-08 10:42 AM |
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Oh things like a draft for our daughters as well as our sons, Iran, more of McBush trash. |
caligirl |
Mar-08-08 10:26 PM |
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I'm not worried..hilary's already endorsed |
zidzi |
Mar-08-08 10:17 PM |
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does there need to be a counterpart to every thread? |
angie_love |
Mar-08-08 10:17 PM |
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Yeah, we're fair and balanced in these parts |
Mystery2Me |
Mar-08-08 10:18 PM |
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DU is reminding me of Fox News alot these days. |
Jillian |
Mar-08-08 10:20 PM |
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Faux News would be a step up for this place. |
QC |
Mar-08-08 10:22 PM |
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Funny but Hillary says Fox has been more fair to her than MSNBC and also wanted a debate on FOX |
angie_love |
Mar-08-08 10:23 PM |
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Really I thought it was hillary that likes the right wing..mc cain comes |
movonne |
Mar-08-08 10:23 PM |
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Why -- did they endorse McCain too? |
Yael |
Mar-08-08 10:42 PM |
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Like threatening not to vote for our parties candidate? |
Suzie57 |
Mar-08-08 11:39 PM |
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The same way Hillary will win over Obama supporters if she's the nominee? |
muntrv |
Mar-08-08 10:18 PM |
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agreed |
olkaz |
Mar-09-08 12:20 AM |
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The sleep deprivation and repetitious chanting will bring them around. n/t |
QC |
Mar-08-08 10:19 PM |
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No Idea |
pbca |
Mar-08-08 10:19 PM |
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Neither do I. |
Kittycat |
Mar-08-08 10:21 PM |
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Currently |
pbca |
Mar-08-08 10:24 PM |
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I'm in IL and I should make a correction. |
Kittycat |
Mar-08-08 10:44 PM |
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I'm in Southern Illinois |
Suzie57 |
Mar-08-08 11:44 PM |
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I live in Kansas and am active in my local county party |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-08 11:17 AM |
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I know one Obama supporter in real life. |
Mags |
Mar-09-08 12:52 PM |
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Ah, the privacy of the voting booth. |
JohnnyLib2 |
Mar-08-08 10:21 PM |
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Only if they are people who |
pbca |
Mar-08-08 10:25 PM |
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Interesting, because I know alot of Clinton supporters but very few Obama supporters. |
Jillian |
Mar-08-08 10:22 PM |
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Same here....I'm from Ohio and know very few Obama supporters... |
jlpohio69 |
Mar-08-08 10:25 PM |
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Same here. |
emilyg |
Mar-08-08 11:50 PM |
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I only know one Obama supporter. |
nonconformist |
Mar-09-08 12:30 AM |
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Free Donuts? |
stop the bleeding |
Mar-08-08 10:21 PM |
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Unless Hill runs as an independent, I don't see the problem. |
John Q. Citizen |
Mar-08-08 10:21 PM |
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huh? How does that help Obama win over Clinton supporters? |
Jillian |
Mar-08-08 10:23 PM |
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Are you talking about Hill's Democratic supporters or her Republican ones? |
John Q. Citizen |
Mar-08-08 11:23 PM |
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I do believe you are living in fantasy land. |
Mags |
Mar-09-08 12:54 PM |
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Making Hillary the VP. |
Ravy |
Mar-08-08 10:21 PM |
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Maybe they like mc cain better....and then they might have hillary |
movonne |
Mar-08-08 10:21 PM |
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How do like the supremes? |
rwheeler31 |
Mar-08-08 10:23 PM |
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Thumbscrews and irons! |
JVS |
Mar-08-08 10:23 PM |
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Funny but that maybe what it will take. |
Jillian |
Mar-08-08 10:25 PM |
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Since she has already endorsed John McCain, it will be up to her individual supporters. |
David Zephyr |
Mar-08-08 10:24 PM |
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With great care, |
elleng |
Mar-08-08 10:24 PM |
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Well, assuming Clinton doesn't pull a "Liebermann".... |
CarbonDate |
Mar-08-08 10:27 PM |
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For this one, he cannot. |
Jamastiene |
Mar-08-08 10:28 PM |
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So, what is McCain's record on gay rights? |
earthlover |
Mar-08-08 11:19 PM |
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If Clinton wins the nomination, how is she going to win over the Obama supporters? |
keep_it_real |
Mar-08-08 10:30 PM |
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I guess Hillary supporters will just have to look |
pbca |
Mar-08-08 10:31 PM |
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I don't think it will be a problem. I'm a weird voter. I happen to think |
napi21 |
Mar-08-08 10:33 PM |
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2 Words: SUPREME COURT |
PM7nj |
Mar-08-08 10:34 PM |
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he needs to convince everyone WHO THE REAL ENEMY IS |
Skittles |
Mar-08-08 10:35 PM |
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He might want to start... |
Birthmark |
Mar-08-08 10:36 PM |
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Who are the Real Enemy? |
istopforcookies |
Mar-08-08 10:48 PM |
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The issue goes both ways... |
rucky |
Mar-08-08 10:44 PM |
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Not this one, I'm never voting for Obama |
newfie4 |
Mar-08-08 10:45 PM |
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Same here. n/t |
CyberPieHole |
Mar-08-08 11:23 PM |
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As a Hillary supporter, that's stupid |
usrbs |
Mar-09-08 11:54 AM |
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Obama has hijacked the party, he's created his own wing |
newfie4 |
Mar-09-08 11:57 AM |
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By the time she finally drops out, her supporters will be as sick of her as we are. |
Diane R |
Mar-08-08 10:47 PM |
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I doubt that! Maybe the problem is you obama folks are finally |
BenDavid |
Mar-08-08 10:56 PM |
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I like your way of thinking BenDavid. yes I do. |
Mags |
Mar-09-08 12:59 PM |
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um, he won't |
readytoblowagasket |
Mar-08-08 10:53 PM |
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Beatings |
donheld |
Mar-08-08 11:00 PM |
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I Don't Think Most Hillary Supporters Have Given Him A |
lligrd |
Mar-08-08 11:00 PM |
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Oops, I Really Killed That Thread nt |
lligrd |
Mar-08-08 11:18 PM |
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NO Sale. I looked at Obama and did not like what I saw. |
CyberPieHole |
Mar-08-08 11:25 PM |
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Yes, Yes, Yes We Already Know You Are Not A True |
lligrd |
Mar-08-08 11:29 PM |
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I'm with you |
eggman67 |
Mar-09-08 12:31 AM |
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If Howard Dean forces Hillary out because of his bias |
UALRBSofL |
Mar-09-08 10:55 AM |
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Since Hillary is hardly progressive, your theory is nothing more than a fairy tale |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-08 11:21 AM |
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Wow |
proud2Blib |
Mar-09-08 11:20 AM |
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"Once They Are FORCED To"? Nobody's FORCING Me To Do Anything, Got That? |
Dinger |
Mar-09-08 12:25 PM |
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All of the Hillary supporters that I know will support |
mourningdove92 |
Mar-08-08 11:19 PM |
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He won't. I won't vote for him, even if it means President McCAin... |
CyberPieHole |
Mar-08-08 11:22 PM |
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geez |
undeterred |
Mar-08-08 11:25 PM |
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... |
CyberPieHole |
Mar-08-08 11:26 PM |
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camps |
enid602 |
Mar-08-08 11:44 PM |
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Clinton supporters will vote for McCain. |
NormaR |
Mar-08-08 11:45 PM |
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And You Know This, How? |
Dinger |
Mar-09-08 12:28 PM |
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I think he is a smarmy huckster that would be able to play the lead in "The Rainmaker, |
Neshanic |
Mar-09-08 12:08 AM |
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No clue; understood; and vice versa. |
krkaufman |
Mar-09-08 12:19 AM |
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He'll probably have to start talking policy, which in my case is one... |
annie1 |
Mar-09-08 12:45 AM |
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It goes both ways. Each person will have to decide on there own |
still_one |
Mar-09-08 10:47 AM |
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By not being McSame |
rosebud57 |
Mar-09-08 10:56 AM |
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I'll tell you how; Promis to make solving healthcare & the economic issues 'first day' Priority |
adapa |
Mar-09-08 11:03 AM |
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Three Words: Reunite The Supremes |
ronnykmarshall |
Mar-09-08 11:12 AM |
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Why should this even be an issue. We're running against JOHN MCCAIN for goodness sakes |
BrentTaylor |
Mar-09-08 11:20 AM |
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....................... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Mar-09-08 11:24 AM |
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I think Clinton needs to rethink her campaign and start |
UALRBSofL |
Mar-09-08 12:41 PM |
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Clintonites at DU also want to see BushInc protected into the next decade, so I think |
blm |
Mar-09-08 11:56 AM |
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I Know What I Want. Please Don't Speak For Me, And Since You're An Obama Follower, |
Dinger |
Mar-09-08 12:27 PM |
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I'm not an Obama FOLLOWER. I am an open government Democrat and vote accordingly. |
blm |
Mar-09-08 12:35 PM |
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Hmm, Good Points. |
Dinger |
Mar-09-08 12:43 PM |
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Vote for me OR vote for the crazy old fart, your choice |
krawhitham |
Mar-09-08 11:58 AM |
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I'll vote for Obama and I neither like nor trust him. |
NastyRiffraff |
Mar-09-08 12:03 PM |
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I don't like him, and I'm not a Clinton supporter. |
LWolf |
Mar-09-08 12:16 PM |
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He can continue as he has begun, they can take a deep breath |
RichardRay |
Mar-09-08 12:35 PM |
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I don't know. She's turned them all into whining babies with no respect |
jsmirman |
Mar-09-08 12:35 PM |
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Do the Clinton supporters who dislike Obama want to live with |
Vinca |
Mar-09-08 12:45 PM |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:16 PM
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| 1. I think we all take a look at the horror of a McCain White House and |
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we throw together behind our ticket.
That's the plan I'm hoping for.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:20 PM
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| 9. I don't see a lot of Clinton voters "getting behind" Obama -but reasonable % will vote O |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:42 AM
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| 69. papau, we have to get these Republicans out of the Oval Office. |
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I honestly think the urgency of that will kick in.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:26 PM
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| 29. Oh things like a draft for our daughters as well as our sons, Iran, more of McBush trash. |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:17 PM
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| 2. I'm not worried..hilary's already endorsed |
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mccain..hope ya'll are happy.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:17 PM
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| 3. does there need to be a counterpart to every thread? |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:18 PM
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| 5. Yeah, we're fair and balanced in these parts |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:20 PM
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| 8. DU is reminding me of Fox News alot these days. |
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I sure hear alot of rightwing talking points used against the Clintons around here.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:22 PM
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| 17. Faux News would be a step up for this place. |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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| 19. Funny but Hillary says Fox has been more fair to her than MSNBC and also wanted a debate on FOX |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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| 21. Really I thought it was hillary that likes the right wing..mc cain comes |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:42 PM
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| 38. Why -- did they endorse McCain too? |
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:39 PM
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| 58. Like threatening not to vote for our parties candidate? |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:18 PM
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| 4. The same way Hillary will win over Obama supporters if she's the nominee? |
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:20 AM
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This is getting ridiculous.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:19 PM
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| 6. The sleep deprivation and repetitious chanting will bring them around. n/t |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:19 PM
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I don't personally know ANY Clinton supporters - seriously not one in real life.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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Amazing isn't it, coming from a blue state?
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:24 PM
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I live in Toronto - but before this I lived in Kansas (which amazed me and went for Obama) and California
I'm officially a dual citizen (250,000 of us in Ontario) - but no one, not the Americans I know here, or the people I know from Kansas and Cali are for Hillary.
None of the ones that Can't vote either (the Canadians I know here) - can't find a single one that likes Hillary.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:44 PM
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| 39. I'm in IL and I should make a correction. |
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My MIL in MO was for HRC, but not for the reasons she should be. They're solid Dems, but - well, I think she just preferred voting for someone white. FIL voted Obama.
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:44 PM
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| 59. I'm in Southern Illinois |
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My husband is a Laborer and my son is a Carpenter, they both voted for Obama. Some of the older guys they work with didn't vote for Obama because he is black, they will vote for him as the Democratic nominee though.
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:17 AM
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| 75. I live in Kansas and am active in my local county party |
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And I know ONE woman supporting Hillary.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:52 PM
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| 95. I know one Obama supporter in real life. |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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| 13. Ah, the privacy of the voting booth. |
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--watch out for the quiet ones!
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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are willing to openly advocate for Obama, donate money, wear pins etc., but then vote for Hillary.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:22 PM
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| 16. Interesting, because I know alot of Clinton supporters but very few Obama supporters. |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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| 26. Same here....I'm from Ohio and know very few Obama supporters... |
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but know many who support Hillary.
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:50 PM
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:30 AM
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| 66. I only know one Obama supporter. |
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Everyone else I know is for Clinton.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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I like the ones with chocolate all around 
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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| 12. Unless Hill runs as an independent, I don't see the problem. |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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| 20. huh? How does that help Obama win over Clinton supporters? |
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:23 PM
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| 53. Are you talking about Hill's Democratic supporters or her Republican ones? |
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I figure that Democrats will vote for the Democrat.
I know there are a few women who rabidly support Clinton based on her having a vagina. I suppose Obama could get a sex change operation in an attempt to win them over, but I wouldn't suggest that would be either smart or effective.
She also probably has some supporters who would never vote for a person of color. I suppose he could bleach his skin, but again, I wouldn't recommend that.
It's impossible to please everyone, so like I said, I'm not nearly as worried or think it's a problem as you do.
Obama is winning the popular vote, both in the big blue states as well as accross the board. He has won the most states by far, has a very commanding lead in delegates.
I'm sure that after Clinton concedes he will reach out to her voters and ask for there support. And the vast majority will be happy to give it to him. He is a Democrat after all and so are they.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:54 PM
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| 96. I do believe you are living in fantasy land. |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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| 14. Making Hillary the VP. |
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I don't think he will get enough superdelegates to vote for him if he doesn't.
I think that is what they are waiting for.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:21 PM
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| 15. Maybe they like mc cain better....and then they might have hillary |
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for vice president....prays answered..
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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| 18. How do like the supremes? |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:23 PM
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| 22. Thumbscrews and irons! |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:25 PM
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| 27. Funny but that maybe what it will take. |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:24 PM
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| 24. Since she has already endorsed John McCain, it will be up to her individual supporters. |
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They can vote for McCain's perpetual wars, the continued global corporatist takeover of our civil rights and lives, the continued war on science and the planet, and they can vote for McCain's finishing off Bush's stacking the Supreme Court for a full generation if they wish.
I'm OK with some her supporters voting for John McCain instead of Obama because if they make that choice, that hideous choice, then they never were Democrats to begin with.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:27 PM
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| 30. Well, assuming Clinton doesn't pull a "Liebermann".... |
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...and gets behind the nominee, I'm sure her followers will come around. Same if Clinton wins the nomination. All this hand-wringing over party unity is just to make the race look like it might be competitive in November.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:28 PM
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| 31. For this one, he cannot. |
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He blew that chance when he praised Reagan, got in bed with militant anti-gay bigots in SC*, and bashed liberalism. He cannot win me over now. Period. I will NEVER trust him.
*I know this area of the country, because I live here. I know what those "Ex-gay" people are like. They rape lesbians and they are violent thugs toward gay men, not to mention the fact that what they stand for is spiritual abuse. Anyone who would agree with doing all that stuff to someone is too vile for any forgiveness from me. EVER. I will NEVER forget getting raped by that bunch nor will I EVER forgive Obama for siding with them.
So, for this Democrat, there is NO WAY I will support him.
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:19 PM
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| 50. So, what is McCain's record on gay rights? |
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"Sen. John McCain said Thursday that he supports an initiative that would change Arizona's Constitution to ban gay marriages and deny government benefits to unmarried couples. The Republican senator became the most prominent Arizonan to add his voice to what has become a flurry of measures competing for a place on the state's Nov. 7, 2006, ballot" http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/... So...am I hearing you correctly....you would not prevent McCain from being president even though Obama's record on gay rights is better than McCain's? Put another way, you see some problems with obama on gay rights so your reaction is to act in such as way as someone even worse is going to win? Good luck with that one! Come on! Be friggin real!
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:30 PM
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| 32. If Clinton wins the nomination, how is she going to win over the Obama supporters? |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:31 PM
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| 33. I guess Hillary supporters will just have to look |
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at the remaining choices and decide who they want answering that phone at 3 a.m.
see..that argument never worked on me because Hillary Clinton is one of the last people in the world that I would want to take that call.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:33 PM
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| 34. I don't think it will be a problem. I'm a weird voter. I happen to think |
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Hillary would be the best President but I voted for Obama because I think the Nedia would crush Hillary in the run up to the election. Whoever wins the Dem nomination, I will support because the worst thing that can happen to our country is to have another Pub President! I think MOST voters will feel the same.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:34 PM
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| 35. 2 Words: SUPREME COURT |
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The thought of McCain getting to appoint another neocon to the court should scare them straight!
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:35 PM
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| 36. he needs to convince everyone WHO THE REAL ENEMY IS |
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make America understand what CONTINUED REPUKE RULE REALLY MEANS
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:36 PM
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| 37. He might want to start... |
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...by winning over some of us undecideds. So far, I don't like what I see from Obama. Seems to be a rather typical politician. I like what I see from his supporters even less. In fact, so much so that I'm starting to think that picking Obama would be a positively bad idea.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:48 PM
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| 43. Who are the Real Enemy? |
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Women, lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, and transgendered.
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I'm still voting for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Go Senator Clinton Go!
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:44 PM
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| 40. The issue goes both ways... |
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but having half of our voting base holding their noses at the polls is not unusual.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:45 PM
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| 41. Not this one, I'm never voting for Obama |
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Writing in Hillary
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:23 PM
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:54 AM
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| 80. As a Hillary supporter, that's stupid |
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I dislike Obama too, but I'm a Dem.
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:57 AM
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| 82. Obama has hijacked the party, he's created his own wing |
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I won't vote for a candidate like that. Somebody who just appears out of nowhere with an army of rich hipsters, and has the media cram him down out throat. empty candidate, empty suit.
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:47 PM
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| 42. By the time she finally drops out, her supporters will be as sick of her as we are. |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:56 PM
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| 45. I doubt that! Maybe the problem is you obama folks are finally |
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seeing this guy as we hrc supporters have for the longest. I know and I speak for myself this guy obama is maybe a step above a reprobate and when a guy who sells himself as "wholesome" and engages in the race baiting and playing the race card as he and his staff and from a few willing whoremedia people this guy is no good.
Obama knowing damn well that neither Bill or Hillary Clinton were bigots or racists and obama sat back and watched all this play out without saying a word during January and prior to South Carolina. There was no need for either Clinton to play the race card. They had there percentage of the black community that supported them, but Who gained power by splitting the party and getting Democrats to fight Democrats? Very simple Barack Obama!
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:59 PM
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| 97. I like your way of thinking BenDavid. yes I do. |
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Sat Mar-08-08 10:53 PM
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He seems to be more interested in support from Republicans and independents than from Dems, so good luck with that, Barack!
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:00 PM
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| 47. I Don't Think Most Hillary Supporters Have Given Him A |
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chance. Once they are forced to, I think they will come to like him as much as I am. He wasn't my first choice but he keeps growing on me. And the choice between McCain and Obama is really no contest. Obama is intelligent, articulate and maintains self control. I have been rather impressed.
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If that fails, we can always give him a vagina. That should do the trick.
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:18 PM
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| 48. Oops, I Really Killed That Thread nt |
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:25 PM
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| 55. NO Sale. I looked at Obama and did not like what I saw. |
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Calling the Clinton's "racists" crossed the line and I won't support him, even if it means a McCain Presidency.
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:29 PM
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| 57. Yes, Yes, Yes We Already Know You Are Not A True |
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Democrat. Please quit reminding us and just go sign up for the losing McCain team and his 100 year war. Maybe you could volunteer to go help out over in Iraq.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:31 AM
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I'll be staying home or writing in, but he'll never get my vote.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:55 AM
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| 71. If Howard Dean forces Hillary out because of his bias |
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I hope she joins the Green Party. As we know the Green party is well know as the most progressive party. I do believe there is a lady that has signed on with the Green Party and she and Hillary will run together in November and will most likely defeat McCain and Obama.
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:21 AM
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| 78. Since Hillary is hardly progressive, your theory is nothing more than a fairy tale |
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:20 AM
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:25 PM
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| 86. "Once They Are FORCED To"? Nobody's FORCING Me To Do Anything, Got That? |
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We do live in a democracy after all.
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:19 PM
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| 49. All of the Hillary supporters that I know will support |
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:22 PM
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| 51. He won't. I won't vote for him, even if it means President McCAin... |
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I won't vote for a man who has called the Clinton's "racists". A good percentage of Clinton's supporters will NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA.
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:25 PM
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when did he say that? or did you just make it up?
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:26 PM
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That's what the Halliburton detention camps are for.
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Sat Mar-08-08 11:45 PM
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| 61. Clinton supporters will vote for McCain. |
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:28 PM
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| 88. And You Know This, How? |
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:08 AM
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| 63. I think he is a smarmy huckster that would be able to play the lead in "The Rainmaker, |
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his wife an epic petulant brat that constantly sees "racism". He also is an overreaching, over his head promise maker that will be one of the greatest dissapointments of the early 21st Century as he muddles through a spectacular pile of rubble of the economy, debt, and not getting us out of Iraq or anywhere else for that matter that would make him look bad.
That's if he wins, and that's a big IF.
But again I will vote for him as our candidate. No matter what. You have the vote, I don't have to like him.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:19 AM
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| 64. No clue; understood; and vice versa. |
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And the more distortions and hate that Howard Wolfson orchestrates, the tougher the healing will be.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:45 AM
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| 68. He'll probably have to start talking policy, which in my case is one... |
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of the big reasons i don't like him, b/c he doesn't talk policy. If he wins the nom, he'll change strategy, he'll already have in followers in toe with 'hope/change' and he'll move on to policy talk to woo the pragmatic.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:47 AM
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| 70. It goes both ways. Each person will have to decide on there own |
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I would have supported whoever the Democratic nominee was two weeks ago, but not anymore
When Hillary came out and said she and mccain were qualified to be president, and Obama was just a speech, and then continued to repeat it, constantly bringing mccain into the picture, I will NOT vote for hillary or mccain in the general election if they are the choices
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:03 AM
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| 73. I'll tell you how; Promis to make solving healthcare & the economic issues 'first day' Priority |
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'cuz he talks all inspiration & very little about getting help to the lower middle class. We need help now, not inspiration - actual healthcare reform as a first week in office type of priority. And this $2,500 savings won't be enough to off set the 30% rise in health care costs per year. I sincerely hope he can actually help people who are paying a third of their income for health care costs.
At this point the only reason I can see for voting for obama is because of the supreme court appointments.
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:12 AM
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| 74. Three Words: Reunite The Supremes |
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:20 AM
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| 77. Why should this even be an issue. We're running against JOHN MCCAIN for goodness sakes |
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:24 AM
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| 79. ....................... |
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:41 PM
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| 92. I think Clinton needs to rethink her campaign and start |
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Exposing Obama for the racism he keeps plugging into his campaign. For the folks who haven't been watching the race as close as others I think one of her themes should be Obama is accusing Hillary and Bill of racism every other day because it's true.
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:56 AM
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| 81. Clintonites at DU also want to see BushInc protected into the next decade, so I think |
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their opinion is bizarre and anti-Dem in the first place.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:27 PM
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| 87. I Know What I Want. Please Don't Speak For Me, And Since You're An Obama Follower, |
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you can't speak for ANY Clinton supporters.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:35 PM
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| 90. I'm not an Obama FOLLOWER. I am an open government Democrat and vote accordingly. |
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I follow MY priorities.
Had more Dem lawmakers and Dem voters made open government a priority we wouldn't have HAD a Bush2 or 9-11 would we?
BTW, I wouldn't classify you as a Clintonite - you came late to her candidacy and showed conflict in that decision. It's the loyalists who ignore the decades of protection for BushInc that I call Clintonites.
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I'm sorry for my label. I admit, I did mean to be snarky. I will be more careful in the future. You seem like a supporter of Obama & not a kool-aid drinker, if you will. It sure would be nice if more people in this forum would make more of an effort to promote their candidate instead of drag down the other candidate.
Peace (I hope):
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:58 AM
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| 83. Vote for me OR vote for the crazy old fart, your choice |
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:03 PM
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| 84. I'll vote for Obama and I neither like nor trust him. |
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I support Hillary, but almost ANY Dem would be better than McCain/Leiberman.
No, Obama has not and will not "win me over." It's too late for that. But he'll get my vote if he wins the nomination.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:16 PM
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| 85. I don't like him, and I'm not a Clinton supporter. |
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He'd rather win over centrist and/or republican voters than win my vote, though, so there's no problem there.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:35 PM
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| 89. He can continue as he has begun, they can take a deep breath |
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By being the person he is right now, the candidate he is right now and presenting the alternatives he presents right now. If the contrast between that and John McCain isn't adequate to win the votes of unhappy Clinton supporters than I guess it's just not good enough. I think it will be.
Many years ago I worked my ass off for Eugene McCarthy and got my ass kicked in the streets of Chicago. It soured me on electoral politics for a long time. I look back on that now and shake my head. I hope that others will be wiser than I was so that they won't have to look back and wonder what the heck they were thinking way back then.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:35 PM
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| 91. I don't know. She's turned them all into whining babies with no respect |
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for democracy or for their own party.
Her naked, vile lust for power has led her to turn this into such a dirty contest that a pig would turn its nose at it.
She's taught her supporters to have no respect for anyone or anything and certainly not for any sort of loyalty.
I am so utterly done with the Clintons.
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Sun Mar-09-08 12:45 PM
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| 94. Do the Clinton supporters who dislike Obama want to live with |
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John McCain and his ongoing war? Do they want the half senile old coot next to the nuclear switch? Do they give a damn about abortion rights and the next Supreme Court nominee? There have been hurt feelings on both sides, but you've got to consider the bigger picture. If Hillary is the nominee, I don't expect a "gee, I'm sorry, please vote for me" card from her. When this fiasco is over and the votes are counted, we can't sit around and whine, we have to beat the Republicans.
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