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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:18 PM
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Obama wins WY...but Hillary still picks up Delegates? Obama 7/Clinton 5
Obama wins Wyoming, pads delegate lead

By MEAD GRUVER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 1 minute ago

Clinton, buoyed by big wins in Ohio and Texas last Tuesday, said she faced an uphill fight in Wyoming. Her campaign also holds out little hope for Tuesday's primary in Mississippi, which has a large black population.

Obama had 61 percent, or 5,378 votes, to Clinton's 38 percent, or 3,312 votes, with all 23 Wyoming counties reporting.

Obama won seven delegates and Clinton won five. In the overall race for the nomination, Obama led 1,578-1,468, according to the latest tally by The Associated Press. It will take 2,025 delegates to win the Democratic nomination.

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the Wyoming victory speaks to the candidate's strength in the West, and that Obama is better suited to help down-ticket Democrats even in states that traditionally vote Republican in the general election.

"I think it's evidence that Senator Obama is going to be able to put more states in play because of his strength with independent voters," Plouffe said.

Clinton's campaign took heart in their ability to pick up more delegates.

"We are thrilled with this near-split in delegates and are grateful to the people of Wyoming for their support," said campaign manager Maggie Williams. "Although the Obama campaign predicted victory in Wyoming weeks ago, we worked hard to present Senator Clintons vision to the caucus-goers and we thank them for turning out today."

Both candidates were looking ahead to the bigger prize delegate-rich Pennsylvania on April 22.

From the first caucuses of the day, it became clear the state's Democrats were showing up in large numbers. In 2004, a mere 675 people statewide took part in the caucuses.

In Sweetwater County, more than 500 people crowded into a high school auditorium and another 500 were lined up to get inside.

"I'm worried about where we're going to put them all. But I guess everybody's got the same problem," said Joyce Corcoran, a local party official. "So far we're OK. But man, they keep coming."

Party officials struggled with how to handle the overflow crowds. The start of the Converse County caucus was delayed due to long lines.

In Cheyenne, scores of late arrivers were turned away when party officials stopped allowing people to get in line at 11 a.m. EST. A party worker stood at the end of the line with a sign reading, "End of the line. Caucus rules require the voter registration process to be closed at this time."

State party spokesman Bill Luckett said they were obligated to follow its rules as well as those of the Democratic National Committee regarding caucus procedures.

"Everybody knew the registration began over an hour before the caucus was called to order. We've done everything we could to accommodate people in the long lines," Luckett said.

After initially accepting provisional ballots from about 20 people who remained behind at the caucus site, party officials said they and both campaigns had decided not to count those votes. John Millin, state party chair, said doing so would have been unfair to those who had left after being turned away.

In Casper, home of the state party's headquarters, hundreds were lined up at the site of the Natrona County caucus. The location was a hotel meeting room with a capacity of 500. Some 7,700 registered Democrats live in the county.

"We'll have to put 'em in the grass after a while," said Bob Warburton, a local party official.

About 59,000 registered Democrats are eligible to participate in Wyoming's caucuses.

Only in the last few weeks have the campaigns stepped up their presence in Wyoming, opening offices and calling voters and sending mailers.

Although a win in Wyoming may not persuade many superdelegates, it will be one more prize for the candidates as they make their case for the nomination.

Clinton has hinted recently that if she wins the nomination she would consider sharing the ticket with Obama. But in an interview Friday in Wyoming with KTVQ-TV, a CBS affiliate based in Billings, Mont., Obama shied away from that possibility.

"Well, you know, I think it's premature. You won't see me as a vice presidential candidate you know, I'm running for president," Obama told the television station. "We have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton, and have a higher popular vote, and I think we can maintain our delegate count.

"What I am really focused on right now, because all that stuff is premature, is winning this nomination and changing the country. I think that's what people here are concerned about."

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Associated Press writers Bob Moen in Casper and Matt Joyce and Ben Neary in Cheyenne contributed to this report.







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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:20 PM
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1. It's going to be 8-5 with the bonus delegate for winning the state.
:bounce:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:21 PM
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2. As I recall, Obama got 40% of the white vote in Georgia?
His voters are building the Party. Hillary's voters are maintaining the Party. We need both of them to win, unfortunately.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:22 PM
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3. Shows you how hard it is to build a delegate lead
and why Hillary will never catch up.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:23 PM
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5. She doesn't need a delegate lead.
:hi:
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:24 PM
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7. No, she needs a miracle
:rofl:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:24 PM
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8. Keep believing that
:hi:
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:26 PM
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10. You sig line is misleading.
a)BO won more caucuses...

b) IA, ME, WA, NV have not reported vote totals.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:08 AM
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22. What do you mean?
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:22 PM
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4. Didn't both CNN and MSNBC have it 7 to 4? before the bonus delegate.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:27 PM
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13. yeah still do
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:23 PM
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6. it's proportional
I think he had to get to 63% to make it an 8-4 split. Just missed it, darn.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:24 PM
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9. she didnt win texas n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:11 PM
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16. she did win the popular vote in Texas, though...n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:49 PM
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18. You want to bring up the subject of popular votes? Obama has 600,000 more than she does.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 10:50 PM by David Zephyr
You don't seem to ever mention that. Why is that? Hmmm...

Oh, yeah. Perhaps it conflicts with your "impartiality" that you work to have us believe in.

600,000. How about those apples?

Next subject please.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:54 PM
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19. but she didnt win. obama won 2 adn clinton won 2....
(you know i have always like you dont you. lol lol. with this us against them thing i am seeing i am on the other side of people i really like. it is just what it is, ... soon we will be beyond this battle)
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:06 AM
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21. Yes, she did.
She wo the popular vote even if Obama ended with a 3 or 4 more delgates.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:40 AM
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23. he won the delegate race,.... and that is the win. n.t
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:26 PM
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11. CNN Is Saying Obama 7 - HRC 4 - 1 Undetermined nt
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:27 PM
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12. If Montana can go Democratic, why not Wyoming?
We should never close the door on possibilities.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:40 PM
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17. Montana hasn't gone Democratic on the presidential level since 1992 and 1964 before that.
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bleowheels Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:32 PM
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14. Maybe your headline should read, "Obama wins WY, increases lead"
because after all, he is increasing his lead in pledged delegates.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:35 PM
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15. The lead is important, but what is important now is also Obama getting closer to the magic number
8 is a nice little step in that direction, even if the margin was only 4.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:58 PM
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20. Maybe Gov. Sweitzer of Montana would be a good VP for Obama
Might bring in states like Montana, Colorado, New Mexico.
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