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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:56 PM
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I support Obama: this race ain't over! And it shouldn't be.
My fellow Obama supporters: quit your fucking whining. Clinton wants to fight it out. She wants to see if the delegates (super and otherwise) REALLY desire Obama as a candidate. She wants to see just how tough he is. And it's understandable. Jesus, you don't think she and Bill know how absolutely ruthless Washington can be? She wants to see if Obama will wilt. Why? Because she's pure evil? No. The Clintons believe--no, they know--that you gots to be able to take a beating and then dish out it right back with even more force in order to survive. They see this as the NUMBER ONE trait in a democratic candidate. And, quite honestly, so do many, many dems. (present party included).

(This next part ios heavily excerpted from a previous post).
The ONLY thing I LOVE about the Clintons is their political bare-knuckled, fuck-it-all-with-no-regrets politicking. It's how they survived the 90s. And we, yes WE, all cheered them on. They fucked Bob Livingston 7-ways 'til Sunday. And I loved it. They weren't liberal enough for me; to me they opened the floodgates to our modern corporatocracy: see, dems. are supposed to protect us against the corporate interests--not sell us out. But I digress.

So, I must say, I have NO problem with what Clinton is doing now. Did we really expect any different? I mean, come on. If Obama didn't see this shit coming a mile away, then I'm not too sure he'll survive (by the way, I think he saw it coming a mile away). When Edwards was talking about power-structures in Washington, I have no doubt he had the Clintons in mind; i.e., you don't ask them to relinquish power, you must take it from them. I EXPECT Obama to do the same. If he can't fight back and win (hell, if he can't win with a majority of delegates), then I'm sorry, he just isn't up to the task of being president. He's obviously qualified in terms of smarts, policy, etc.; he would simply demonstrate that he's not ready in terms of RAW POLITICS--you know, Richard Scaiffe-funded RAW POLITICS. So if Clinton is playing a bit rough, well, boo-hoo, go cry me a fucking river, Obama supporters. If he's the real deal, he'll have ice water running through his veins. Shit, if he can't get dems. to support him after he's won all of these primaries, then HE has a bit of a problem.

All this said, I don't think Obama is fazed by any of this shit. To be perfectly honest, I want to see him go off on Clinton. She's the perfect guinea-pig; she now has high negatives amongst dems, and people see her as deserving any shit thrown her way. He just has to be careful; the Clintons are the masters (and I mean this as a compliment)

Now if we're making the argument about the good of democratic party, then Clinton needs to bow out. She's mathematically toast. She essentially wants to drag Obama into the mud, kick the shit out him, beat in Pennsylvania, wound him badly, smile that fucking pasted on-joker-like-Laura-Bush-smile and get the nomination. And, guess what--she'll win by doing this. But guess what: she believes she's more qualified than Obama, and she believes this is the way one proves it. And you know what, so do I. This ain't Ronnie Reagan land: we WILL speak ill of fellow dems (though I think Hart is spot-on in the line he has drawn). I want a democratic nominee who believes he or she is THE BEST, STRONGEST candidate. And if Clinton takes Obama down, then so be it.

So, I hope Obama wins. I hope he hands Cinton's ass to her. But if he gets his handed to him, well, then our toughest, strongest, candidate won. And that is our nominee.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Obama defeats the Clintons (yes, both/all of them), then he has beat the best politicians of my generation. The Quing is dead; long live the king. But if the Quing lives, then I shall kiss her ring and pull the lever for her.

That is all. Save us from ourselves, Pennsylvania.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:00 PM
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1. Please
Yeah, sure. They're doing this for Obama's sake.

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:01 PM
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2. I know..just when you think you've
heard it all ..ya haven't. And, yeah, I think she's evil but not pure.
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:04 PM
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3. Please reread my post. You seem to have extracted the OPPOSITE meaning.
How can you read my post and come to your conclusion? Really, I'm curious. Which sentences led you to believe I believe that the Clintons were doing it for Obama?

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:07 PM
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4. Testing ground is correct
we're all gonna see how the party is going to handle this when it is all over.

:beer:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:08 PM
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5. quit whining about whining. there is always a whiner to whine about the whining. n/t
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:09 PM
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6. Quit whining about the whining about the whining. There is always a whiner to whine about a whiner
whining about the whining.

This is a fun game.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:12 PM
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7. bah hahhaah. hey that pictue on you post, would be perfect for my respnse.
i knew there was a possibility of one of those responses.
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:15 PM
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9. The picture is Dali's "The face of war." It was Dali's way of continually whining about war :-)
I like the double posts by the way. Nice touch.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:20 PM
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10. Dali's way of continually whining ............ funny. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:12 PM
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8. dupe
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 09:13 PM by seabeyond
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:53 PM
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11. You're right.

It's an alpha thing.

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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:55 AM
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12. I'm hoping they win together . His world view and her machine.
What an invincible team. He would temper her, and she would be his support. WOW, can you see it?
He could steer the ship and she would make sure it runs. She has strength behind her and he has everything in front of him.

Both working for us. Together.Judgment and fresh optimistic generation from Obama and the depth of all the women who will stand behind Hillary no matter what.Then the backing of the establishment of the Clinton years and the majority of Americans who remember life before Bush.
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istopforcookies Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:23 AM
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13. Clinton Prez Obama VP
Go Go Go!
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