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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:52 PM
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I decided
If Obama loses the nomination, I will vote for Hillary in the general election.

The reason is that I have always believed that if you haven't voted, you have no right to complain about the government.

I think I'll have a lot to complain about if she wins and I want remove obstacles and inhibitions.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:55 PM
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1. At this point I will also...but the no vote for Hillary line is getting dangerously close.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 07:55 PM by yourout
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:59 PM
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5. Her comment about how she and
McCain were much more experienced than he was the straw for me. That is way over the line. I will vote for her if I have to, but I will have to hold my nose to do it.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:56 PM
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2. Exactly, well said
As angry as I am at Hillary, NOTHING will ever make me mad enough to vote for a Republican.
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:56 PM
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3. She lost me with the red phone and the mccain endorsement
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:03 PM
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19. There was no endorsement. Carry on.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:57 PM
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4. I won't.. I can't reward her filth. She is no better than McCain. McCain will moderate in the gen
Once the general starts, his positions will soften.

I won't vote for McCain either, I may sit out. I cannot in all good conscious vote for Clinton.

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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:00 PM
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6. That's not true
McCain is going to need every right wing vote he can get. He won't moderate in the GE
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:05 PM
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10. McCain is going to need every right wing vote he can get.
If Hillary's the nominee he doesnt have to pander to the right, they'll vote for him just to stop her from winning.

Also Hillary's lack of capturing the independants compared to Obama frees McCain up to go after them by campaigning as a moderate.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:06 PM
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11. If hillarys the nominee, he will win. the repubs will come out in record numbers to stop her
we will lose the independents and the new voters who came out in droves and by the state of the race thus far, who support Obama, will sit home.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:25 PM
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13. Keep in mind the Supreme Court.
Whoever gets the White House will have the opportunity to replace one or two of them.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:01 PM
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7. As long as you pay taxes you have a right to complain...
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 08:07 PM by Bread and Circus
that's why the "taxation without representation" phrases rings so true as a call to arms.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:01 PM
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8. I'll have to hold my nose to vote Dem
but I'll vote Dem. Not so with my husband, who says he won't vote for Clinton. I'm just trying to get him to vote third party rather than McCain right now.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:02 PM
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9. Just look at all the failed Republican policies, we should be on
them 24/7, shaming them publicly for what they did to the country. That is the way to win this election.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:08 PM
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12. I would never vote for McCain or Clinton.
They're both far too right-wing for me.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:38 PM
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14. You do not have to worry about any but Obama.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 08:41 PM by BlueJac
Unless you like the Mc Same/Clinton ticket!


I forgot, Fuck that fucking traitor to the Democratic Party Hillary. Are you fucking nuts?


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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:40 PM
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15. Am starting to feel there's no hope
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 08:42 PM by fadedrose
McCain wins, it's same as now.

Hillary wins, even worse, because expectations will be so high and disappointment will be even greater.

The corporate giants will have her win by hook or crook, the war will go on, we'll probably attack Iran, pharmaceuticals will screw us once again, and there's nothing we can do. We'll be lucky to have SS at the end of her term because I don't believe a word she says. They'll win.

Won't be any talk of impeachment. They probably have an agreement with the current WH people that says if you don't tell on us, we won't tell on you....wink wink.

The Michigan thing, well...it's fine that our officials came out and endorsed Hillary, but not fine if they intended on fixing the election. Only people very stupid or very dishonest could have set up our primary. And they'll do it again.

Am so depressed about this.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:44 PM
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16. I would too
But thee is no way she can win the nomination. As it stands right now, she needs to win by 65% in PA, and 60% in the remaining to match Obama in pledged delegates.

Her other option is to try to get a ridiculous majority of Super delegates to overturn the 6 months of expensive contests.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:45 PM
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17. Thankfully you won't have to make that sacrifice.
She won't be on the ballot.
:hi:
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:49 PM
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18. I wish I had l/2 your confidence....I distrust the DLC so much
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