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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:57 PM
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Obama wins Wyoming. Momentum? Nope. He's weak and he can't fight.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:58 PM by sparosnare
Hillary is ruthless, which will win over the Superdelegates, Obama's message of hope = weakness, he can't fight back.

Hillary - they aren't going to take this away from me!!!!

WTF? She never had it.

The MSM is doing their best to help out Clinton today.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:59 PM
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1. You must have been watching
Tweety on MSNBC.

Yep. I noticed that, too.

The GOP Corporate Media is soooooooooo transparent in their crusade for Clinton. :argh:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:01 PM
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3. That segement was particularly bad, wasn't it?
They are desperately goading Obama into fighting back. Don't do it Obama.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:12 PM
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23. YES, he needs to do some ossense, as well as other changes.
Politics is tough business, and NO ONE wants a wimpy President. You can't stand and be punched without punching back. THIS IS A NO BRAINER.
But, he also must do more in terms of being more specific on policy, more specific on his experience, and do more to target the Hillary working class, older, and female voting blocks. He needs to talk from his gut and specify how he will solve problems in a more concrete way.
But whatever he does, he CAN NOT afford to stand there and allow himself to get beaten to shreds in the name of "the high road". If he can't fight, he can't be PRESIDENT !!
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:20 PM
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32. I agree that he needs to tailor his message in PA
over the next month to working class voters. Move away from the subject of Iraq and foreign policy and more about jobs, the economy, the foreclosure crisis, and social security etc.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:03 PM
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8. Riiiiiiiiight! After Tweety and his friends approved BO's race baiting, now
saying he won't fight back.

He initiates all the shit and Hillary fights back.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:09 PM
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47. Is that how you remember it?
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 07:10 PM by stillcool47

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail


A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level.


Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail.
The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12...

Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States.

Obama is a Christian.

The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs



Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance

By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/...


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-t...
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.

Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008...



Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.

Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/in...


http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080...
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-... /
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proud Democrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.


January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-n... /
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign doesnt seem to have a conscience.


Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation...
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET

The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
----------
Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:04 PM
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10. Watch the same and Pat really hates Obama
I would think an independent like Pat would not attack him and seems to be a buddy like Cheney and McClain with Hillary. Did you see those videos on here yesterday of Cheney speaking, Hillary come right on with a xerox copy speaking what Cheney said. Eye opening.

Cheney tried to help her in Wy but it did not work.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:49 PM
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51. Well, they might actually have to stop being corporate shills and do their job
when President Obama takes office. That scares them.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:00 PM
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2. That is the concensus of opinion on Hardball. Rachel stated that the
superdelegates will be making the final decisions on this. I feel ill.
Barack needs to get his Chicago mojo going and get tough. She's no lady, she's his opponent. Let's get some South Side Chicago stuff going here, people will be proud of him...
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:01 PM
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4. You got that right.
The MSM is such an embarrassment to themselves.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:02 PM
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5. To put things in perspective
It isn't hard to win Wyoming in the Democratic Primaries, there's all of maybe three Democrats in that state anyway.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:05 PM
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12. I'm sure the people of Wyoming really appreciate your minimalizing them like that.
There were 1500 at one location, that saw less than 150 a year ago. That was just one location. But good luck with them no mattering.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:11 PM
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20. So there was about 7,600 caucus goers for the whole state...
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:12 PM
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21. And those 7,600 don't count?
Come on. That's not fair and you know it.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:42 PM
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42. Wow, you must be a psychic to be able to discern from my statement
that I implied that it wasn't fair...

I don't like the Caucus system, but my fight is going to be to change that for 2012...
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:13 PM
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24. RECORD TURNOUT comparatively for this small state.
AND THEY DO COUNT !!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:42 PM
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43. Who said they didn't...
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:17 PM
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29. YES, And they count!
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:40 PM
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48. Just pointing out that
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 07:41 PM by knight_of_the_star
There aren't that many Dems in Wyoming so really not that many people to try to sway. Winning Wyoming is, in my mind, nothing compared to winning say California or Illinois, both states with large populations that need to be convinced. Trumpeting such a victory like it means ultimate triumph when it really doesn't is incredibly dishonest to say the least.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:06 PM
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13. They were suprised on CNN as he won
union county's whoe they thought would go big for Hillary.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:02 PM
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6. When is the last time in a one week period she gained delegates
The press is still saying what a big win she had this week and yet he was +12 in delegates and 4 more states out of the way.

I wonder if anyone has a list of weeks and who gained in delegates.

Next week Obama will win big with Wy, Miss, unassigned delegates he got (was it 12), calif delegates (8), NY may come in this week with more for Obama.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:03 PM
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7. I'm not worried.
There is no way Clinton can steal this.

The SDs are not going to overturn the voters and delegates.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:04 PM
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9. They're now saying the superdelegates from the "unimportant states" could move to Hillary.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 06:05 PM by sparosnare
They shouldn't feel bound to Obama since he hasn't won anything big. x(
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:06 PM
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14. I think their constituents would feel differently about that.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:08 PM
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15. Why in the world would they do that?
They're having a ridiculous argument.

The MSM wants this to keep going so they're ignoring the obvious.

There is a reason why Hillary and Bill are suggesting a joint ticket.

They know they cannot win this and now they're trying to convince SDs to put her on the top of the ticket with Obama as VP. Desperate moves.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:09 PM
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16. Buchanan said Obama had a very bad week and lost Texas.
No one on the panel called him on it. They keep saying she won Texas.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:14 PM
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25. I don't take any of them seriously. And Texas thing...
will be corrected once the caucus numbers are official.

This is all up to the SDs now. And as long as Obama continues to court them and continues to campaign strongly, he's got this.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:17 PM
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28. It was disappointing that Eugene Robinson didn't point out that Obama is projected to have won more
delegates in TX, since he was talking about it with Olbermann just yesterday.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:24 PM
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34. They're ALL saying she won Texas.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:27 PM
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38. I guess my caucuses don't count.
:shrug:
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:05 PM
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11. no matter what MSM says
I think the Super Delegates are seeing the same thing we are and that is that Hillary is campaigning in a way to hurt the Party in the GE. They also see that she hasn't gained any support. She started out at about 45% with all of her name recognition and after campaigning for over a year and spending millions of dollars, she's still at about 45% of dems. The only crossovers she gets is the Rush Limbaugh listeners who think its fun to watch the dems kick their own ass.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:09 PM
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17. Crowing about a caucus in a state where one's candidate has ZERO chance of winning
and then making claims based on the result involves the sort of logic one generally sees in junior high school.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:11 PM
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19. Wow. You lost some brain cells putting that thought together.
:hi:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:11 PM
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18. Scarborough let it slip last night on Bill Maher's show..
That he's seen power people in the news-rooms demanding that the reporters and pundits prop up Hillary.

Maher was shocked that he let that cat out of the bag. It was a huge slip IMO.

I'm watching MSNBC right now and it's obvious that it's still in full effect.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:15 PM
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26. Ding, ding, ding
And they're having to ignore facts to do it. They look foolish.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:34 PM
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40. Scarborough made me sick last night.
He confirmed every single reason for the existence of Digby, Media Matters, Americablog... you name it.

He came right out and admitted that the media narratives are authored by them, and that the current narrative is the result of candidate push-back.

Rather than showing alarm or concern that the media doesn't report, but rather, opines and authors, he seemed perfectly comfortable with it.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:12 PM
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22. Is he going to give a victory speech tonight?
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 06:13 PM by jenmito
It would be great to see him happy and victorious again!
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:16 PM
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27. Obama sure knows how to win in Repug states.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:18 PM
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31. And swing states.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 06:19 PM by jenmito
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:34 PM
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41. Like Alabama?
Tell me how Barack won Alabama.

Please feel free to use as much detail as you care for. :)
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:45 PM
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49. What is your point?
He won in AL but AL is going R in the General like Wyoming.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:22 PM
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52. And exactly which demographics did he win in AL?
And how did he win these demographics? :shrug:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:45 PM
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44. States that Obama won...
the most delegates
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/...
Alabama
Alaska
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
District of Columbia
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Minnesota
Nevada
North Dakota
South Carolina
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Virgin Islands
Washington
Wisconsin
Wyoming

states that were tied
New Hampshire
Missouri
Texas
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:48 PM
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50. Obama has not won a single large state except Illinois
Where they gave him a home state sympathy vote or maybe they want to get rid of him.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:34 PM
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53. Oh yeah...
along with the states he won...that of course don't count...
there's all these votes that he got...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/...
Popular Vote Total Obama -13,005,114 Clinton-12,414,786
Popular Vote (w/FL)Obama- 13,581,328 Clinton 13,285,772


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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:50 PM
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45. So let's just have the LOSER 20-state strategy??? DUMB !!
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:18 PM
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30. Tweety and crew are all nuts tonight...
Even Rachel Maddow sounds strange. It is as if they all want Obama to come out swinging just for the sake of being macho. Yeah right, then Hillary the victim can get more sympathy from women?

What the hell is with these people--still going overboard to show they're not biased toward Obama--obviously...
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:53 PM
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46. No, he DOES have to do some Offense, but smartly. And,
he needs to get more specific on policy and experience, talk more the from gut as a fighting advocate for the middle and working classes, and target her female-elderly-working class bases more effectively. These are fair lessons to learn. If he does, he'll do even better going forward. Again, campaigns are also lessons to be learned, and he needs to learn some. GO OBAMA !!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:22 PM
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33. This is disgusting, BUT, its exactly the THEME that the Camp of Disgust is suceeding in putting
out there. Obama is winning, but the MSM perpetuates the illusion that he is not, and can't. And they get away with it.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:24 PM
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35. And Eugene Robinson FINALLY trumps the whole conversation with - the facts. n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:26 PM
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37. That was smooth. I like Eugene (did even before this race started). n/t
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 06:26 PM by sparosnare
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:26 PM
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36. The m$$$m aren't the only ones..
I read this on buzzflash and saw red.

by Mark Karlin..

<snips>
"So Obama has a dilemma. He is running against a candidate whose "35 years of experience" is a slogan, not a reality as far as governance is concerned (except for the scant accomplishments of her senate years). But her very endurance and indefatigable campaigning -- however dirty it has become -- has, to some voters, transformed her into the image of a protector. It's out of the Bush play book, but it's working.

Unlike Bush, however, Clinton doesn't take many siestas or holidays. When she's defeated, she bounces right back up, and that is in our culture an admirable characteristic. No one can begrudge Senator's Clinton energy and endurance.

Obama runs the risk of his opponent successfully being perceived as the battler, if she continues to tip the narrative of the campaign from hope to fear.

The politics of hope, change, and the future faces a conundrum when, in the late stages of the campaign, it faces an opponent who has made a positive out of being unrelenting.

Obama's concern about tainting his narrative is allowing the campaign to shift to a different narrative. Instead of centering on hope and change, many Americans are now evaluating who throws a better punch when the refs aren't looking, and who can work the refs better when they are in the ring (this would in general be the media, by the way)."

Lots more..
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/060

He thinks hilary's scraping the bottom of the feeding trough aka indefatigableness is a plus and Obama's backed into a corner because he's running on HOpe and Change. I call bullshit. Obama can and will run on Hope and freakin' Change and still answer the fawking hilary smears and get her lyin' record out too. How's that for a Magic Man?


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Hope isn't a weakness, and it isn't his only message

She has already thrown the "kitchen sink" at him. Most of that was trivial. she has nothing left except the stuff too trivial to bother using before.

HE simply needs to give quick responses to her attacks, and then move on to elevate the debate. In doing so, she looks petty, and he looks presidential.

The biggest error of the last week was dwelling on the responses rather than simply changing the debate to something the voters actually care about.
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