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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:35 PM
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What Obama needs to come out and say right now is this:

"There is NO chance... I repeat... NO chance that I will ask Senator Clinton to join my ticket, and I would not accept an invitation from her, in the very unlikely event that she wins the nomination, to be on hers. Democrats need to make a choice. Either you want a continuation of the politics of division that is represented by John McCain and Hillary Clinton, or you want to usher in a new kind of politics in Washington. Make the choice, Democrats. If you vote for Hillary, you are voting for a politics of 'same old, same old'. Hillary Clinton is correct... John McCain has lots of experience. If 'experience' is your issue, neither Senator Clinton nor myself can beat John McCain - so John McCain is your candidate.

But if you want to change the way that Washington does business, then there is only one choice. I ask you to join me in changing the culture."


(or words to that effect)


This "Dream Ticket" strategy by the Clintons is meant to get voters who "like them both" to relent. He needs to stop it in its tracks.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:36 PM
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1. Absolutely yes. This is a blatant attempt by Hill and Bill and surrogates to tap into
Obama's vote. They must NOT be allowed to do it, agreed.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:36 PM
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2. I doubt this particular tactic will work
I wouldn't worry much about it.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:36 PM
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3.  A "Dream Ticket' For Who?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:52 PM
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25. DING DING DING! Dinger, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 06:55 PM by rocknation
A "Dream Ticket" for who?

Where Hillary goes, the DLC's corporate tentacles, and by extension, the Rethugs, follow. Obama would have to look over his shoulder constantly. Dream ticket, my

:kick:
rocknation

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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:37 PM
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4. Perfect! Email it over to the Obama camp.
:hi:
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:37 PM
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5. There you go! Alienate half of the Democratic party...
...smart, very smart. I'm glad you aren't advising him.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:41 PM
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10. If you haven't noticed, half of the Democratic party is already alienated!
He needs to end this "dream ticket" stuff. It would make Democrats look like idiots to put the two adversaries as running mates....oh, what fodder for the repukes!
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:45 PM
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12. So, alienate them any further? I don't see the logic...
...and I apologize for sounding like an ass in my post- it wasn't my intention. I don't think Obama needs to make a Shermanesque statement like this. Something like, "I will evaluate all potential candidates individually, and make my choice based on who could best serve this country and what we're trying to do." It leaves it open enough, but pretty much closes the door, depending on which talking head is reporting.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:35 PM
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19. OK..your suggestion would work too...he just has to say something
that won't lead people to think he and Hillary could be running mates. No apology needed.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:38 PM
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6. I kind of think it shows desperation on the Clintons' part
I kind of think it shows desperation on the Clintons' part to keep pushing this. In that sense, it may benefit Obama for them to continue doing so.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:46 PM
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13. Actually, it's creating the mind set that he is Veep material and nothing more.
I don't like it. If they keep saying that, she'll be stuck with him.

He would not be loyal to her. He is only loyal to himself.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:54 PM
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16. The problem is,
Out of one side of her mouth she's saying he's not qualified to be president and out of the other side of her mouth she's saying she wants him as VP. I don't think anyone is buying it. The reason it's a sign of desperation is that she has almost no chance of winning the nomination at this point, so it would be her as VP, not Obama.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:39 PM
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21. Do you know what a Veep does?
Attend funerals and the like. Al Gore was a special case and had a real say in things.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:49 PM
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24. Tell that to Dick Cheney.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:38 PM
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7. ...which explains why you don't have a job as a Democratic candidate's advisor.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:39 PM
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8. If he does this, HRC wins. n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:39 PM
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9. I Think That Would Be A Nail In His Coffin.
I'm sure they're quite glad they haven't hired you as a campaign adviser. Seriously.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:43 PM
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11. Wrong aproach. I think it's his decision and we all need to stand by it
if he wins, no matter if it's Hillary Clinton or Jim Webb, or John Edwards for that matter....or Al Gore?....Joe Biden?

So many qualified people to choose from. We have a lot of great people on our side, Dems.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:46 PM
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14. He consistently says that it is premature to discuss this.
And your wanting him to say something different does not make it right.

Do you have a source on the Clintons "Dream Ticket" strategy, because I haven't heard her say that? She has said that she knows that a lot of people (including myself) would like to vote for them both and she does not rule that out in the future.

I am not sure what you mean by "like them both" (as if we are some kind of false group). I also don't understand what you mean by relent.

I realize that there are some supporters of Obama that see a joint ticket as anathema, but there are many who feel very differently and would see it as the perfect ticket.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:50 PM
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15. Please. Go tell Axelrod or Oprah to make him say that.
Wonderful. Especially rounding it off at the end with that clump of corporate-speak "changing the culture."
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:56 PM
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17. i agree with you.
and i trust him to find a way to say it without pissing too many people off.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:32 PM
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18. yes. well said. send it to him. nt
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:38 PM
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20. Dream Ticket: McCain-Clinton
Unless you want your children to die in their sleep, for God sakes, we need the experience that these two warriors bring to the table.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:44 PM
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22. I think it would be too nerve wracking for Obama to be on a ticket with her. He would have to sleep
with one eye open. No one should have to live like that, no one.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:46 PM
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23. ahh, another dreamer who thinks O is some kind of revolutionary. heh. nt
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:46 PM
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26. A better response...
...the next time he is asked about sharing a ticket with Hillary:

"Based on what Senator Clinton has been saying of late, it appears that she would prefer to be on John McCain's ticket, so you might want to ask him that question."
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