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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:59 PM
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MSNBC Callls Wyoming for Obama
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 06:01 PM by hnmnf
I hear CNN just called it too.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:00 PM
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1. CNN just did!
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:02 PM
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2. Time for McClinton to drop out
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:03 PM
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3. Yup
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:03 PM
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4. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:05 PM
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6. Glad you agree.
:thumbsup:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:09 PM
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10. Another quality post by
OPERATIONMINDNUMB
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:30 PM
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16. I'm really enjoying my first spin with the IGNORE function
When you only have one name on your list you can be sure you're not missing anything. Highly recommended! :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:36 PM
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25. I have 50 on my list
and I know I'm not missin' a damn thing. :hi:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:16 PM
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35. yea after 7 years here
I finally have one on ignore too Stephanie-he friggin may be the second one
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leftrightwingnut Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:34 PM
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23. Still too close.
She needs to net only 50 or so delegates to have a shot at the nomination at the convention. If Obama's lead is less than 100 pledged delegates, she could reasonably persuade the super delegates to throw the nomination to her.

My guess is that if things continue along current trends, she will be lucky to net 25 pledged delegates.

Even so, she still won't drop out because she has a reasonable shot at persuading pledged delegates to switch. That tactic would be rather rancorous, but I don't think she will care.

Then there are Florida and Michigan. Unless there is a redo, Clinton could pick up enough to put her solidly in super delegate decision land.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:34 PM
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24. Time For A Change
Not More of the McSaaaame.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:03 PM
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5. The Question Is Finally Settled
Indeed, Wyoming doesn't "count".
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:41 PM
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26. Yeah, the burning question..
Does Wyoming Count? Only to those who value Democracy and I'll say the Wyoming Dems are ectatic with all the turnout!

<snip>

Her husband, Dave Freudenthal, is a popular two-term Democratic governor in a state that is dominated by Republicans. He has not publicly endorsed either candidate and his wife was reluctant to state her preference (though their 21-year-old daughter Katie was holding an Obama sign).

The crowd, said Nancy Freudenthal, "is nothing I expected. At Democratic events in Wyoming, you tend to see the same worker bees over and over. Today I see tons of new faces. This has great potential to revive the Democratic Party."

At about 9:25 a.m., Karpan took the microphone to nominate her candidate, Clinton. She would be followed by Ken McCauley, a retired Air Force pilot, who would nominate Obama.


Lots more>
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-nuwyoming9ma...

You know the dlc doesn't like this grassroots revival.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:05 PM
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7. By my calculations,
Hillary now needs to win 64% of the remaining delegates (or 57% of the remaining delegates + superdelegates) to tie it up with Obama.

Is the writing on the wall yet, Hillary?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:05 PM
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8. About fucking time!!!
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:07 PM
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9. Cowboys for Obama!! Woo-hoo!
Let 'em have it! Yee-haw!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:43 PM
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29. Yeah, I would think
hilary's dlc politics would go over better in Wyoming but I'm glad that's not the way it is at ALL!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:19 PM
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11. MSNBC and CNN thinks that we are all stupid.......
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 06:19 PM by FrenchieCat
Is this what it means to be a second class citizen?

Everything you do, you must do twice as well, or get written off?


1st, Texas is showing up as a Hillary State for both Corporate owned Cable Network (thanks 1996 Telecommunications Act signed by Bill Clinton).

2nd, Both of the "newsstations" have made Barack Obama disappear. Whenever they show Hillary talking, which is often, they let us listen to what she says. Whenever they show Barack talking, there is no sound except the sound of the pundits talking.

3rd, Mathematically, it is impossible for Hillary to catch up, the but media doesn't emphasize that, other than to call it "Math".

4th, No one is actually doing much in highlighting the fact that Obama has actually accomplished more in the area of National Security/Foreign Policy than Clinton has.

5th, Money no longer matter. The underplaying of the amount of Funds that Obama has raised is quite telling. Like the difference of 20 million dollars between the two candidates doesn't mean much. :eyes:

6th, The media doesn't like to tell us by how much Barack keeps closing the gap in the states where he lags by double digits in like days....but they know it has something to do with showing him with those big crowds, so that footage will no longer be shown.

7th, Hillary, Bill and Chelsea Clinton all went into Wyoming to campaign, and got not much for it.

8th, they are bad at hiding the fact that they want Hillary in the end.....cause that way, they keep their corporate status intact.

9th, they keep talking about a Veep ticket.......
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:26 PM
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12. Everything in that list is crap.
1. Texas is a Hillary win because 100,000 more voters voted for her than Obama. Some might have happened to vote twice for Obama (moreso than those who voted twice for Hillary), but the media sees through that crap. "Wins" in the media are always done by popular vote. If anything, it just shows how undemocratic the caucus system is.

2. They went on for TWO MONTHS bashing Hillary and fawning at Obama. I didn't see your outrage then.

3. Mathematically, it is very possible. She just needs to win the popular vote, and the superds will flock to her. And 57% of the people thing popular vote should trump pledged delegates. It is only mathematically impossible to "win" under your incorrect standard for "winning."

4. Bullshit. I suggest you look at the latest thread of Clinton's accomplishments in foreign policy at home and abroad.

5. They constantly talk about Obama's massive fundraising.

6. They continue to show him in big crowds all the time. Watch CNN's ballot bowl, on for 4 hours a day.

7. So what? They shouldn't have campaigned in Wyoming?

8. If they really wanted Hillary than they wouldn't have tried to write Hillary out twice, and covered her extremely negatively for two months.

9. So what? Hillary says she would be OK with Obama as her VP if she were nominated. Is this now a crime? about 2/3 of the nation wants a dream ticket.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:44 PM
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30. Your post is full of shit and ignorance..go
learn something.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:16 PM
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36. Care to explain why?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:29 PM
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15. This is an excellent post, Frenchie. Lots of important media
facts in there. Let's add to it and you should make it an OP.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:28 PM
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13. Jessica McYellin is parsing it as a delegate win for both of them. Wow. Just wow.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:31 PM
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17. How can it be a delegate win for her? He could break 60 percent.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:32 PM
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21. Because she actually GOT 4 delegates.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:46 PM
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32. Well thats ridiculous. There is no reason for her not to do well in Wyoming.
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:29 PM
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14. lovely! congatulations Barack.... point of order though:
it doesn't count, as a small state, caucus, and red state it gets the hat-trick disqualification.

before the Hillbot sharks come in for one or all of the above kills, think about this though: what kind of massive celebration about continued comeback kid momentum talking to the hearts of middle america counter-story would they have woven? hmmmm....

God sometimes I wish we had access to an alternative universe to point such things out ;)
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:31 PM
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18. All 58 of them!
Woohoo! Mandate!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:31 PM
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19. 7 or 8 of the delegates are Obama's per CNN -
last caucus will determine which number is correct.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:32 PM
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20. Wyoming, welcome to the states that no longer count!
Hopefully we here in Pennsylvania will be joining you shortly.

:patriot:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:33 PM
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22. YAAAYYY!!f Thanks,
hnmnf!
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:41 PM
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27. wooohoo GOBAMA!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:42 PM
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28. Tweety SMAKDOWN ! Michael Smerkonish just shut him up
when he tried to blather on and announce that "President Clinton won!" during the PA meeting yesterday.

Both of his guests told him, "No, he didn't. Obama won."

Now he's all "I know all about PA ! I know how it goes." Fuck him. He's going to shill for HIllary for the next 7 weeks. Working the wards, my ass.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:46 PM
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31. Smerconish suggests he doesnt spend time in big rallies. I disagree
Obama has time and he needs to do both. While he should do plenty of Iowa type Town Halls, when he is in State College, and Pittsburgh, and Philly, he should do these big rallies because they get a lot of press and that is where he shines. Just add more substance to those speeches and he will be fine. Maybe in April sometime, do a couple football stadium rallies. Now that would be something special.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:50 PM
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33. Go Obama Go, it is time for change, time for less of the same...

this is the new wave we have needed for so long.

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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:01 PM
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34. Yeah - Wyoming knows - You can't fool a cowboy - Right on!!!!!
:applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:
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