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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:38 PM
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Just when is Hillary going to start winning delegates?
I mean seriously, in order for her to not be little more then a McCain boosting spoiler, she needed to start winning delegates weeks ago. With her eventual loss in Wyoming today, any momentum she got from winning Ohio is over. What is she going do? When will she wise up and drop out?
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:39 PM
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1. Puerto Rico
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:40 PM by NightWatcher
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:42 PM
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2. Um, she already has...
She's within ten. That's sneezing room.

It's called "the margin of error." I love how arrogant Obama people are. They think the other candidate doesn't exist. They think the other person's supporters don't matter.

It's been a campaign of hate, and I shudder to think at what you will do when the time comes to actually do something-- and the people on the other side are still there. You seem to think the government is your friends and that's it.

It figures that supporters of someone from Chicago would believe in patronage.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:47 PM
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6. Hillary has to win every single state remaining by BIG margins. Coming within 10 points just means..
she's losing worse.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:55 PM
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22. Within ten what?
Delegates? When did that happen?

Obama - 1581
Clinton - 1460

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/...

That's a few more than ten, unless they've re-written the rules of math for this election.

- as
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:56 PM
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23. You do know you are a bigot. Don't you?
bigot

You are disparaging an entire class of people due to a disagreement with an individual post at DU. But I'm sure you find it's much easier to do this than to debate a post on its merits. It also makes you look like a lazy man with a shotgun.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:42 PM
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3. She doesn't have to win delegates, she's gonna be President n/t
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:46 PM
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4. Whats neverland like? Is it pretty there?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:02 PM
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30. You're barking up the wrong tree
:hi:

I've seen enough Clintons in the White House.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:03 PM
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31. I get it now Debi!!
Sorry, I was just itching to mention "Neverland".

Godspeed
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:11 PM
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37. Well.....I do live in Iowa
:shrug:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:46 PM
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5. Time for party elders to step in and do their jobs..n/t
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:47 PM by monmouth
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:06 PM
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33. This is the solid truth of things
They need to start making noise now.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:48 PM
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7. She'll win some today. Turn on the tee veeeee. When's Obama gonna deliver a KO?
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:48 PM by wlucinda
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:57 PM
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25. Hillary needs to do a lot more then win "some". She needs to win the majority, which she seems
unable to do. Its over and now she's just getting in the way.
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newfie4 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:48 PM
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8. When is Obama going to start winning states that we need to win in Nov.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:49 PM by newfie4
Instead of the rich hipster/AA vote and not being able to turn out the democratic base in key states like NY, NJ, Mass. Ohio and CA.

You can have the soho hipster college vote
You have the Willie Nelson vote in places like Wyoming where Dems are outnumbered 200-1 and the only ones that do exist are very far left
The AA vote, well that's a given

When is Obama going to start winning the soccer moms, the suburban middle and upper class. These are segments that are ripe for the picking for McCain.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:49 PM
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10. He won TX, IL, and VA...
using your logic we should just let CA and NY vote.
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newfie4 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:51 PM
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12. He LOST TEXAS
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:52 PM by newfie4
Get it through your skulls, Obama lost in texas. where he outspent her 2 to 1 no less

And Virginia is comfortably GOP in every election
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:52 PM
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16. HE WON TEXAS - Don't pretend like the caucuses don't count, even if Hillary tells you so.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:53 PM
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18. Get it through your melon, 98 delegates is more than 95
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newfie4 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:57 PM
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26. Hillary got more votes = Hillary wins
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:58 PM by newfie4
Delegate wise, it may be unfair and stupid. Much like the caucus system. But perception wise, Hillary got more votes. She wins
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:59 PM
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27. When you figure in caucuses, she actually lost the popular vote. If you don't understand that....
then you don't understand caucuses.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:00 PM
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29. The things that poster doesn't understand could fill a book.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:59 PM
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28. You're a political idiot
Hillary needs delegates. When the system changes and votes start electing nominees instead of delegates, then you will have a point. Right now you're grasping at straws.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:54 PM
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19. You can't lose a state when you walk away with more delegates.
Also, you apparently know NOTHING of VA politics or how you win elections. VA is a swing state on the verge of going blue. You can't win a national election without swing states. Blue states are going to vote democratic no matter what. Obama will win CA and NY comfortably. We need a candidate who can turn VA and GA and MD and WY blue. Thats the only way a democrat is getting back in the whitehouse.


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lmbradford Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:32 PM
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39. please tell me how...
if he got 98 delegates and she got 93 delegates, he is declared the loser? Texas has a 2-step process and the second step Obama won bigger than Hillary won step one. Therefore, he won. Please explain to me what I am missing. Aren't the delegates what the race is about?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:52 PM
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15. NY, NJ, Mass. Ohio and CA. - apparently all Democrats in these states
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:52 PM by Vinca
have pledged to vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't get the nomination. That's what you want us to think. Isn't there an outside chance Democrats will vote for any Democratic candidate rather than keep sending their kids to die in wars? This argument for Hillary is silly.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:53 PM
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17. SurveyUSA has Hillary losing Ohio to McCain, and Obama winning it against McCain.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:04 PM
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32. Ohio is an iffy state because the voting system is so corrupt.
I would actually think it more likely to go to McCain for that reason alone. (They own the machines after all.) At least Ken Blackwell is gone though - maybe that will make the chances of a fair election better.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:07 PM
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34. True, but according to SurveyUSA he can afford to lose Ohio and still win the election....
According to their polling Obama would win with over 300 electorals, while Hillary wins by 15.

Obama just has a better chance.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:10 PM
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36. Wow - I didn't realize that. Looking at the map, Ohio was the only
one that struck me that wouldn't necessarily go for Obama, only because of the Republican crime family.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:15 PM
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38. Lots of hipsters and AA's in Wyoming
:eyes:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:49 PM
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9. 2016
she'll be up against Jeb
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:51 PM
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11. Soon; really, really soon. ROFLMAO!
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:51 PM
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13. In less than a week she lost more ground to Obama, and this was suppose to be her comeback week.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:54 PM
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20. I know. helluva come back! lol... n/t
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:51 PM
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14. She has NEVER led the pledged delegate count since the primaries began
Why break with tradition now?
:rofl:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:54 PM
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21. I was getting ready to ask this question. I honestly think if
Hillary had lost NH, it would have been over by now. NH kept her in the race with a "comeback", and now she's touting OH as her comeback, even after losing 12 straight. TX should not have been counted as a win for her, not for a minute.

Now, she'll lose 2 more in a row, then we have to wait 6 weeks for her to flail about.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:56 PM
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24. After MS, she's going to have to win the remaining states with 100% of the vote
in order to be competitive.
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backtothefuture1999 Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:08 PM
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35. Don`t you get it?
All the states Obama wins doesn`t count... :sarcasm:
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