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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:33 PM
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Obama NOT Electable!
No candidate could withstand what's coming Obama's way...All it takes is for Obama's name to pop up a few more times in these documents and recordings and I think Obama will be finished politically. Won't matter if Obama knew about the wrongdoing or not.
I don't understand why so many of you ignore the ovious...Perception!


Look Before You Leap: Obamas Mobbed-Up Allies
By SusanUnPC on January 27, 2008 at 3:43 PM in Alexi Giannoulias, Barack Obama, Chicago politics, Tony Rezko

UPDATE x2: Theyre thick as thieves $$$: State Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias was last spotted trying to set up a Saturday morning basketball game in Las Vegas

so Barack Obama could loosen up on primary day . From Mike Sneeds column at the Chicago Sun-Times, Jan. 18, 2008

UPDATE: At the end of this story, Ive added an update showing the connection between the indicted Tony Rezko, who goes on trial Feb. 25 before Patrick Fitzgerald

and his U.S. Attorneys office in Chicago, and Alexi Giannoulias.

From the Chicago Tribune in its story, Critics: Obama endorsements counter calls for clean government: In the 2006 Democratic primary, for example, Obama

endorsed first-time candidate Alexi Giannoulias for state treasurer despite reports about loans Giannoulias family-owned Broadway Bank made to crime figures.

Records show Giannoulias and his family had given more than $10,000 to Obamas campaign, which banked at Broadway.

Thats Barack Obama endorsing granny grifter Alexi Giannoulias, who got elected as Illinois state treasurer with the hands-on support of Barack Obama. Besides his mob ties, Giannoulias was involved in an alleged mortgage fraud five years ago against an 83-year-old woman.



http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/27/look-before-you... /


<<snip>>

Add in the Iraq reconstruction connection when Rezko goes on trial for that, and I think it will be a very damaging picture of Obama's character and judgement. He won't survive Illinois politics and Patrick Fitzgerald.


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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:34 PM
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1. Thank you, Swift Boat DU-ers for Truth!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:37 PM
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6. fact...is NOT swiftboating...
!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:39 PM
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11. True. and there isn't a single fact in your desperate and pathetic
little post. I'm beginning to pity you.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:43 PM
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15. no...you are appearing desperate...
and..predictable.
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:08 PM
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41. Whereas you are appearing dishonest and outnumbered.
The "Rezko" scam won't fly in the news. The Chicago Sun-Times articles have massive holes in them, including
the fact that the newspaper's owner Conrad Black is in prison for fraud.

Obama's already been so continually lied about by so many news sources that everybody thinks
"Osama Obama" whenever one hears a new one, so even if the articles were true it will be difficult to sell as a story.
It's a dud story.

Now take the McCain infidelity story, and there's some intrigue.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:20 PM
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46. denial.
.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:58 AM
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50. Idiocy
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:40 PM
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12. Which is no doubt why you're staying as far away from truth as possible. nt
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. she joined in
August-like the rest of the Hillaroids-late comers to democracy
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:49 PM
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37. Oh be quiet with your nonsense.
.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:34 PM
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2. Hee Hee
:rofl:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:35 PM
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3. LOL.... ok, Indy.... Now... how long would your OP be if you listed all the
issues that Hillary has?


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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:36 PM
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4. What ever you say dear
:eyes:
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:36 PM
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5. Three words, Operation Safety Net, good luck with this whole line it wont hold water next week NT
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:38 PM
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8. Oh My, Someone Is Really Feeling Desperate nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:38 PM
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9. wishful thinking on your part, poor thing.
you desperate little hillybots are really losing it. There is absolutely nothing to the Giannoulis story and he's been cleared by Fitz in Rezco. You should be worrying about all the stories that are coming out about hilly and billy's filthy money,dear. She's the one who's unelectable- and she knows it. Why else do you think she's trying to hitch her broken down wagon to Obama?

Pathetic as always.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:39 PM
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10. YOU'RE RIGHT! THAT'S WHY HE'S WINNING!
LOL
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:44 PM
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16. Obama may very well win the nomination
but that little short stubby armed Gramps will whip the livin shit out of him in the GE. They will have the ratwing smear machine greased up and READY TO GO! Good luck.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. And you know they don't have decades of material ready to go
on Hillary. Whew! What a relief!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:57 PM
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19. oh but THAT"S OLD....
Obama's NEW...shiny and NEW!!! More interesting don't ya think...Mr.ALL THAT and some 'Change".. He promised he was different...special...ALL that IS~~~~
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. These posts just look like envy.
No substance, nothing. Just envy.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. because you DON'T read!
...?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. LOL!
:rofl:
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #22
32. how long did it take you to make that exciting creative little montage of yours?
:eyes:
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:39 PM
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31. Did time stand still in the year 2000?
Do you have any idea what the Billster has been up to since then? Trust me, the GOP does, and they are itching for Hillary to be the nominee so they can unleash it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:51 PM
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38. oh you poor dear
there's oodles of shiny new dirt on hilly and billy. And the Clinton duo are by far the favorite target of the pukes. do try and keep up.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:40 PM
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13. Jeez, even Rush Limbaugh knows she's losing and wants to keep her in to bloody up Barack.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 04:41 PM by AtomicKitten
Limbaugh thinks Hillary is doing a fine job using her own vile tactics against Barack. The wingnuts are more than happy to assist in that endeavor by voting for her in the Dem primary to keep her in to do their dirty work, but even the OxyContin-ridden brain of Limbaugh sees the writing on the wall:

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:41 PM
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14. Reminds me of how heartily I laughed yesterday, while watching Bill Maher...
... when Terry McAuliffe said, "You can't swiftboat Hillary Clinton!"

:rofl: :rofl:

And then his satellite feed got cut. :-)
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:53 PM
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17. Im so glad you Hillary supporters arent acting like neocons like your candidate is
Makes this place so harmonious.
:sarcasm:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:58 PM
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20. Hannity, why are you posting at DU?
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:05 PM
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23. Rush? You here too?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:07 PM
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25. Rezko is BS, this is real:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:10 AM
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52. New York loves Hillary
get over it.

(Actually - of course - plenty in NY do not. However your point is plain silly.
Clinton has plenty of support in NY - and elsewhere. And she will beat McCain and be a fine president.)
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:08 PM
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26. Obama beats Hillary, news at 11
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:16 PM
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27. Hillary = No tax records, Norman Hsu, Whitewater, Travelegate,
MORE PAC $ than the R's, Divisive, Polarizing, Scorched Earth scare tactice negative campaigning, will say or do anything to get votes,
and that's just for starters.
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Nexus7 Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:27 PM
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28. I wish an Obama supporter would have an adult response
Boy, reading these Obama-supporter replies (and not just in this thread) gives the impression they're latte-sipping neophytes - they have the put-downs pat, just like in high school. But of the facts, just regurgitated nonsense from whatever media lynching of Hillary they've watched most recently.

Regarding Rezko, it was for me suprising (as it was for Joe Conasan), that the Obama mob is going after her tax records. Firstly, she going to release them, and next, the Clintons have gone through $100M of investigations with one blow-job to show for it. And finally, are they trying to draw attention to the Rezko affair? I mean, that one is cut and dried, Obama bought property in a shady deal; in addition to the fund-raising stuff. Only a moron campaign would highlight this.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:36 PM
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29. But to give an adult response they would have to
act like adults and that isn't likely.



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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:42 PM
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34. Gold star for you! You hit all the talking points and even worked "latte" in there!
:thumbsup:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:38 PM
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30. Why bother? They aren't going to read it. Maybe an indictment will open their eyes!
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:40 PM by saracat
Some are still saying Obama didn't even "know " Rezko and he was his Senate Finnce Campaign Chair. But hey, he had a picture taken with Clinton so it is all "equal".
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:42 PM
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33. An indictment of who?
Lunacy has taken over!

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:43 PM
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35. Hsu, Rich, Burkle, Gupta......
Bill's been a busy boy since 2000. And he's had himself a few girlfriends too.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:43 PM
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36. You are so naive! No one, Hillary or Obama is perfect - but there is a LOT more out there on HRC!
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:55 PM by 1776Forever
Here are some interesting links for you to check out:

Hillary Clinton Pushes For More H1B Visas and outsourcings - on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs

Hillary's Ties to China and India Millionaires and what they have given her and Bill over the years.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B05E2DB...

And

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/11/clinton-lib...

As well as her Secrecy issue:

A Woman in Charge -- Hillary's Disturbing Secrecy Problem

By Arianna Huffington
June 25, 07

(snip)

But when it comes to the issue of secrecy and an administration operating in the shadows, there's an argument to be made that the candidate least likely to turn on the lights is Hillary Clinton. Her lifelong commitment to secrecy is one of the main themes of Bernstein's book.

"Hillary Rodham Clinton has always had a difficult relationship with the truth," writes Bernstein. "She has often chosen to obfuscate, omit, and avoid. It is an understatement by now that she has been known to apprehend truths about herself and the events of her life that others do not exactly share."

Or, as Bernstein summed it up on the Today Show, "This is a woman who led a camouflaged life and continues to."
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:55 PM
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39. OBAMA is more likely than Clinton to beat McCain
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:55 PM by powergirl
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/the-clinto...


"SurveyUSA has just released state-by-state results of a 30,000 respondent nation wide survey comparing Barack Obama's and Hillary Clinton's chances against John McCain.

"Bottom line: this data shows that Obama has the best chance to defeat McCain. In the simulated match-ups he beats McCain 280 to 258 electoral votes nationwide, and is very close in several additional key states that could significantly boost his margin of victory.

"Clinton beats McCain by 276 to 262 nationwide. But her margins in several key states are much thinner than Obama's and on balance, Obama substantially increases the number of states in play."


period

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:58 PM
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40. Must I cut and paste all the people associated with Clinton who
have been convicted of felonies? I've done it numerous times (not all of them, of course, too time consuming) and it's getting old . . . even for me. I think the newer (non philandering) scandals are more interesting at this point. If she's the candidate, the Swifties will seem like a Boy Scout troop.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:10 PM
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42. Maybe michelle and barack should look at the "holes in their
own souls" before they try to lay hands on the rest of us....We had this thing won until Obama wanted to "unite us".....He's done one hell of a job doing it...RIGHT?

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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:11 AM
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53. Trust me, no one wants to lay hands on you BD. In fact, everytime I see your posts I feel ill. n/t
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:13 PM
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43. Let McCain ask Obama about Rezko. We will ask McCain the following...
1. Keating 5
2. The War in Iraq
3. Cindy McCain stealing drugs from her charity. McCain got her off.
4. Long, long history of infedility.
5. We'll be in Iraq for a 100 years.
6. Selling out to George Bush in 2000
7. His deep, long-standing ties to lobbyists.

We've got more fodder than they do.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:17 PM
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44. k&r
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:19 PM
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45. Even Karl Rove has shut up with the up is down crappola
Give it a rest before you burst your spleen already :eyes:

Obama sure has a lot of people voting for him.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:36 AM
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47. probably right . . . but then, neither is Hillary . . .
"it's not who votes that counts; it's who counts the votes" . . .
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:52 AM
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48. Fols ain't guying it.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:55 AM
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49. Obamites like to say Hillary's campaign is dirty. So...has her campaign raised any of these points?
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 07:57 AM by Perry Logan
It seems like, if Hillary's campaign were really dirty, they would be pounding these points home and smearing Barack's good name all over the place. Just a logical thing...

Of course, we all know the people who say Hillary's campaign is dirty are a little daffy:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:04 AM
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51. Swift boaters for Hillary
When is Hillary going to release her tax forms?

When is Hillary going to endorse Rethug McCain over a dem candidate again?

When will the First Lady's White House records be released?

When will the donor list for the Clinton library be released?
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