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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:27 PM
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Clinton could have her Super Delegate Status Revoked.
Clinton is a Super Delegate to the Convention. According to the rules of the party, she could be challenged based on her statements that endorse McCain above Obama. If this is done, and approved by the DNC Rules Committee, she could be disqualified as a delegate.

For reference see the FDL article about Lieberman's status amd the Zell Miller rule: http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/06/lieberman-has-superde... /

And for the list of Super Delegates, see: http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-l...

All it takes is someone to file the case to the DNC...
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:28 PM
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1. So, go file a case
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:28 PM
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2. I was stunned when she made those comments; she all but endorsed him verbatim.
I wonder if she will be challenged.

:popcorn:

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:30 PM
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3. Who can file a case?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:30 PM
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4. Where's the application?
..to file the case?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:30 PM
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5. she did not endorse McCain over Obama
that's a complete lie.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:32 PM
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12. Then she shouldn't have anything to worry about, should she?
Maybe she can start walking that puppy backwards and deny she ever said it.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:34 PM
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15. Maybe you could reduce (or increase) your medication
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:56 PM
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45. How did this become a discussion about me and my health?
:shrug:

Is that all you got?

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:48 PM
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50. maybe you could read her what? four or five different statements
in which she says she and McCain have the experience and Obama doesn't. I suppose you don't call that an endorsement but people who can read do. Good thing Laura Bush isn't running. She has the same 'experience'.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:33 PM
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14. Care to explain?


:D
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:34 PM
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16. no. waste of time explaining ANYTHING to firebombers and bores
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:41 PM
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22. She made statements that ranked McCain above Obama. What if Obama wins the nomination?
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:30 PM
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6. The convention isn't DU.
Not many RL Democrats are sufficiently separated from reality that they would interpret her remarks as an endorsement of McCain.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:31 PM
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7. exactly
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:36 PM
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17. agreed...
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:31 PM
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8. I have been saying that for days. We need a petition
I think we should start a petition. Started working on it yesterday.

The letter of the rule in the DNC bylaws may or may not apply to what Clinton said. It says someone loses their superdelegate status if they endorse or "express support for the election of" someone in another party.

Clinton did not explicitly express support for McCain's election, but what she said could be considered an endorsement. The rule was put into place after Zell Miller went to the Republican National Convention and gave a speech in which he said, among other things, that George Bush was more qualified to be commander in chief than John Kerry.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:31 PM
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9. Brilliant!
That would flush whatever chances we have for party unity right down the toilet.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:31 PM
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10. Hillary - Tombstoned?!
:rofl:
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:30 PM
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43. She Disrupted Poorly. n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:58 PM
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46. lol
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jlpohio69 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:32 PM
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11. Sorry...she did not make an endorsement
Simply stated an opinion on McCain's experience...far from endorsing the man.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:39 PM
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18. She made statements that would have people going for McCain over Obama
What if Obama Wins the nomination?
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:39 PM
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20. She compared her experience to McCain's.
And made damn sure that she said Obama had a speech in 2002. She put the opponent over her own party candidate. Such loyalty......to a bush hugger.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:58 PM
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47. no she compared McCain's experience to Obama's
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:33 PM
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13. If there was a shred of truth in your charge the above ground Obama campaign
would be repeating it rather than having the underground Obama campaign spreading that lie like a virus to smear Clinton. Would you care to point me to a single spokesperson with the Obama campaign who is willing to back your assertion that Clinton endorsed McCain?
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:41 PM
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21. how else should this be read tommy boy?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:49 PM
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26. Read my replies to this thread, SoFlaJet palsy walsy
...if you honestly care what I think:

"An honest answer from HRC supporters on the McCain comments please?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

But you ducked my challenge, didn't you? The Obama campaign is very willing to call out Clinton when she behaves in a manner they think inappropriate. One would think they might find any Democrat endorsing the Republican candidate for President worthy of mention.

So where has the Obama campaign backed the lie you are spreading here? Give me just ONE link to any official Obama campaign spokesperson willing to say for the record that Clinton endorsed McCain for President.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:55 PM
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:44 PM
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25. She made statements that ranked McCain above Obama. What if Obama wins the nomination?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:50 PM
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28. If you feel what Clinton has said is honestly deplorable
than why do you need to spread a lie about it?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:54 PM
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30. Who is spreading a lie? What lie?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:22 PM
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36. The OP is a lie n/t
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:41 PM
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44. No, it's not.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:39 PM
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19. Texas delegates, too. All candidates have to affirm
their support of the final nominee. Kooch didn't and wasn't able to be on the ballot.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:43 PM
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23. That endorsement of the GOP candidate absolutely flabbergasted me - how can anyone defend it?
n/t.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:44 PM
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24. Need an Obama supporter with an account on DailyKos
PM me for more details.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:50 PM
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27. Question?
What happens to the SD if she gets it stripped from her? (I doubt that it would happen)

Does it cease to exist?

or

Does it get switched to someone else?


ps - I have tried to post this 2X's now and the internets are acting "funny"
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:53 PM
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29. Don't know for certain, but given that she's an SD and not just a D, I think her vote would be gone
No alternate.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:17 PM
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33. Thank you
everyday this process gets more and more strange
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:16 PM
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32. So could Obama.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 04:18 PM by cornermouse
I say let's go for it. :sarcasm:

Can't you find anything more intelligent to post?
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youknowmenotdlc Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:20 PM
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34. In essence she advocated for Mcain over her fellow Democrat
how is this in any way excusable?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:21 PM
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35. Oh that would be great!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:23 PM
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37. ROFLMAO!!!!!!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:25 PM
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41. Hey...
Isn't there such a disconnect from these people and reality?

I try to imagine living in a real world populated by these people, but the only place I can imagine that even vaguely reflects such delusions is a mental asylum.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:27 PM
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42. Threads like this one make DU look like a bunch of fucktards
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 04:28 PM by HughMoran
What a fcuking buffoon that idiot is.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:34 PM
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48. Only when Clintonites speak up.
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:13 PM
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53. I think they are laughing at the op.
oops - that's you!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:23 PM
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38. Since the only people who think she endorsed McCain are DU Obama supporters...
And since no one in the real world believes that she endorsed McCain...

She'll keep her SD status.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:24 PM
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39. Not going to happy
Come on...back to reality now.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:24 PM
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40. How Karmic if hilary ends up revolking
her own SuperD status and has to settle for on her own petard status.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:38 PM
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49. stop your whining n yapping and get your ass out n fork over the big $'s you have saved to do it
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 09:49 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:08 PM
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51. "Lieberman Has Superdelegate Status Stripped Because of McCain Endorsement"
Excellent idea. Maybe we should set up a petition? Or something?
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:11 PM
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52. Well that means that Obama should as well since he wants to grow up to be Ronald Reagan.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:17 PM
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54. k/r
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