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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:14 PM
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Wes Clark is DEAD TO ME NOW!
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 03:20 PM by nonconformist
I used to love and respect Wes Clark. He is, after all, an expert in foreign policy and national security. He is a brilliant man.

HOWEVER, now, his true self has been revealed:

Wes Clark is nothing but a Hillary-shilling hack. Fuck him. How DARE HE use his considerable experience and intelligence to question Obama. He's been fooling us all along, tricking us into instilling HILLARY as CIC.

Other people who are dead.to.me.

Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame. DEAD TO ME. What do they know, anyway? That's right, NOTHING. What possible insight could they have that your average media personality doesn't have? Weak little unimportant shills, the Wilsons are.

Paul Krugman. DEAD TO ME. HACK. Like he knows a damn thing about the economy. I know that he, along with the Wilsons, were some of the only people speaking out about Bush at one point, but it must have been just a big conspiracy. He must have been in cahoots with Wes Clark on that.

Just a handful of the other people who are DEAD TO ME:

Maya Angelou

Stephanie Tubbs Jones

Robert Kennedy Jr

Ann Richard's daughter

Roseanne Barr

Whoopi Goldberg

Chelsea Clinton

Jack Nicholson



And, most importantly, BILL CLINTON. DEAD TO ME. Wow, I finally realized that the right-wing was TOTALLY RIGHT about him and his little wife all along. If only I had listened then. What a shitty president he was.









See, two can play at that game: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:16 PM
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1. Automatically Makes Him A Hero
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:16 PM
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2. No doubt they feel really bad about the loss of you
delusions of grandeur?
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:17 PM
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5. Satire
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:21 PM
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15. If this is satire, then it wasn't done as well as the other Olbermann thread.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:21 PM
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17. Because it's more fact-based.
I used actual comments from Obama supporters on mine, instead of making a bunch of shit up.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:28 PM
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29. No you used people who endorsed Hillary
rather then on the Obama thread a list of people of whom a lot of the hillary supporters have been decrying because of their negative view of the clintons. but whatever its your dillusion right? where the obama thread had substance you just spew out what you think might get a few laughs.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:29 PM
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32. I had a bunch of links to threads, but I was advised to remove them
to keep the thread from getting locked.

But they're out there, oh yes.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:33 PM
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36. This is how you do satire ....
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 03:40 PM by Exilednight
Let me get on my soapbox, I do it once a week. After all this is vintage soapbox stuff. We have god, politics and money, and homosexuality.

Has anyone ever heard of restless leg syndrome? Its where you move your leg about in your sleep. Its awful, and you may have it. It may not keep you awake at night, it might not harm you in any way, probably wont harm you in the slightest. Nonetheless its awful the pharmaceutical companies have deemed it so. So they developed a drug and you simply must take it.

If you havent of restless leg syndrome, you probably have attention deficit disorder. We have a lot of drugs for that one, you must take them.

Jenny, you looked depressed.
Alex, youre not sleeping enough.
Gretchen, you think youre shy, but you actually have Social Anxiety Disorder.
Mark, you say you have a weak stream when you urinate.
Joseph, Irritable bowel syndrome you say?

You have all kinds of ailments you dont know about. Luckily we have pills for all of them. Theres actually a pill that helps you forget, you can take that to forget that you even had restless leg syndrome, or irritable bowels.

That brings us to same sex attraction disorder. Wow what a fancy name, it even makes it sound official. What troubles me is why havent the pharmaceutical companies made a pill to cure you of it?

Clearly they are in the business of selling sickness, if there were a profit to be made they would make it. With an estimated gay population of 10 million in the US alone, there is surely a market for it.

Could it be that they cant cure it?

Well not to worry, if big pharmaceutical cant, then most certainly big religion can.

Well big religion is trying; after all they are the ones who coined the term same sex attraction disorder- thats a very good name. Its important to give it a good name. Its the first step in disqualifying homosexuals as a segment of the population and telling them that they have a disease.

It makes homosexuals look less like people, and more like a bad case of the flu. It has terrible and awful symptoms, but nonetheless the Evangelical church say it is curable.

Never mind that one of the Presidents most trusted spiritual advisers was himself caught in a homosexual relationship, or that a republican congressman was writing naughty e-mails to an underage male page- I was told it was curable- at least thats what they told me down at the church.

Well you can legislate against it, you can go home to your wife and pretend that it feels right, you can join a convent and take a vow of celibacy, you can give it a clever name and treat people for it, you can drive around on a Saturday night with a baseball bat and try and beat it out of some poor soul,

Only in America, only in a country that overtly and notoriously celebrates its prejudice by proposing constitutional amendments against a class of people to limit their freedoms.

God Bless us all- Home of the brave- Shame on you

I hope the churches that are attempting to cure this offers a money back guarantee, and throw in a blender as a parting gift.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:23 PM
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24. satire requires some level of expertise
The Olberman thread was really well thought out
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:36 PM
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62. And sometimes it requires a modicum of wit just to discern.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 04:42 PM by 11 Bravo
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:35 PM
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61. Ummm ... did you actually read the post?
I suppose for your sake I should hope not.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:16 PM
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3. Wes Clark is great just on the other side for a while... no biggie
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:34 PM
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59. Just emotional as it sunk in, I am not going to be VP
If Hillary keeps wanting to be Obama's VP and maybe that will make him mad and turn on her.

She learned alot sliming fish, the only ex
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:17 PM
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4. Whoopi Goldberg voted for Obama
Sometimes a remake is unnecessary. That is why no one ever filmed a remake of Casablanca. bvar22 gave us a masterpiece, it is best left alone.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:19 PM
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11. No she didn't. She switched to Hillary.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:22 PM
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19. She voted for Obama
She announced on The View the day after the NY Primary.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:28 PM
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31. There is also videotape of Whoopi sttaing that she voted
for Hillary. On Huffington Post.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:31 PM
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35. O.K., I stand corrected.
n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:18 PM
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6. Wes Clark is a great American
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 03:24 PM by bigtree
and, you put Maya Angelou on your list?

nonconformist, YOU are responsible for your own actions, not some thread you read.

This must be a joke . . . why do I waste time on this?
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:18 PM
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7. This thread has the stink of plagiarism,
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 03:19 PM by Big Blue Marble
How cute. How about using your own creativity instead of
stealing from others.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:18 PM
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8. Fuck you and your Democratic hate mongering
Go back to Freekrepublic where you belong.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:18 PM
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9. Check your PM....pronto.
And K.R
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:18 PM
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10. all very true - but on DU only Obama walks on water posts get appreciated by large numbers
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:23 PM
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23. Doesn't Hillary dot com have a blog where you can gush unimpeded by reality?
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:19 PM
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12. I'm sure Wes Clark is just sitting around worrying about what you think
Because what you think is soooo fucking important ti the agenda :sarcasm:
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:22 PM
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18. It's satire.
It's sad I have to explain that. I adore Wes.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:19 PM
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13. Roseanne is voting for Hillary?
Cool! Another reason to like Hillary.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:20 PM
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14. This would be funnier satire if most pro-Obama Clarkies weren't saying the opposite.
But it's still kinda cute.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:25 PM
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26. Yeah, that's the thing. It's the Clinton folks who are shunning liberal icons.
The only person on that list that I would say I no longer respect is Paul Krugman. And that's only because he didn't just come out and say he was supporting Clinton. He pretended to be an Edwards guy, while parroting all of Hillary's talking points and bashing Obama.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:28 PM
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30. I haven't shunned anyone.
You won't find a single comment of mine degrading any of the high profile people who are backing Obama. But if you think Obama people aren't shunning liberal icons, you should read about the board more. Clark and Wilson in particular have been the victims of some really VILE shit.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:39 PM
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39. Get a load of some of the stuff the Clinton people were saying about Randi Rhodes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Randi is a HUGELY popular progressive radio host. Whatever was said about Clark and Wilson is probably nothing compared to the disgusting comments made by Hillary supporters here. Mocking her for an accident she had, suggesting it was because she's an alcoholic. I'll tell ya, these Faux Feminists For Hillary are really something else. They'll defend their Queen's honor to the death, but have no qualms about sliming other women.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:42 PM
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41. I don't condone any of that.
However, Randi is popular but she has always had TONS of people on here that disagreed with her on certain points and her tactics, for years. She was never at the level of a liberal icon as Wes Clark and Joe Wilson were.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:58 PM
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44. Oh, so sliming her isn't as bad then. Wilson and Clark are more "important".
Thanks for clearing that up for me. :eyes:
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:02 PM
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48. My point is that Randi has always had her detractors on DU
I'm not one of them, but she has. Sliming and insulting Clark and Wilson, however, is new territory for DU.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:18 PM
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52. That is true.
Randi Rhodes has always had a lot of DUers that can't stand her. I don't listen to her show but I love it when she's on tv bashing the hell out of republicans.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:26 PM
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54. Oh, I see, that's the standard.
Randi's fair game for sliming because some people here already didn't like her, but Wilson and Clark are sacrosanct. :eyes:

And I'd still like you to demonstrate where anything that was said about those guys held a candle to the awful things that were said about Randi.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:34 PM
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58. Here
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:48 PM
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66. A cursory glance at the headlines
Leads me to conclude that neither Wilson, Clark, nor Krugman will be characterized as nasty, falling down drunks. It looks like they are being criticized (admittedly sometimes stidently) for their opinions but not being attacked personally in the disgusting manner that Ms. Rhodes was.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:27 PM
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70. Well, a "cursory glance at the headlines" doesn't let you see the comments
And yes, they were attacked personally. Comments like "fuck YOU, Wes" aren't exactly reasoned criticism.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:30 PM
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71. It's not calling him a drunkard and mocking him for a terrible accident either.
I've seen more kindness shown to GWB toward his alleged drinking problem than what was shown to Randi. By so-called feminists.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:21 PM
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16. Roseanne, Whoopi, Nicholson???
Now those are the ones whom I always turn to for advice. :rofl:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:23 PM
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21. Excellent Point n/t
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:23 PM
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22. No, but they've been torn apart here.
But some of those people, like Clark and the Wilsons, especially, are people I trust.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:29 PM
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56. That's what they call Argument from Authority.
It's a logical fallacy. Clark and Wilson are not incapable of being wrong.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:59 PM
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45. Yet the OP just told me that Randi Rhodes is not a liberal icon. nt
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:00 PM
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46. No, I didn't.
I said she doesn't have the same respect and caliber in the Democratic party as Wes Clark and Joe Wilson have, and that's true.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:15 PM
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51. Well She Sure The Hell Should
She is far more liberal than either one. Neither Clark nor Wilson have been Democrats for long and they certainly aren't liberals. I respect their speaking up when it counted and being good Americans but they can't compare to Rhodes in the good progressive department.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:27 PM
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55. Whoopi, Roseanne, and Jack Nicholson too?
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:32 PM
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57. No, not at all.
They're just a few people that have been slammed on here for daring to not support Obama.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:35 PM
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60. But, but, they're not Important Democratic Icons like Wilson and Clark so...
...wait...I'm confused! Is it okay to slime the lesser icons or not?
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:36 PM
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63. When did I EVER say it was okay?
In fact, I think I said pretty clearly that I don't condone that and I don't take part.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:49 PM
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67. And then pointed out that Randi was already disliked and wasn't as big an icon. nt
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:22 PM
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20. This thread: Change you can Xerox
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:24 PM
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25. I don't think we can demand all good people think as we do? Clark was the likely VP
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 03:33 PM by mzmolly
pick for Hillary Clinton. I just realized this is tit for tat.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:26 PM
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27. Copycat satire doesn't really work does it.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:26 PM
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28. This post reminded me of that Fox News hit program The 30 minute News Hour
or something like that. Remember that show?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:30 PM
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33. Um, YAWN
:boring:

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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:30 PM
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34. Good post!
Makes its point well.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:35 PM
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37. Wonderful post!
But, the Messianic followers are not pleased! :rofl:
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:38 PM
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38. Ann Richards
Ann Richards' two sons are not dead to me.

Side note: Ann Richards is dead to all of us


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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:40 PM
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40. So why do Barney Frank, George McGovern, and UFW Co-Founder Dolores Huerta deserve to live?
They should be dead to you also.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:45 PM
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42. Ahh yes, you are correct.
In my haste (because I actually should be doing something else, blasphemy) to get this posted, I neglected several other prominent people that are sooo dead.to.me.

;)
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:37 PM
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64. Hell no! Neocon shitweasels, the whole bunch of them!
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:50 PM
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43. Additional side note
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 03:50 PM by yourguide
The following people have always been dead to me:


Roseanne Barr

Whoopi Goldberg



Jack Nicholson has been dead to me since "As Good As It Gets"



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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:01 PM
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47. Some DUers are really
sarcasm impaired.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:14 PM
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49. I respect all these people .... I disagree with their politics right now
Maya Angelou is a good friend of the Clinton's. She's also a good friend of Oprah's. Things must be
uncomfortable for her right now. She's still a brilliant woman who is one of my favorite writers.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:15 PM
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50. Wes Clark was never all that alive to me in the first place...
:shrug:

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:21 PM
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53. Don't forget about Larry Johnson. nt
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:38 PM
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65. You forgot Maxine Waters. nt
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:50 PM
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68. I never liked any of those ppl you listed except the Clintons...
So who cares?
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:51 PM
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69. You used to respect rosanne barr?
wow your bar is incredibly low.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:33 AM
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72. Not me. As a late-term Obama supporter, I wholly agree with Wes Clark's opinion ...
... that Hillary's vote for the Iraq/AUMF resolution was a vote "to give George W. Bush a blank check to go to war." (link)

This is why I supported Clark in 2004, and am now supporting Sen. Obama. Too bad Wes' Arkansas political ties require him to get behind the candidate most contrary to his own previously stated position.
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73. p.s. That's kind of a weak "dead to me" list. Jack Nicholson? Really? n/t
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