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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:06 PM
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YAY! I heard Hillary will have LOST a net of 3 delegates from her "big win" in TX!
Of course, that means she LOST TX. It's not a primary and a caucus, it's a prima-caucus, and the totals get COMBINED to find the winner. I'm sure people remember Bill Clinton telling voters, "It's all on you..." telling them TX is the only place it's legal to vote twice, and he needs them to go caucus after they vote. Looks like they didn't do that, so his wife didn't win!:

"All Things Considered, March 6, 2008 New York Sen. Hillary Clinton has claimed victory in the Texas primary but her rival, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, may walk away with a greater share of the state's delegates.

That's because the Texas contests are actually both a primary and a caucus.

Clinton won the primary with 51 percent of the popular vote to Obama's 47 percent, according to the Associated Press. Those results earned her 65 delegates to Obama's 61 delegates.

But allocating delegates in the Lone Star State takes a "Texas two-step." After the polls closed, more than 1 million Texans also attended caucuses, the results of which determine how about one-third of the state's delegates get awarded.

The state Democratic Party estimates that Obama will come out ahead: 37 pledged delegated to Clinton's 30 delegates. But the official tally of the Texas caucus won't be ready for months."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=87...

(Just a little perspective for all the Hillary supporters belittling Obama's win today in WY). :hi:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:07 PM
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1. Even Tweety said the results of TX would be "determined by the spin". Evidently, the
networks have decided the Spin is In for Clinton.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:11 PM
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3. I heard that! Yet he's spinning it as a "restart" of the race. Of course, it's NOT.
But they want this to go as long as possible.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:28 PM
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8. They can spin their
fucking mediawhore heads off..facts are freakin' facts.

Obama will get the word out on the ground as before.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:08 PM
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2. Wow, they could engineer two Bush "wins"
but they couldn't figure out how to make Obama lose???? This guy is unstoppable!

GOBAMA!!!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:14 PM
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4. Yup. Also, here's an article saying how Hillary was trying HARD in WY!
"But Clinton threw some effort into Wyoming, perhaps hoping for an upset that would yield few delegates but considerable buzz and momentum. The New York senator campaigned Friday in Cheyenne and Casper. Former President Clinton and their daughter, Chelsea, also campaigned this week in the sprawling and lightly populated state."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080308/ap_on_el_pr/wyoming...

Guess all her "momentum" and efforts didn't work! :D
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:33 PM
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13. She loses when she loses and she loses when she wins.
Just like all the other pukes.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:36 PM
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17. And she'll lose the nomination.
The SDs aren't going to fall for her BS tactics and the media spin.
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:16 PM
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5. There was no way the Rush Republicans could have done the caucus
They could easily vote during the day, in a a private conspiratorial way. But Im sure there was no way many of those same people could do it face to face with others with conviction. There just arent that many good liars( even republicans )
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:23 PM
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6. OR they didn't want to use that much effort on her. Either way, it proved the reason she won
was thanks to those Rush Repubs.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:32 PM
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11. I wonder how many rush repukes are in
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 04:01 PM by zidzi
the rest of the states if there're anymore open primaries?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:34 PM
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16. Well, PA is closed, but I'm sure they'll rear their ugly heads again. Laura Ingraham was
bragging about it on Faux a couple nights ago!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:26 PM
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7. hilary's too damn vacuous to know there
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 03:48 PM by zidzi
was a two parter to the Texas primary. They thought they were going to cake walk away with the whole enchilada on Feb 5 Super Tues.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:31 PM
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10. I don't believe that for a second. I think she knows EXACTLY what's really
going on and that it's a TWO-part election with ONE final result. But since SHE won the primary PART of it, she and the media claimed she won the TX election.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:49 PM
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20. That's true...hilary's lying..and the m$$$m
are lapping it up 'cause it's their freakin' meal ticket.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:57 PM
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23. Yup.
:hi:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:57 PM
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24. Right, but remember, she was pre-spinning the caucus segment as corrupt...
... weeks before Texas. The head of the Texas Democratic Party had to expose potential lawsuits just to get the Clinton team to stop strong-arming him. Three weeks ago, the Clinton team was openly admitting they didn't "understand" the Two-Step.

They spun the caucus section of the Two-Step as corrupt long before it happened, leading the media narrative on a leash.
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blocker Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:30 PM
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9. SO MUCH FOR THE COMEBACK KID!!!!
LOL
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:32 PM
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12. Yup! And she thought she could maybe pull an upset in WY with her "new status" which leaves
her in pretty much the same position as BEFORE her "huge wins."
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:34 PM
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14. Sweeeeeeeeeeet!!!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:37 PM
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18. YES WE CAN! I mean, yes it is!
:hi:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:34 PM
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15. Oh, rules don't matter!
Don't you know she is above rules? Obama WON TEXAS. The delegates are divided between the primary vote and the caucus vote. The TOTAL determines the winner. Those are the RULES she ignores.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:38 PM
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19. Exactly. I emailed the cable news shows asking them why their PRE-TX explanations
of how the "prima-caucus" works didn't hold when talking about the RESULTS of it.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:51 PM
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21. He gained +12 delegates this week on her with the Ohio and RI
wins. He got another bunch of delegates from the unassigned and of course more from Wy. and another state gone.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:53 PM
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22. And this was a GOOD week.
By Hillogic, that is.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:58 PM
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25. GOOD! I'm glad the SDs aren't falling for the Clinton/media spin. n/t
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