YAY! I heard that BO will net 2 delegates from his great Wyoming win!

[MoonRiver]

...

BO wins the sparsely populated, Repuke states. HRC wins the big swing states!

[Maddy McCall]

1. Congrats, Obama supporters from Wyoming!

Are there any?

[MoonRiver]

9. The totals from caucuses indicate less than 3,000 voted.

Don't know how many Dems went to caucus, but that's a pretty low count.

[TAWS]

21. Low turnout? Only a couple hundered voted in 2004!

[PM7nj]

24. once again...

that is not the popular vote...

haven't we gone through this with EVERY caucus so far?

[bicentennial_baby]

28. Yes, we have!

It's Washington all over again.

[VolcanoJen]

85. Jesus

[sniffa]

29. I was wondering who would be the first Hillbot to say that

[tammywammy]

37. Some people never learn

[jefferson_dem]

26. Actually, Barack will walk away with a net gain of 3 (8-5).

...

In a sense, Wyoming gets 13, because Wyoming gets 1 "add-on" delegate. People think of the add-ons as superdelegates, but the reality is in caucus states the add-ons are picked by a vote of the state convention, so whoever wins the caucus wins the add-on. Moreover, the add-ons are vetted by the candidates every bit as heavily as pledged delegates to ensure commitment at the convention. Whoever wins the most delegates in caucus states gets the add-on.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/8/61411/81462/867/...

[ElsewheresDaughter]

127. nope 7 -5

[susankh4]

77. 3000? The excitment seems to be wearing off, eh?

Obama is starting to look more like "politics as usual."

[Inuca]

86. Oh God....

these are DELEGATES!!!!! Not the actual number of people that voted. The comments I heard earlier was that the turnout was huge. But you probably expect many millions in a state with ~half a million total population. If people did not move to WY just to vote, it means that "The excitment seems to be wearing off, eh?"

[susankh4]

89. 3000 delegates?

Wow! That was some caucus!! It will put them both over 2025!!

[JackORoses]

94. county delegates. read up on how a caucus works before you criticize it

[ElsewheresDaughter]

129. 319 delegates will attend the WY state convention NOT 3.000 nor 7, 000 as some nitwits are posting

[Frank Booth]

106. You've never spent any time in Wyoming, have you?

Because if you had, you'd realize what an accomplishment it is to get that many Democrats to show up for a caucus.
You can literally drive for an hour in Wyoming and not come across a single Democrat (or any other person, for that matter).

Anyway, how does it make your candidate look better by mocking the number of votes that Obama got, when your candidate got 20% fewer?

[stevenleser]

108. That is not the vote count.

Nice try though

[jbnow]

111. Hey, that's not fair

to be impatient with them for making the same mistakes over and over. Remember Clinton supporters are less educated.

[Andy823]

125. Hmmmm

Check out this link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23523885 /


Barack Obama 5,378 61%

Hillary Clinton 3,312 38%

Uncommitted 63 1%


100% of precincts reporting


Looks like more than 3,000 to me.

[L0oniX]

14. Wyoming ...just another state that doesn't count. n/t

[WyLoochka]

90. We worked out butts off

We usually get 18 or 20 at our caucus in Park County. Today we got 334. Obama 63%. Clinton 37%

[GoldieAZ49]

103. Delegates awarded: Obama 7 of 12 available, Hillary gets 5

Turnout of over 7000 people, last election they had a turnout of 700

[NightWatcher]

2. how many delegates did Hillary net in her win last week?

[Yael]

36. 5

Ohio +9
Texas -6
Rhode Island +5
Vermont -3

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660914

[NightWatcher]

52. I cant count, is Hillary winning yet?

time to stick a fork in her, she's done

[Yael]

Well, he has 2 SDs in WY, 3 yet to declare, 1 yet to be named

and just picked up more than 5 delegates in California: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

With the 2 from the caucus, that puts her DOWN by another net 4-8

[ElsewheresDaughter]

130. super delegate count so far......

Superdelegate Comparison

Clinton
DCW 243

CNN 238

CBS 245

AP 242

Obama
DCW 203

CNN 199

CBS 201

AP 210

Updated 3/7/2008

[NDambi]

92. No way...not a fork in her..she's so done, you can use a SPOON

[OhioBlue]

113. no kidding and she had confetti and acted like she just won

the nomination. How embarrassing for her.

[ctaylors6]

3. I thought he was winning caucuses by a large margin. How are delegates apportioned?

[MoonRiver]

20. I heard a Wyoming caucus person say there are 12 delegates.

She stated that BO will get 7, and Hillary 5.

[cali]

55. bwahahaha. Hilly nets 5 out of mini tuesday

she won a whole 3 more pledged delegates than Obama out of the week and he got 9 more SD delegates this week, meaning he got 6 more delegates than poor wittle hilly this week.

[americanstranger]

74. And there is an 'add-on' delegate that goes to the winner.

http://www.wyomingdemocrats.com/ht/d/sp/i/1015876/pid/1...

Net, 3.

- as

[Starbucks Anarchist]

4. And Hillary is still 100+ PDs behind.

No, she can't!

[joshcryer]

32. Unique username. :)

[Spider Jerusalem]

128. 155.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/...

[Hailtothechimp]

5. I live in Illinois, which is NOT sparsely populated OR Repuke.

Wanna try again?

[XemaSab]

30. Not to mention Washington, California, Minnesota, New York, Texas, Vermont

and about 10 other states that aren't either "Big Swing States" or "Shitty Little Red States" won and lost for both candidates.

[amborin]

72. huh?

[XemaSab]

87. I'm saying that both Hillary and Obama have won a diverse variety of states

She won Oklahoma, he won Washington state, she won Rhode Island, he won Iowa.

It's not as simple as the red/blue/big/little/swing/solid model that certain folks want to push here.

[Lucky 13]

70. Or Vermont, Maryland and DC n/t

[XemaSab]

6. And Hillary's that much further behind

[TahitiNut]

67. Well, Hillbots just don't have a taste for sour grapes, I guess.

Yeah ... she's really outfoxing Obama. Aesop would be proud.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

131. ahh but, she's ahead in super delegates..........

Super delegate Comparison

Clinton

DCW 243

CNN 238

CBS 245

AP 242

Obama

DCW 203

CNN 199

CBS 201

AP 210

Updated 3/7/2008

[tekisui]

7. 7 more, great!! When he picks up 278 more Pledged or Supers,

Hillary cannot mathematically win, even with the SUpers. Counting it down....

[DJ13]

8. Whoo! Thats only slightly less than Hillary's "resounding wins" in THREE states on Tuesday!

[Medusa]

22. Her "resounding" wins left her with no mathematical possibility

of even coming close to Obama's delegate count. It's his babies. So go ahead and do your crying now--or wait until later. The Obama fans will get the last laugh. Perhaps your free time would be better spent pursuing your GED's?

[DJ13]

27. So go ahead and do your crying now

Pssstttt........

Im a fellow Obama supporter.

[PM7nj]

10. yea, they're not REAL Americans!

who cares what these FAKE Americans have to say!

[featherman]

11. It's all about the delegates... welcome Wyoming

Of course how many delegates Obama will actually gain from WY is as yet unclear. The OP provides no link.

[jefferson_dem]

12. Well done, PetRock! You're parroting the "WY doesn't count" meme like a good little Hillbot...

Your gal would be proud. I give you a !

[AX10]

13. Great!

[Zachstar]

15. And you dumbasses think they will vote for Clinton come November with that kind of attitude?...

Take your bullshit elseware. You are directly aiding a republican win in November by alienating a state.

[Growler]

40. Agreed

[ossman]

16. Big Swing states like NY and CA and NJ!!

Any Dem is going to Win CA NY NJ moron.


But you are right about PA. After Hillary slimes Obama for 7 weeks he will lose PA to McCain in 08.

Thanks Hill!

[MoonRiver]

34. Oh, yeah, I forgot that she wins the OTHER big states too!

Thanks for the reminder!

[Nitrogenica]

17. For some reason, my enthusiasm for Clinton is in a tailspin.

Hmmm

[Colobo]

18. You sound like a desperate Hillarite... and you are!

[Renew Deal]

19. Hillary went from needing 62% of the rest of the delegates to 63%

1 step closer to the end.

[XemaSab]

39. It's like the RACK

1% doesn't sound like that much more until your arms are dislocated.

[angie_love]

23. Awesome! Ticking off the 4 that Hillary won on Tuesday. NICE!!

[surfin]

45. Hillary lost big time last week both in states and delegates

I have Obama gaining 12 and four more states gone. It may be even more with the unassigned delegates he got. I am counting the calif delegates he picked up and all the delegates from Tuesday.

Sad the press does not report this.

[Lucinda]

25. If that's correct then the Obama camp won't be too happy.

Maybe that's why the both took a down day today?

[anigbrowl]

42. Yep, Obama just hates winning, but he can't stop himself.

See you in Mississippi!

[Lucinda]

66. If she's held him to a 2 delegate gain, it's really not great news.

It gives his supporters a great boost, and gives him some spin, but it isn't really good news at this stage of the game.

[Bill McBlueState]

134. ???

At this stage, I'd think Clinton would be happy only by gaining delegates, not by minimizing Obama's gains. She's got a lot of catching up to do.

[AtomicKitten]

31. Obama won more delegates than Ms. Flick did in Texas and Nevada.

[Window]

64. LMAO!

[NDambi]

95. lmao priceless...n/t

[surfin]

33. When he wins he gains, Hillary wins a state and lose delegates

NY is suppose to add soon more delegates to Obama. California gave him a lot this week. Unassigned has thrown in more.

You forget, not only he picks up 2 to 4 more delegates but another state is gone. Time has run out but they will play dirty tricks and may do something to stop him.

[amborin]

35. a Wyoming win is nearly useless

Wyoming is solidly RED

so, some folks vote for Obama in the primary, so....

Wyoming is not even a swing state

bottom line:

only Hillary wins crucial big swing states and crucial big Dem states

fact Obama has won a bunch of solidly republican little states means zip in the GE

[jefferson_dem]

43. Wrong-o. CO, VA, MO are three "HUGH" swing states Obama has won...and come to mind.

Try again?

[XemaSab]

50. Yeah, 'cause there's no way California and New York

are going to support a democrat in November.

[verges]

120. Maybe you haven't noticed,

but this was a primary. Not the GE. The person who gets the most delegates wins the nomination.

The GE is after this process. But before you get to the GE, you have to have a candidate. The primaries choose this candidate. Therefore, delegates are important.

Cart before horse.

[scheming daemons]

38. That's more than Hillary's -3 delegates out of her Texas "win"...

...

How'd that turn out for ya?

[DUyellow]

46. LOL

[bigtree]

41. I'm going to bed

[madaboutharry]

44. I have a question:

When you were a kid did you stick bubblegum in other kids' hair? I think I remember you.

[krawhitham]

47. and how many did HRC net last Tuesday?

[THUNDER HANDS]

48. swing states like Missouri, Wisconsin, Iowa?

[foo_bar]

49. what ever happened to "BIG MO"?

But the fact is that Hillary Clinton is ahead. Many Obama supporters refuse to accept this fact. That's all.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Obama has won ONE out of three competitive primaries/caucuses.

Hillary Clinton has won TWO of three competitive primaries/caucuses. Obama is behind Clinton in terms of primaries/caucuses (delegates will be awarded at a later date and are IRRELEVANT right now).

What about this first grade arithmetic is incomprehensible to some?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[bluestateguy]

51. Let me give you some advice

Back when I was in high school, I went to a lot of football and basketball games. The basketball team, in particular, was a very winning team (state champions the year after I graduated). On the rare occasion that one of our players threw an airball, the other team's fans would yell "Air-ball, Air-ball!", even when they were losing by 20 points! So our fans would yell back "Scoreboard! Scoreboard!", as we pointed to the scoreboard.

Lesson: Don't gloat when you are losing!!!

[gristy]

53. Oh, yes, you are right. This is so meaningless.

I am going to be depressed the rest of the day now. Not. Have you ever visited Wyoming? Do you degrade the folks in that fine state in person like you do here? If so, how many times have you been beat up?

[bridgit]

54. Zippity doo-dah, zippity eh, O'bam-ma people have a wonderful day!!

0,1,2,3 Zippity Eh!!!

[IsItJustMe]

56. One more state goes for Obama. One more reason why he will be our nominee. It's the accumulative

thing you know.

[BumRushDaShow]

57. Way to insult your fellow Democrats in Wyoming!

This is why the party keeps losing presidential elections. It's the DLC strategy to insult as many of the true base as they can no matter where they live while focusing on a few DLC-infested states.

[madrchsod]

62. real democrats do not vote for obama

they only vote for hillary

[rndmprsn]

58. thanks...clintons lost TX just so you know =]

[adoraz]

59. dumb thing to say

every delegate matters. Clinton needs to win everywhere by huge margins. she can't let Obama win anywhere.

when will some of you realize that Obama's path to the nomination is due to these smaller states?

downplay it all you want, but it just makes it that much harder for her to win now.

Its not losing 2 delegates, its really like losing a lot more considering she needs to win by huge margins in every state with no exceptions.

another big loss for Hillary.

[rodeodance]

60. Congrats to BO. But not the 'huge blowout" so many here yipped about.

[Yael]

63. 60/40 isn't a blowout?

[THUNDER HANDS]

65. not if Obama is the one with the 60, on the other hand 55-45 is an epic slaughter

if Hillary has the 55.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

68. !

Nicely put!

[madrchsod]

69. she could catch up any minute...still at 78%

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23523885
Wyoming - State Results- msnbc.com

then again she may not....this state does`t count!

[rodeodance]

75. is that the final?

[Yael]

84. No. They are holding back all of her winning caucuses for the 6pm news hour

[NDambi]

100. Ha Ha..you guys are fuckin' hilarious

[NDambi]

99. It was a blow out...19% same will happen in Miss

[Yael]

122. My bad. Finals are in and it is 61/38

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/stat...

[Yael]

61. Looks like she will lose Texas by about 6

Sucks to be her.

[rodeodance]

76. too bad all the headlines across the USA had her winning 3:1. It was stand as such.

[Warren DeMontague]

83. So the truth doesn't matter?

[rodeodance]

109. perceptions matter--get it!!

[JackORoses]

116. perceptions only matter to idiots like you who don't no the war ended

the SuperDelegates are looking at the delegate count.

Now Hillary would have to win 60% of the rest of the delegates just to catch up.

Ready for Tuesday?

[Inuca]

117. How typical

and sad

[Warren DeMontague]

136. Right. Like, at the beginning of the campaign, when her brain trusts thought that if they

told everybody (in lieu of making an actual case to people to vote for her) often enough that the nomination was as good as hers, that she was automatically entitled to the it, and she would inevitably win it, the reality (and us members of the Democratic base) would obediently fall in line.

So... how'd that work out for ya?

[NDambi]

101. Headlines mean more, or does delegates mean more...Hill is so done, you can spoon her up like soup..

[yourguide]

71. HOORAH!!!

Now all you guys have to do is get 146 more delegates just to get caught up!!!


WHOOOOPIE!!!!!

[polichick]

73. We're thrilled with EACH ONE of our delegates!!!

[Kukesa]

80. You betcha we are! n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

78. Your point is pretty pathetic.

Every delegate counts and frankly, Wyoming's delegates are just as important as the delegates from California and every other state. They're no different and they don't mean any less.

Look at this way: Let's pretend Hillary and Obama are NBA teams battling for the final playoff spot. Right now Obama is up 5 games on Clinton with not many left to play. For Clinton to overtake Team Obama, she'll need him to start losing games. Now you might say Wyoming is a small, insignificant state, but winning there only helps keep Obama ahead of Clinton.

Each win from here on out is important and even 1-2 delegates could be the big difference in who gets in and who doesn't. Right now, Clinton is looking from the outside in and if she continues losing, it'll stay that way.

[Jennicut]

79. Wyoming counts just like ALL the states count

Then again, I guess you don't believe in democracy.

[stray cat]

81. Why is Hillary behind in delegates?

Ohio is the only big swing state Clinton has one right? Obviously CA and NY are not swing states. Of course IL, GA, MS, IA, MN, WI are kind of important swing states.

[Sulawesi]

82. See, this is a perfect example...How can an HRC supporter come on and mock the gain of two from WY,

when she just lost 2 from "winning" Texas.

Seriously, it is this kind of unthinking BS that leaves me scratching my head...

[Hippo_Tron]

88. Because winning Massachusetts is so impressive...

Even McGovern won there.

[Cali_Democrat]

91. At this point Hillary needs these delegates

Obama is making the math even more difficult for Hillary. I wonder what Hillary supporters would be saying if they won Wyoming

[Arkana]

93. Right, I forgot that HUGE delegate gain Hillary got on Tuesday.

What was it? Like a whole 4-5 delegates?

[madrchsod]

96. she still has a chance!

Obama led 58 percent, or 4,077 votes, to Clinton's 41 percent, or 2,756 votes, with 20 of 23 counties reporting.

3 have`t reported! she`s still going to pull an upset!

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jv_iErhSo7qRA5nI3OT2...
The Associated Press: Obama Leads Clinton in Wyoming Caucuses

[NDambi]

102. Ya Think?

[slinkerwink]

97. you forgot that Obama also wins those big states in the GE election polls

[usregimechange]

98. Like Bellweather MO and Colorado...

[Upton]

104. If Hillary had won Wyoming

it would be touted by Clinton supporters as an example of her continuing momentum. Now, as you have demonstrated, they'll just have to revert to the same old excuses.

[SoxFan]

105. "Big swing states"

Like Texas and New York, right?

Here's another way of looking at things. Obama gained more net delegates from his win in Wyoming than Your Gal did from her win in Texas. Sucks to be you guys, don't it?

[Auntie Bush]

107. Well Wyoming is bigger than NY...so it's a bigger more important win!

ALL those people (and Elk) want Obama. Obama rules!

[bigtree]

115. big if you're counting gophers instead of voters

[Auntie Bush]

110. Well... all those ELK love Obama! He desrves the presidency.

[Raine]

112. Plus is better than minus

like what Hillary gets so darned right ... YIPPPPPEEEE!

[jbnow]

114. Teton counting reporting

The lone county yet to report as of 5 p.m. MST, with 17 delegates to award to the State Convention, will surely embolden Sen. Obama's early victory; Hillary supporters are, to the naked eye, outnumbered at least 5-to-1 in the crowd.

Caucus Chair Andy Schwartz announced less than an hour into the buzzing, overflowing room that registration had already topped 1,000 - almost five times the number of democrats who caucused in this county during the last election cycle.

http://planetjh.com/news/A_103146.aspx

[AtomicKitten]

118. Sure beats -3 delegates for her "win" in Texas.

[RBInMaine]

119. And any idiot knows he would get ALL her votes in the GE.

Use your head for Christ sake. He'll get all her votes, but she won't get all his I's and moderate R crossovers because they can't stand her.
As to "big states," he has taken Missouri, Virginia, Washington State, Wisconsin, and other sizeable states. He closed considerably in CA, OH, damn near beat her in TX after being way down (DID win the caucus there hence more delegates). And it will be OBAMA who can deliver IA, NM, CO, NV, MI, and other red leaning states while also making inroads into the redder states thus helping out down-ticket candidates. Hillary WON'T be able to do so.

[goldcanyonaz]

121. Don't count on it. I know as many ABO's as you do ABC's.

[Yael]

123. The real world isn't DU

Just sayin

[Mooney]

135. He might not get all of her votes

but he'll get the vast majority of Democratic votes. He's certainly not going to cause us to lose California or Massachussette.

[TayTay]

124. Yup 2 more delegates toward his nomination

Wait, I thought you needed delegates in order to win the nomination?

And that makes 26 states Obama has won. 26 states, more delegates and the popular vote. Hmmmm.

But, HRC should still keep trying. I hear that Obama has not yet crossed her off his VP list. Maybe she will do something impressive soon.

[KoKo]

126. RANCHERS FOR OBAMA!

[AZBlue]

132. Arizona's a big swing state?

Give! It! Up!!!

[Gore1FL]

133. You do realize how weak an argument that is, right?

2 delegates makes the gap ever wider.

2 delegates may have been won, but there are 12 less in the pot for her to get to make up the huge gap.

She won, what? 8 last tuesday?, that comes out to an average of 2 per state... Sounds like a familiarly low number....

But look at the bright side. She could close the gap by winning every remaining contest by 60%, and PA by 65%

How are the numbers looking in MS, NC, OR, MT, and SD, by the way?