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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:23 PM
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Obama Statement on Bush Torture Bill Veto
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 02:40 PM by jefferson_dem
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Obama Statement on Bush Torture Bill Veto

We need a Commander in Chief who has never wavered on whether or not it is acceptable for America to torture, because it is never acceptable. While I have consistently opposed torture, in the course of this primary campaign Hillary Clinton has flip-flopped from her past position of tolerating torture. I believe that we must reject torture without equivocation because it does not make us safe, it results in unreliable intelligence, it puts our troops at risk, and it contradicts core American values. When I am President, the American people and the world will be able to trust that I will outlaw torture, because unlike Senator Clinton I have never made an exception for torture and I never will.

http://thepage.time.com/obama-statement-on-bush-torture... /



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Here's a story on Hillary's "evolution" on this important moral question --

Clinton backs off support for torture

By: Ben Smith
Sep 27, 2007 01:05 AM EST

Senator Hillary Clinton (N.Y.) ended her support for legalized torture at a debate in New Hampshire Wednesday night, splitting with her husband and with her own recent stance on the charged issue.

"Senator Clinton, this is the number three man in Al Qaeda. We know there's a bomb about to go off, and we have three days, and we know this guy knows where it is. Should there be a presidential exception to allow torture in that kind of situation?" moderator Tim Russert of NBC asked during the debate held at Dartmouth College.

"As a matter of policy it cannot be American policy, period," Clinton responded, seconding the clear positions of Senators Barack Obama (Ill.)and Joe Biden (Del.).

But in a pair of interviews with the New York Daily News last October, Clinton outlined the same narrow exception that Russert described, and which had also been floated by former President Bill Clinton in an interview last year with National Public Radio.

"If we're going to be preparing for the kind of improbable but possible eventuality, then it has to be done within the rule of law," Clinton said at the time, in a telephone interview with this reporter, expanding on comments to the Daily News Editorial Board that there should be "lawful authority" for torture in some cases.

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0907/6050.html
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:25 PM
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1. Bless you, Senator Obama.
~PEACE~
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:26 PM
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2. That is MY president! GOBAMA!!! The time for ethics is here!!
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 02:26 PM by Zachstar
GOBAMA!!

Giving me reason to hope for America again!!
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:27 PM
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3. back back back, homerun. out of the park
GObama

this is what we need in office, not more of the same
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:29 PM
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4. Thank you, Mister President!
And I will remind you once you are in the White House that you promised to restore habeas corpus and close down the Guantanamo concentration camp.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:30 PM
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5. Well Said, Obama!
"we must reject torture without equivocation because it does not make us safe, it results in unreliable intelligence"

Dang, it will be nice to have a Commander in Chief who speaks the truth so eloquently.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:30 PM
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6. yay!
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:32 PM
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7. Good judgement
by a good man
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:33 PM
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8. But...but..but...
What if it's just like an episode of 24? What if it's for a battle in the War on Christmas? What if it's against someone who really loves the terrorists?
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:34 PM
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9. Damn straight...good for barack
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:34 PM
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10. Obama-->Rezko-->Auchi-->Saddam Hussein & Muammar al-Gadaffi
Obama-->Rezko-->Auchi-->Saddam Hussein & Muammar al-Gadaffi
EXCUSE ME:

Obama got his money from Rezko who got his 3.5 million from Auchi:

Where's the media?

-Nadhmi Auchi is an Iraqi-born billionaire who was charged along with Saddam Hussein for conspiring to assassinate Prime minister (president) Abdul Karim Qasim and stood trial in 1959. (Auchi gave fellow Baath Party members machine guns from his home for Saddam Hussein.)

-Auchi protected secret money for Saddam Hussein AND Muammar al-Gadaffi.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:45 PM
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17. You're not really speaking to the topic at hand, are you? n/m
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:32 PM
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24. alerted - spam
untrue spam at that. Obama got his money from two best-selling books, and is the least wealthy candidate.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:35 PM
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11. Bravo Obama!Well said!
:thumbsup:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:35 PM
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MSM where are you on this?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:35 PM
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12. Music to my ears.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:35 PM
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13. K&R!
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:38 PM
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14. YES!
THIS is what you want to hear from a Commander In Chief!
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:39 PM
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15. hell yeah!
now that's what I'm talkin' about
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:40 PM
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16. kick!
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:48 PM
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18. K&R - and has just prompted me to make a donation to Obama.
Thanks - I've been sitting on the sidelines until today - this post pushed me over.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:50 PM
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19. Nice! Welcome to the cult!
Have you voted yet, or are you in a later state?
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:59 PM
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21. I'm in NC - so will be working to make sure he wins here!!!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:52 PM
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20. Your post makes me smile and brings a tear to my eye, whutgives.
Welcome aboard. Barack will make us proud.

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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:00 PM
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22. Thanks - it's a relief to have finally decided. nt
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:14 PM
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23. What a man. Obama is the only candidate that can restore America to ..
it's finest, and see it forward in a moral sense.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:32 PM
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25. Hell yeah... no Triangulating for Torture, Hillary.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:40 AM
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26. That's what I'm talking about!
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:42 AM
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27. This is the argument he needs to make. Keep this kicked.
Hillary, what is your position on Waterboarding????
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:48 AM
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28. So, Mr. Obama.. Where's you voice for Impeachment?
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