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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:54 PM
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OMG- Bill Clinton called a Clinton/Obama ticket an "unstoppable force" today!
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 01:57 PM by npincus
FUX just showed a clip of it- it's true. Clip was from a townhall meeting today in Miss., Clinton was answering a question.

Very interesting...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:55 PM
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1. The Clintons are pathetic.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:01 PM
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22. Absolutely.
They do things no other dem would do. But then, they are not really dems anyway.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:02 PM
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26. Hillary could trust Barack as VP, but not vice versa. Have to stay away from small planes for sure
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:04 PM
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31. Who would want to own the beating heart that stands between her and
the Presidency?
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:52 PM
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51. I'm sorry guys
I know you don't really MEAN it. (Or I hope) But it is pretty horrible to imply that a fellow democrat who has done so much for this nation would murder another democrat to become president. Much less to imply that they would murder the sitting president in order to take over his position.


btw, congrats on Wyoming.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:55 PM
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53. I'm dead serious--and I won't take it back.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:52 PM
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69. Yes, it is only in this campaign that anyone would make such a suggestion.
By the way, ever hear of the play, Macbird?

http://www.brumm.com/MacBird /


Seriously, neither Clinton would ever physically harm an opponent. Metaphorically though, they'd put a knife in the back of anyone who stood in their way.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:05 PM
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33. Obama's life-insurance guy would have a heart attack
if Obama accepted Clinton as a VP.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:02 PM
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72. I never thought of that.... you have a point.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:03 PM
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28. Pathetic leeches.
:puke:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:26 PM
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46. BC is a smart cookie
he knows that their ONLY hope is to somehow woo back the voters he pissed off in SC.. Guess what Bill?

You offering the guy in 1st place, a back seat behind YOU, is not a deal they want to see..
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:54 PM
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70. I think offering Barak Obama the VP spot when he is ahead in delegates
resonates with the notion that he is being relegated a seat in the back of the bus.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:55 PM
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2. Begging now?
It's a new tactic, I'll give her that.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:00 PM
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sounds more like threatening than begging.
pick Hilliar as your running mate or we'll put the meat grinder on hi speed, Barack.

disgusting pieces of shit, the Clintons.
omg, they are as poisonous as any repuglathug.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:55 PM
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3. So he's a liar, drug addict, incompetant, manipulator, but he'd be a GREAT VP!
And the Clinton campaign continues to add meaning to the word "bipolar."
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:00 PM
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19. Indeed
They don't actually want Obama. They want his base and his money. His car is going all the way to the Denver, while they're out of gas and thumbing a ride. Apparently they think he's stupid, as well.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:02 PM
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25. Right. So now they'll put a guy unqualified to answer a phone on the ticket?
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 02:02 PM by cottonseed
These guys can't have it both ways. He's either commander in chief material or he's not.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:08 PM
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35. As the good ol' boys from red state update put it (and I paraphrase):
Answering a phone? Running a Xerox machine?

Exactly what job are these people applying for? :shrug:
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:55 PM
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4. That'll be great Obama/Clinton!! Yay!
;)
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:56 PM
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5. Bill is still living in Fantasyland, if he thinks Obama wants to run
on any ticket with a Clinton after how they've trashed him these past 2 weeks?

I.DON'T.THINK.SO



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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:56 PM
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6. do not let her on that ticket as the VP, she'll only drag him down
McCain will be able to show video of her slamming Obama and saying that McCain has more experience.

IMHO Hillary burned that bridge long ago.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:13 PM
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58. Hillary "Cement Shoes" Clinton n/t
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:56 PM
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7. Trying to manipulate the black vote. They should both burn in hell.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:58 PM
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13. "They should both burn in hell."
No comment necessary.

--p!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:59 PM
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17. Yep.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:05 PM
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34. By the way, defend the fact that the Clintons have only been winking at
this in a predominantly black state?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:56 PM
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8. Total political calculation! Vote for Hil and you get Barack! It's past time to "turn the page" on
the Clintons!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:05 PM
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32. It's a threesome now! Vote for Hill, and get Hill, Bill and Barack!
:thumbsdown:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:49 PM
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50. The Clinton want to win in the worst way and they are proving it more every day.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:56 PM
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9. Obama will be at the top of the ticket and after what the Clinton's have
said about him, I think it would be extremely hard for him to ask her to be his VP.

Plus, the VP spot under Hillary and Bill would be miserable.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:57 PM
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10. In the Clintons'
dreams!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:58 PM
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11. Hey Bill!! HELL NO!!
The Clintons are sick. They want to trick some voters there to think that a vote for Clinton is a vote for Obama as VP.

Obama is on the path to become our president. I hope we expose Clinton to them so they understand they are full of crap.

There is no way in hell Obama will accept being her VP. He is in it to win and he will NOT betray his supporters.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:00 PM
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18. If he did, he would lose this supporter
I feel many others would leave. How could you vote for Hillary based on the facts we have learned about her. People who be hypocrites who said they were against the war and then you vote for Hillary.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:20 PM
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41. And that is the reason Bill is talking about it.
This concept is called FUD. They want to not only make people think a vote for Clinton is a vote for Obama but they want to make it seem like Obama could betray us and become the VP.

Everyone our job is to not only expose Clinton for what she is to get him the nomination. We also have to stop the chance that he may be "Backroom dealt" Clinton as the VP.

Also it is an insult to Clinton Supporters to even talk about Her being the VP or having Obama as their VP. Some of them do not like Obama for his choices and they will feel betrayed if Clinton picked him as VP or went for VP.

Let us not be distracted too much with their stupid ass talk about VP. Let them alienate the remaining supporters they have left.

Let us focus on Exposing Clinton for what she REALLY is.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:58 PM
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12. Watch out the big boys are pushing this to eliminate Obama
They are also using she wins the big states. The powers in DC do not want Obama and watch for these two to grow. Wash Post and NYT have contribute stories and watch for more. They will push the SD to pick her this time of exp and he gets his turn next.

I will not vote for any ticket with Clinton on it. We must protest the war and not cave in like people do all the time.

Obama, leaders of new movement stand up to the powers and it may cost you but do not cave in to be VP. You would be a vp to Bill and seldom heard of unless a funeral comes up.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:58 PM
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14. Bill
Well, he knows his wife can't get the nom, so he's trying to find a backdoor. As if, after all the crap she's pulled, that could ever happen. He's just making her look weak. I can't believe a man who has been considered the smartest politician of his time could have made so many boneheaded moves with regards to Hillary's campaign. I still think on some level he is deliberately undermining her.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:58 PM
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15. So they can only get votes if peole think they'll get Obama, too? Isn't that pathetic?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:59 PM
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16. TeamClinton's been pushing that heavy now because it's the only way they have left to sell her
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 01:59 PM by blm
to the super delegates they are trying to reel in with that promise.

They KNOW they don't have the votecount and that more supers are siding with Obama and that he IS the presumptive nominee unless they can DRASTICALLY swing nearly all the supers to their side.

Not going to happen. This is a highly manipulative and desperate last ditch effort.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:44 PM
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77. Exactly
It's nothing but a typical manipulative effort. I hope people will not fall for it, and I am glad that Obama seems to have expressed (as per another thread here) a clear lack of interest in the option.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:01 PM
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20. I thought Obama didn't cross the commander in chief threshold?
Could it be the Clinton's are trying to have it both ways?
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:01 PM
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Sorry - browser problem - double post. n/t
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 02:02 PM by glenhappy
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:01 PM
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21. Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama was already decided in back rooms before Iowa. I betcha. n/t
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:01 PM
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23. Come on guys! It would be unstoppable...
the vomit buildup in my esophagus, that is


:puke:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:02 PM
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24. For those who keep missing the racial component of this, notice he
and Hillary have only been hinting at this IN MISSISSIPPI.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:02 PM
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27. Obama:.."now where DID I put those scissors?"
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:03 PM
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29. That is awesome.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:19 PM
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40. LOL! n/t
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:23 PM
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44. LOL!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:39 PM
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65. That's a great toon! n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:04 PM
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30. It's also an unstartable force
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:12 PM
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36. Due to the sheer mass of the
baggage, perhaps? :shrug:
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:15 PM
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37. He's dreaming.
n/t.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:22 PM
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43. not dreaming - manipulating
I believe he is speaking to blacks in MI, telling them they can get "two for the price of one" with Hillary and Obama on the ticket.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:46 PM
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78. You mean
three for the price of one, right? It would be a bad idea in any case, but with Bill in the picture it becomes an asysmal idea for Barack.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:16 PM
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38. It would be. Doesn't mean we should.
:)
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:19 PM
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39. Bill knows what's coming and is trying to sell the idea of keeping Hillary on the ticket.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:38 PM
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49. No--he knows they'll never be a ticket. He's trying to tell black voters
that if they vote for Hillary, they'll get Obama too, and then they don't have to make a hard choice between them. It's dishonest and sickening.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:20 PM
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42. Sad. They know they are beat and are now trying to kiss up.
Confronted with this map below, they realize it's all but over.

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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:24 PM
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45. They actually believe that they can force Obama into being on
their "dream ticket". I wouldn't go near either of them with a ten-foot pole. Hillary is desperate. She knows that she will not win the nomination so she is going to beg to be on the ticket and if she can, she'll try and convince Obama to take the VP slot--you know, doing the FRONTRUNNER a big favor and all-cause she's generous like that. :eyes:
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:32 PM
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47. Oh Yeah , And don't forget if you want Obama just vote Hillary!!
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 02:33 PM by kokono
Up is down. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Sadly this stuff works
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:32 PM
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48. But his wife said Obama was unprepared. Bill and Hillary need more talk time.
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:52 PM
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52. I hope Obama realizes that
if Hellary is on the ticket at all, he won't be getting my vote, or I suspect many others.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:12 PM
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57. +*+* +* You win Dumbest post of the day! *+*+*++
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 03:15 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
This new "I will not vote for Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama" thing is beyond the already extravagant standards of DU idiocy.
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:26 PM
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62. Its the truth, like it or not. She has betrayed the party in many an eye.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:57 PM
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54. No, that ticket is an "unwinnable one". Clinton is saying some wild things.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:11 PM
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55. I guess he's after the "latte-sippers" vote.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:11 PM
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56. A poll tested statement
that allows people to think a vote for Sen Clinton isn't *so* bad because they can still get Obama with it.

Bullshit. Obama needs to make clear he has NO interest in VP. None.
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MzShellG Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:16 PM
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59. Clinton/Obama? C'mon, Bill, 'this whole thing is a fairytale'.
Furthmore Obama/Clinton is simply not gonna happen. Barack is a smart cookie. He knows better than that.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:17 PM
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60. She can't win so is trying to staple her lame ass to the ticket.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:22 PM
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61. I just heard this on CNN, they're playing the clip. Unfucking believable. Can Obama
just come out and say "No FUCKING way?"

Those people have no shame, no dignity, no pride.. they are both a disgrace.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:33 PM
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63. Obama: "You Won't See Me as a VP Candidate"
Obama: "You Won't See Me as a VP Candidate"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/03/obama-y...

ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports: While in Casper, Wyo., today Sen. Barack Obama ruled out the possibility being a vice presidential candidate during an interview with CBS' Montana affiliate KTVQ. Here is a transcipt of what he said.

Q: Youve raised $55 million in February and in your speech today you said "I was against the war in 03, 04, 05 -- all the way on through 2010, and you specifically mentioned Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Could you ever see yourself on the same ticket as Senator Clinton?

A: Well, you know, I think its premature. You wont see me as a vice presidential candidate -- you know, Im running for president. We have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton, and have a higher popular vote, and I think we can maintain our delegate count -- but you know, what Im really focused on right now, because all that stuff is premature, is winning this nomination and changing the country. And I think thats what people here are concerned about. How are you going to provide health care to every American? So I spend a lot of time talking about the plan I wanted to put in place that would not only lower costs for those who already have health insurance, but also make sure people who dont have health insurance can get health care as good as the health care I have as a member of Congress. Those are the kinds of issues that really make a difference in peoples lives, and were going to keep on talking about them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:35 PM
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64. Good !
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:45 PM
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66. She believes she's OWED something.... AGAIN.
Being on the DLC and a former first lady doesn't mean she is owed the nomination. And blowing her shot by running a poorly constructed, vile, traitorous campaign... and LOSING... does not merit her assuming she'll even be remotely considered for Barack's VP slot.

Why would Barack do his best to wage a clean, civil campaign only to let that venemous snake taint his fresh start for America?

Nice try, Hillabee. Go try that scam on McCain.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:47 PM
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67. Clever on their part
I gotta give it to them....

But Bill also knows that the other day's comments by Hillary regarding experience won't help - that if the same "threshold" were applied for him in '92, he shouldn't have been elected.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:51 PM
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68. Repeated remarks of this nature are a belittling technique
The arrogance with which it is suggested by the Clintons imply that while Obama is not qualified to become the Commander-in-Chief, he is a candidate to be tutored for such as second in command (read understudy) during Hillary's 8 years. Just another plank in the Clinton platform to demean and belittle Obama's qualifications. Say it often enough and people will automatically start seeing him as a Vice Presidential candidate, rather than a contender for the top spot.
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:55 PM
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71. This is getting silly
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:15 PM
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73. I like this pic of Obama....
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smotrage Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:28 PM
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74. They know the country's not ready for a black president or VP.
This is just a ploy to get some black votes. After Hillary wins Pennsylvania, Michigan and Florida, Obama will be as forgotten as Howard Dean, and Wesley Clark will be her running mate.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:50 PM
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79. IF she wins PA, MI and FL
Obama will almost certainly have more delegates. Putting aside the fact that Dean us still not forgotten, how many delgates exactly did he have and how many states did he win (hint: VT). Try making sense, but I am probably asking for too much.
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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:37 PM
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75. Hillary is betting on more people voting for her if they think Obama...
will definitely be on the ticket. If he at least has the # 2 spot, I think people overall would still be okay with that. More people would be convinced to vote for Hillary if there is a good chance he will be her VP.
If there is no assurance that he will be on board, she doesn't have any hope really.
It's a sneaky manoeuver on her part, but smart.
If she is bullshitting about this and leading people on to get votes, it's pretty desperate.
If Obama comes out and denies that he would accept the VP position, it would look bad for him too. That he's not putting the party first.
So Billary seems to have him over a barrel.
He could also bullshit and do the same thing with her though, but she needs him on board more than he needs her right now.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:39 PM
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76. ABSOLUTELY ! Everything they do is calculated for effect.
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