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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:42 PM
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OBAMA Says He Will "Review Every Executive Order Issued By Bush"

Candidates rouse crowds in Wyoming

By David Olinger
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 03/08/2008 08:26:59 AM MST


CASPER Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton crisscrossed Wyoming on Friday, campaigning for every available vote in a state that last voted for a Democratic presidential candidate in 1964.

Saturday's prizes: 12 delegates in the Wyoming caucuses and precious momentum in a seesaw primary race.

Obama told a cheering crowd at a town-hall meeting in Casper that he would restore respect for law in the White House by reviewing every executive order issued by President Bush and discarding any deemed unconstitutional.

Obama's comments came in response to a question from a man in the audience who said he worried that presidents sometimes consider themselves above the law.

more at:
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_8498322
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:44 PM
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1. Good on you, Obama!!!
When you review, prosecute the Constitutional violations!!!!

He has also vowed to close gitmo and restore Habeas Corpus.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:51 PM
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20. He nails it. He has my vote. Happily. Thank you, Mr. Obama.
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nvme Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:46 AM
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43. Here's another thought
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 01:46 AM by nvme
I may be wrong but it should go a step further by Possibly ( I am not sure on the constitutionality) rescinding all signing statements. They were given as way the shrub laying groundwork to circumvent the law.
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hueyshort Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:48 AM
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65. You mean he'll have his surrogates Review?
I don't think Obama gets into details.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:35 AM
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94. Being that he teaches Constitutional Law
I believe he will review them himself.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:14 AM
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91. he tells us a nice thing - but what does he tell the corporations and other nations?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:53 AM
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97. You mean does he lie like hillary???
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:30 PM
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148. Well, knowing nothing else, this alone would clinch it for me.
That's ABSOLUTELY one of the things OUR new president simply MUST do. A total and across-the-board ESSENTIAL. Priority ONE.

Hopefully that includes the sneaky-ass decision to lock up all the presidential papers from reagan on up. Funny enough, including bush's daddy's papers. I WANNA SEE THOSE MOST OF ALL!!!!!!! (Well, besides junior's, that is.)

This is VERY good to hear. Go, O!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:46 PM
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2. Obama is a constitutional lawyer so he will restore integrity in the WH
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:35 AM
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39. Also a Professor of Constitutional Law
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #39
56. Not a professor -- he taught some classes
I have friends who work in academia, and being named a Professor is a big deal.
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:40 AM
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58. And your point is? Can you teach classes in Constitutional Law?
Being able to teach these classes is a big deal. You do have to know it to teach it! Duh!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:46 AM
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59. Why the snottiness because I made a legit point?
I am qualified to teach other law-related higher education classes -- are you? DUH? See how TOTALLY unnecessarily rude that is. And, even though I can, that doesn't make me a professor. Nor does being an EMT means someone can be called doctor.

Jesus, another one for ignore.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:05 AM
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75. Professor is a rank

Professor is an academic rank. It's like being a "made man" in academia. You're tenured and you can pretty much teach how you like from that point on. You still have to report to the bosses (department head, dean, president) though and they can make your life difficult (more classes, lower level) if you piss them off.

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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:19 AM
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78. and then we have the titles within

the title of Professor,

Associate Professor
Full Professor

did I miss any?
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #78
86. Sounds right ..

It's like saying Colonel ... there are different kinds.

I have to constantly correct my students when they call me professor. I am just a graduate lecturer.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:33 PM
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137. goes like this
with a PhD and an appt to teach at a U. the first level is Assistant Professor, if you get tenure, you are moved to Associate Professor. You then have another review in X amt. of years and you are then appointed to Full Professor status. Each level has salary minimums for that U. and that discipline. If you do amazing work and get nominated for a Pulitzer, etc. you can then be the "XX Professor of XX. The first is the name of someone who has endowed a dept. or U. with funds to reward work.

Just as anyone who works in a library is not a librarian (and there are all sorts of diff. kinds of librarians, too, some whose work involves tenure, just like Profs, and whose specialities do not overlap, anyone who teaches at a U. is not a professor. Someone who is a professor in one discipline is not a professor in another simply b/c of a PhD. Someone who is not a professor who teaches classes because of his/her expertise is generally called a Lecturer or a Visiting Scholar, etc.

I probably missed some of it, too. LostinVA makes a good point. No need to get upset with that. It doesn't detract from Obama's credentials because he would not teach at a well-regarded U. if he didn't have the chops.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:19 AM
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92. Try telling that to the Professors with their Phd.'s.
That's like calling my mother who is a nurse a doctor because she is teaching a medical class. No one would ever extend that to my mother. Unless of course this women,my mother, had her doctorate.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #59
134. So Carefully Worded
Law-related higher education classes = Driver's Ed?


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GMFORD Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #58
150. LostinVA makes a valid point.
Obama is careful not to call himself a constitutional law professor and we should be careful too. It just gives the opposition a hanging thread to try to knit a sweater from.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #56
79. Oh, I stand corrected.
I'm just a bricklayer who doesn't know the difference between a professor and a university teacher.
No attempt at deception was intended.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #56
143. That's right, he wasn't
Not for want of offers he declined.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:43 PM
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152. Professors have PHDs
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #39
73. He's was a Lecturer ...

Though, I'm fairly certain that this wasn't a community college deal. U Chicago doesn't fuck around.

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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #73
81. You know what they say about assume
I thought you had to be a professor to teach at university, my bad.
It was U of C though, and definitely a plus in my book.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:58 AM
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87. You joking ???

What you never had a foreign TA? Your college experience is obviously incomplete.

Professors really aren't teachers per se. Their primary function is the generation of knowledge. Teaching is something that is done on the side. Teaching low level classes (especially remedial stuff) is often relegated to Limited Term Lecturers and Graduate Aids (me).

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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #87
100. No
My college experience is nonexistent, there's nothing funny about that.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:28 PM
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147. I have a college degree and...
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 02:33 PM by Pacifist Patriot
I've never been taught by anyone who wasn't a professor. There are schools out there that do not use TAs. So please don't assume if someone is unfamiliar with TAs that it means their college experience is obviously incomplete. I am familiar with them, but I've got a couple of alumni friends who wouldn't have a clue what you were talking about if you used the term.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #147
160. You'll forgive us ...

You'll forgive those of us who went to state schools then that allowed graduates to answer our questions in recitation.

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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #160
161. Um, no snootiness was intended.
Your generalization didn't apply to several of us whether we had college educations or not, that's all.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:39 AM
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163. I think if you reread ...

I think if you reread my original statement, you'll find it's a form of hyperbole as in:

"Dude, if you haven't seen Seinfeld you haven't really seen TV."


Do I have to explain any more? I've got an Khazak grad student ready to do it in a thick accent.

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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #39
90. oooooh...
I knew you were gonna be jumped for that comment..
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #90
96. It seemed so innocent at the time.
:hide:
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #96
105. he he he...
I'm relatively new around here--but I saw that one coming!!!
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:46 PM
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3. Excellent
I would also hope that Hillary Clinton would do the same.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:48 PM
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4. Has Hillary had "experience" as a Constitional lawyer?

:crazy:
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Only in figuring out how to circumvent
the constitution...that's where her consitutional experience has come from.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:14 AM
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49. I don't know. How many Constitutional lawyers has she slept next to?
Apparently this is how she picks up experience.
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #49
135. Aww you didn't have to say that
Now I have to clean the coke off my monitor.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:54 AM
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70. No, but she stayed in a Holiday Inn.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:27 AM
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52. she would..
..
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:57 AM
Response to Reply #52
61. She would what? Sleep next to a constitutional professor, or gain "experience" by doing so?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:16 AM
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76. She will
She was asked this as a question in one of the debates (I forget which) but it was asked of all the Democratic candidates that were on the stage.

Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Edwards, Obama, AND Clinton --and they all responded they would.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #76
107. Thanks maddiejoan
Now that you say it, I remember that debate. ;) Thanks for refreshing my memory.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:50 PM
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5. Well, considering that
I just donated to Obama last night, and re-registered from Independent to Democrat this morning so that I can vote for O. in the Oregon Primary, and volunteered to work on his campaign -- all on faith, since protecting the constitution is my most important issue -- this is very good news indeed!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:53 PM
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7. Yea for Mme. Defarge nt
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. Entre nous, s'il vous plait ...
after being on DU for almost 4 years, I have not yet figured out the meaning of "nt" -- could you translate please?

Merci!
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. I'll tell ya!
It means "no text", as in no text included in the body of the post. :hi:
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Madame Defarge ...
likes to be "au current" and appreciates your assistance! :yourock:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Mais oui! Pas de probleme!
:hi:
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:56 AM
Response to Reply #14
60. Check out the DU glossary
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #60
153. Coolness! n/t
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #14
146. Here's the link to the DU Glossary where many things like this are explained.
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:16 AM
Response to Reply #5
50. Merci beaucoup, Mme Defarge
C'est tres bien. Au revoir mon ami.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:58 AM
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62. the Constitution
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 07:59 AM by 90-percent
This is my most important issue also. Well, the occupations are pretty important, too.

But our system is based on checks and balances, as laid out in the constitution. All the treasonous crap Bush has been allowed to get away with has to be wiped out like Polio or the Plague.

Like Frank Zappa, I am also a Constitutional Fundamentalist. With a fully restored Constitution, we could have a government of the people once again.

-90% Jimmy

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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:54 PM
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8. that is a HUGE step towards fixing the problems of the Bush White House
k and r
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:58 PM
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9. Reason number one to vote for Obama.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:08 PM
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10. Why stop at Bush's orders, just issue an order rescinding all and then selectively re-approve.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:50 PM
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19. Even better yet!
I like it.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:24 PM
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11. For anyone still on the fence, this should do it! rec'd
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #11
40. You would think so.
Too many people just don't know what's happening.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #11
119. still on the fence btwn Hil and O? Hil already said it.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:25 PM
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12. he has my vote and my campaign contributions
he's going to be the next president of the United States, folks, you heard it here
first.

:-)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:26 PM
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13. Hillary said the same thing months ago. nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:44 PM
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15. months and months ago
but, we digress
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #15
29. Was that before or after Bush endorsed her?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:28 AM
Response to Reply #29
55. No it was after Obama said there was no daylight between his position on Iraq and Bush's
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:24 AM
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93. She said it in Oct.2007
Hillary Clinton blasted the Bush administration's expansion of executive power today, pledging to conduct a review of Bush's abuses if elected to the White House. She explained her general thoughts in a substantive interview with The Guardian's Michael Tomasky:


I think it is clear that the power grab undertaken by the Bush-Cheney administration has gone much further than any other president and has been sustained for longer. Other presidents, like Lincoln, have had to take on extraordinary powers but would later go to the Congress for either ratification or rejection. But when you take the view that they're not extraordinary powers, but they're inherent powers that reside in the office and therefore you have neither obligation to request permission nor to ask for ratification, we're in a new territory here. And I think that I'm gonna have to review everything they've done because I've been on the receiving end of that. There were a lot of actions which they took that were clearly beyond any power the Congress would have granted or that in my view that was inherent in the constitution. There were other actions they've taken which could have obtained congressional authorization but they deliberately chose not to pursue it as a matter of principle.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-melber/clinton-on-exe...
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #93
120. damn she's good.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #13
121. Obama has a tendency to parrot Clinton on practically every
issue.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:16 PM
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133. Yup. NYT: Obama followed the Hillary model....
"He met with nearly one-third of the Senate, from both sides of the aisle, including his future rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, to learn about the institution and solicit advice on how to succeed. That shaped a strategy: work hard, tend to your constituents, and, above all, get along with others. He spent many weekends traveling across Illinois for town-hall-style meetings.

The Hillary model
Mr. Obamas advisers referred to it as the Hillary model, patterned after Mrs. Clintons approach when she joined the Senate in 2001. But while Mr. Obama expressed admiration for her at the time, he dissuaded reporters from making too close a comparison.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23540579/page/2/
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:51 PM
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21. GOBAMA!
This is great. Time to bring the constitution back from the dead.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:53 PM
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22. This is a winning message in many parts of the country...
especially out West and down South. These folks love to hear their politicians defend the Constitution.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #22
35. But a losing message
when it comes to corporate controlled media, polling and voting machine vendors, as well as every branch of government.

Any plans he has to return to the rule of law, I hope he keeps them under his hat.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:06 AM
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89. Your post actually made me sad- that talking about the "law" would
be something negative in our country. What has happened to us? :-(
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #89
113. It is sad
And just getting bu$h out of the Blight House won't fix it.
We need a President who respects laws, treaties and human life, that would be a good start anyway.

Sorry I brought you down, it pained me to say it.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:04 PM
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23. Outstanding!
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canadian_is_cold Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:06 PM
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24. I would LOVE to see that happen n/t
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:08 PM
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25. So
This is more double speak.

If he must know the ones he finds unconstitutional. Why does he always try to leave himself so much wiggle room.

I will review them. That means diddly squat!
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Maineman Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:31 AM
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68. He is not an absolutist, social controller, or unilateralist
He is a cooperator and a listener, as opposed to being an arrogant know-it-all like Bush-Cheney. I fear Hillary is a bit more like Bush-Cheney. I also note that Obama's campaign is better organized. Why did Hillary not plan her campaign beyond Super Tuesday? Hmmm. Bush did not plan his Iraq campaign beyond the initial invasion.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:03 PM
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124. I'm furking disgusted with Obama using Clintons words/ ideas
as his own. This is political plagiarism.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:09 PM
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26. This is why I voted for him.
He gets it. He understands what's been lost.
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Maineman Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:17 AM
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67. Me too
I have heard this before, and it is a big deal for me. Barack is an organizer and a leader. He does not need to act unilaterally. I am not so sure about Hillary.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:09 PM
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127. That's right, you heard it before from Hillary Clinton.
Obama has a good organization capable of stealing words from Clinton's mouth and depositing them in Obamas mouth.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:09 PM
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128. That's right, you heard it before from Hillary Clinton.
Obama has a good organization capable of stealing words from Clinton's mouth and depositing them in Obamas mouth.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:09 PM
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27. It's been so long
that it's hard to imagine a president that follows the Constitution. Wow, this past 7 years has felt like an eternity.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:11 PM
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28. That's music to my ears.
I think he means it too! :woohoo:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:13 PM
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30. You know this is why
the bushits, limpbaughs and the clintons of the country do not want Obama near the white house. It's a powerful force he and his team are going up against but he's got a lot of free thinkers behind him.
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:27 PM
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104. Obama's Got My Vote
He is a leader the likes we have not seen in a lifetime...

If the past 20+ years have taught us one thing, we need a true uniter. Not one who just claims to be, but on who is displaying an ability to unite people right before our eyes...

Vote for Barack Obama.

Thanks.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:14 PM
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131. I wouldn't call Obama anymore of a uniter than Clinton is.
Are you oblivious to the fact that Hillary Clinton has her fair share of supporters. Would be interesting to see if Obama could unite Congress. No president has been able to unite those bodies since FDR.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:28 PM
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31. That is music to my ears! Thank you, Senator Obama. Thank you.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:39 PM
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109. Hillary said this in a debate months ago.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:07 PM
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125. She also said that McCain has crossed the threshhold to be Commander in Chief.
McCAIN - crazy, doddering, war-mongering, hot-tempered Bush-licking McCain.

Yeah, I'm gonna put a lot of credence in what she has to say...
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:16 PM
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132. Doesn't make an iota of difference to the wide eyed Obama
idolers.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:29 PM
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32. Way to go, Obama!
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:33 PM
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33. Now that's my Guy, and I'm so proud of him!!
Anyone think that Hillary will do as much?? I don't!!
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:00 AM
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34. Now he's talking my issues !
Best thing I've heard all primary.
This was my hope when I voted for him.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:11 AM
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36. This is it, Obama! This
is some of that change we're talkin' about!
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:57 PM
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122. Hillary already talked about this change in 2007, and 2008 before now...
i've heard her say it months ago and others here have as well. that's what we like about her. She's talking about things she will actually do.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:08 PM
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126. hilarly has a Record of not changing.
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 01:08 PM by zidzi
hilary has enabled bush to keep the War On Iraq going. Keep your eyes closed and you will not see hilary's dirty little secrets or her dirty little campaign lies. Keep those fingers in your ears and you won't hear the lies hilary tells her hangers on.

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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:13 PM
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130. how has hillary enabled the war to keep going in ways that obama hasn't?...
and who's got their fingers in their ears, this is the first time you're hearing obama talk about reviewing orders, he said it in January 2008.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:32 PM
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136. hilary and the bushits got the war started
and now they need supplies but you knew that. hilary is a lying, cheating, mccain supporter who wants Obama to be her VP..but lies about him to the public..she's a dirty politician who will say anything and do nothing. And you still support her so that means you have no powers of observation..good luck with that.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:38 PM
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138. i'd repeat the question but clearly you didn't understand it the first time. not surprising.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:45 PM
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141. "There's just no hypocricy like Hilary Hypocricy"
And that goes for her clingons too.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:19 AM
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37. I've been waiting....
For one of these candidates to say exactly those words.

Bravo -

We HAVE to get this man elected!!
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:40 PM
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110. Hillary already said it in a debate i think after IA, or right before.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:03 PM
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154. Alot of people must not have been listening.
Or like me, don't believe it.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:23 AM
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38. I would think that would be a given, but then again...
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:57 AM
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41. I would hope so. n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:32 AM
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42. As it should be
Thanks Kpete
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:03 AM
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44. Maybe the press,
Hillary, and the republicans should review Obama. That's more like it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:46 AM
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45. N I C E
:thumbsup:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:01 AM
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46. Well... there it 'tis.
:thumbsup:
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Oldenuff Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:04 AM
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47. That is good to hear!
But I'd like to see him go even further.The Patriot Act,the Real ID Act,the Protect America Act,the new passport rules,those all need to be repealed as well.Has he taken a position on those abominations?I'll be honest,Obama was not my first choice in a candidate.On the other hand,Hillary was dead last in my choice as a candidate to support.I'm still inclined to say "feck it" and write in Kooch.

Or Kinky Freidman...or Wilie Nelson. :hippie:

North American Union be damned! :mad:
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:10 PM
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156. I think the gist is
if it's not constitutional, it won't fly.
That was my hope when I voted for him.

BTW - Kucinich was my 1st, Obama 5th, Clinton 8th.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:37 AM
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48. Excellent! Obama should definitely stress his constitutional law experience n/t
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:25 AM
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51. too bad while he's been in the senate he hasn't been a more boistorous
voice for all the power they signed away to Bush in the first place. seems more like, review, and pick and choose which one's will help him be king too.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:00 AM
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53. FINALLY!!!!! A Candidate Spreaks That Which I Need To Hear. nt
NoFederales
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:51 PM
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118. Did you hear the Des Moines IA debate? it was said there by hillary and others...
this is not anything new.
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jonnyra Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:23 AM
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54. This is exactly whats been missing
from all the election rhetoric...NO mention of the crimes committed y the Bush/Cheney crime family. And finally...FINALLY Obama brings it up and I must say he has just won my support. It will be interesting to see how fast Clinton responds with a similar statement.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:13 AM
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66. Senator Clinton has already said it -- quite a while ago, actually
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:47 AM
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84. Quote?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:36 AM
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57. After so many years of living under the thumb of an idiot,
won't it be refreshing to have a president with an operable brain who has not only read the Constitution, but taught it?
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Maureen1322 Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:34 AM
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63. It pisses me off
That whoever gets elected has to start by cleaning up the
mess this administration has made.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:47 AM
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69. It still pisses me off
that when Bill Clinton took office he never pursued the corruption of Bush the elder.
Had he pushed the investigations in place we may have avoided the divisiveness of the whole Clinton presidency as well as the entire Bush debacle.
I want to hear from both HRC and BHO what they plan to do to bring the crimials to justice.
America could use a year or more of cleansing.
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aasleka Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:44 AM
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64. Rule of Law is my number one issue also, But why not go further?
Why not ask Congress for a law that would preclude any future executive orders based on the legality of the order reviewable for interpretation by the Courts? This would give a balance to the executive order bussiness that it currently does not have. There is a HUGE problem when Congress passes a law and the President signs an order stating that he is above the law.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:57 AM
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71. Which means not only will Bush documents be opened, but Clinton ones.
And the Bush/Clinton elite are desperate to keep this from happening.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:14 PM
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157. So desperate
that they're building up McCain!
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:01 AM
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72. trashed until deemed sane ...

Yeah, he should have someone go through and trash everyone except those that sound remotely constitutional. I don't think many will survive.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:05 AM
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74. K&R-about time someone spoke of signing statements
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:18 AM
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77. That is definitely one of the things I have wanted to hear.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:44 PM
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114. Hillary has said it several times.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:44 AM
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80. You can bet that if Hillary ever becomes president
she will continue to expand the powers of the presidency in the same way that bush has. We saw that even while first lady, she took a dim view of our Constitution and abused what little power she had. The FBI files for instance. The thought of Hillary have the tools that bush put in place is truly frightening. She has an obvious lust for power and no matter what she says, we all know that she will never give up anything, constitutional or not, if it increases that power.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:46 AM
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82. So why isn't he calling for accountability now ?...
And who gets to "deem" which are unconstitutional? He is part of this Congress that has already allowed them to take effect. How do you reverse that damage? Empty words from another Congressional enabler is all I see. And that goes for Clinton and McCain too. If you can't stand up to Bush in Congress, don't expect me to believe you will at any other time just because you say it to get votes.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:47 AM
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83. Yes! He knows his stuff. They don't just appoint anyone president of Harvard Law Review.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:50 AM
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85. Is this even logistically possible?
I would assume the "we lost the emails" boy king will buy out the masterlock aisle at Ace Hardware and fire up the shredders long before the next president moves in.
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Suzie57 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:48 PM
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117. True but
If Bush could destroy all records of his foolish signing statements then they would no longer exist and the laws he took exception to would stand as passed by congress, so that would be good. i actually don't think he could but who knows what he might try.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:58 AM
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88. Promise to proscecute him for every crime he has commited and you can have my vote Sen. Obama
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:37 AM
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95. Bush: "I trust my legacy to Hillary"
So, I'm guessing that means a 'no' on her scrutinizing his executive orders.

:shrug:
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:20 PM
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158. That WAS an eye opener
Was it not?
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:57 AM
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98. Absolutely.
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 12:00 PM by Usrename
I don't doubt it for a second.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:59 AM
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99. Obama is once again following Clinton's lead. She said this months ago.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:39 PM
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108. i remember this too, do you have the quote? i can't believe obamanots are falling for this...
like he's the first person to say this. just wow.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:16 PM
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101. Kicked!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:21 PM
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102. How I wish I had been there to hear that. I have so longed for the next Prez to start from Day One--
--and have hoped that from the day after his or her election that he or she would have people dedicated to the task of ferreting out every damn one of Bush's executive orders and signing statements with the intent of overturning them.

Bush started on his first day in the Oval Office. So should our Democratic president, because it will be like shoveling out the Augean Stables.

Hekate

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:23 PM
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103. kick
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:38 PM
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106. Hillary said this in a debate months ago.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:41 PM
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111. She speaks about it in townhalls too.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:42 PM
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112. Obama's lawyering creds
If he is indeed a Constitutional Scholar that should be plastered over every square inch of campaign lit he is.

Using the name; Barack "Constitutional Law Professor" Obama, would give him a 20 point kick in the polls all over the country.

I want my President to be an expert on the Constitution. I'm tired of eight years of knowing more about the Constitution than my President does!

-90% Jimmy
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:47 PM
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116. Also, he was a Civil Rights Attorney
He was invited to do Corporate law (like Hillary) but he chose to work for a Civil Law firm.

He worked with Project Vote as well, which is another group that protects civil rights.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:24 PM
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159. Be careful
with the P word.

I made that mistake upthread and it started a brawl.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:45 PM
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115. Obama taught Constitutional Law for 10 years,
he will know how to restore it.

kicked, and RECOMMENDED.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:59 PM
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123. Hillary Clinton's reply to question asked her at National Town Hall meeting
prior to the March 4th primaries, addressed this. She was asked what she would do the very first day she was in office as President. The first answer Hillary gave was that she would take the Constitution out of Cold Storage. She then said she would reverse many of George W. Bush's exectutive orders. That was the first time I heard either candidate discuss overturning Bush's executive orders. She followed that by saying she would convene her military and security advisors to begin implementing withdrawal from Iraq.


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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:40 PM
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139. She's already VOTED to SUPPORT BUSH Time and Time again. And she's in Bed with the Saudis/Dubai
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GMFORD Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:41 PM
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151. Good for her.
I'm glad to see both our candidates realize how important this is.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:12 PM
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129. Well done. Signing statements too, though.
Every bill Bush used a signing statement on should be cleansed. Maybe just write one bill that makes signing statements null and void.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:43 PM
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140. a question for ppl here
when did Hillary start the chant, "Yes We Will."

I thought the "Yes We Can" was Obama's thing. Did I miss it before in her campaigns (before Ohio, that is).
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:04 PM
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144. No. "Yes we can" was the Farm Workers Union thing, their slogan...
then he 'borrowed it', then after a lot of back and forth btwn obama and hil camp talking about the difference btwn talk and action people started say 'yes she *will*' to illustrate a difference. That was about 4 weeks ago maybe. i could be off by a week or 2.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:08 PM
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155. thanks so much! n/t
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:54 PM
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142. Sometimes it takes a constitutional law scholar to clean up after a Bush.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:15 PM
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145. What he (or Hillary) should be saying is not re-view, but RE-SCIND.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:31 PM
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149. But...wait...
What if we nominate someone who really understands the Constitution? Couldn`t that be problematic?
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:32 PM
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162. Wow! This is great! Sen. Obama, soon our nominee for President
of the United States,(I just HAD to write that once)will need a team of people to clear up the executive order over-reach! Wonder if he'll look into the dreaded Presidential directives too?
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