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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:31 PM
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Amazing, Absolutely Amazing.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 12:37 PM by Hissyspit
Hillary supporters have attacked Keith Olbermann, calling him a hack. Someone mocked Randi Rhodes, calling her a drunk who sits on her ass. They've disparaged John Aravosis, calling him a fool, despite his criticism of Obama over the McClusky fiasco. All people who have been amazing in their service in the fight against the insanity of the right-wing in this country...

And now they are attacking a 17-year-old, a young new voter, the one who appeared in the 3 a.m. ad as a little girl, calling her a golddigger.

Maybe some of these posts are from trolls or were meant to be sarcastic and they just went over my head - I hope so - but as someone who is not particularly fond of either candidate, I just read them with my jaw dropped open. No one is above criticism and critique - I've thought some of the attacks on Bill and Chelsea were uncalled for and Keith's approaches have sometimes overshot the runway, and yes there have been homophobic and sexist posts in defense of Obama - but this is getting bizarre. I come to this website and it's like right-wing talk radio.

Amazing, just amazing.


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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:32 PM
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1. That's what you get with the Anti-Hope Anti-Change Candidate.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:25 PM
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29. The Woman from "Don't Get Your Hopes Up"
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:56 PM
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38. all the people that have been criticised have attacked bush when
it cost something. People who have done this are cowards. they put themselves into harms way for the truth. they deserve respect.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:32 PM
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2. You must have missed the posts by Obama supporters defending David Shuster and praising Samantha
Power for a comment even she regrets.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:33 PM
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3. I love David Shuster...and KO...
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:36 PM
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4. "Well THEY started it!" That's always the response from both sides.
You all sound like a bunch of children. Obama and Clinton fanatics alike.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:39 PM
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8. and your point is?
she "said" she regretted it.. she MEANT it..and I say Right ON!

She had to fall on her sword, so to speak, and he had to let her go.. she was NOT a paid staff member anyway.

David Shuster criticized the poor little 28 yr old child's parents for pushing her out front..when for decades she had been off limits (and I agreed with that when she was a kid)

she refuses any scrutiny from press, refuses most interviews and basically acts like a primadonna who can not be challenged, questioned or even approached,but she's free to use the "free press" to any advantage she can get..

I was glad to see that a lot of media outlets did not cover her all that much.. If she won't at least talk to the, I guess the kissed her off .. She wants to be Greta Garbo, so they say ok.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:40 PM
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11. I guess we can hate samantha now...the list keeps getting longer
and longer...
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:36 PM
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5. What's even more amazing, absolutely amazing, is the selective outrage.
The hope 'n change crowd have thrown under the bus such outstanding progressives as Wesley Clark, Paul Krugman, Joe Wilson, and others, simply because they have expressed doubts about Obama. At the same time they have treated the likes of Charles Krauthammer, Andrew Sullivan, and Peggy Noonan as the Voice of God.

All that's just fine, but now the situation has grown entirely intolerable because someone makes a smartass remark about a teenage girl?

Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:44 PM
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15. This stuff on Krugman and Joe Wilson bothered me, too.
But I have to say I don't remember seeing anything as quite as outrageous as I've seen lately, and I have to say as well that I'm addressing mainly what I've seen in the past few days, so, yes, being selective in that sense.
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lewis_in_fw Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:01 PM
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24. Krugman, Wilson = Editorials. Keith,MSNBC = MSM, Randi = Left-Radio. Think please *NT*
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:48 PM
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17. They threw all those folks under the bus...
...PLUS 1.75 million FL Democratic voters.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:00 PM
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23. There was more than one remark
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 01:35 PM by Hissyspit
and they do seem especially bad - and hypocritical in their sexism.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:37 PM
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6. I LOVE Keith, but I've never cared for Randi much
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 12:59 PM by OhioBlues
and I'm voting for Senator Obama.

Yay Keith!!! :bounce:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:37 PM
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7. And what does it tell us when more than a single person makes ageist remarks in a single topic?? ...
I take it as a camp that has many people in it that are sexist, ageist, and raciest people.

Ageism is just as socially unacceptable and morally wrong as other forms of discrimination.

I take it seriously because there are young people in this country suffering greatly from the effects of ageism. I will not even go into details about the abuse some of these younger folks take.

I have put several people on ignore from that topic.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:40 PM
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9. How dare you! Hissyspit, you are dead to me. And so is that little kitty in your avatar!
Goddammit, quit watching me! Evil, evil kitteh!!!
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:44 PM
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14. Take that, my pretty!!!!!! heh heh heh heh heh! lol lol lol lol!
Thank goodness that evil kitty is not staring at ME!!!!!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:41 PM
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32. So NER you little twerp
.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:40 PM
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10. Makes me think of how she treated the 12 year old girl raped
She attack the girl not the rapist. Monster. Now it is a 17 yr old girl. Woman, how can you vote for her. Mothers how can you vote for her.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:42 PM
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12. This kind of stuff has become all too common around here lately.
I haven't read the post that you refer to about the 17 year old girl, but there have been some pretty disgusting ones on other subjects. I can only hope that these people are here just to sow dissension in our ranks and will be gone soon. There seems to be a lot of newbies (and I don't mean all newbies, we were all newbies at one time) here that do nothing but trash and smear and try to get a poo slinging match started.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:42 PM
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13. Hilliary needs to drop out now. eom
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:46 PM
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16. It is amazing that these folks have treated such a fine Democrat like this....and you approve.
The "Randi Rhodes is PISSED! " thread is a prime example of people defending irrational hatred towards Hillary.
Randi Rhodes should take some time off to attend AA.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:54 PM
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19. I never said I approved. I didn't even imply I approve. But there is a difference in criticism
of the candidate and irrational ad hominem attacks. I didn't read that Randi Rhodes thread.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:59 PM
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21. Yes you did.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 01:00 PM by jlake
"Someone mocked Randi Rhodes, calling her a drunk who sits on her ass."

That was referring to my post, #1 in said thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Whether my criticism or RR is too sharp or not, she has crossed the line in her irrational hatred for Hillary and her disrespect for Clinton supporters.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:11 PM
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25. No, I didn't.
There is no implied approval of Ms. Rhodes' criticisms of Hillary in my post. I was pointing out the character of the attack on her (Rhodes). I apologize if you felt on called you out on that post. I was trying not to, but maybe I was too specific.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:42 PM
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33. NER. NER
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:42 PM
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34. Ner
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lewis_in_fw Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:59 PM
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22. You are unreal. News is supposed to be relatively unbiased not like MSNBC *NT*
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FedoraLV Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:49 PM
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40. RR in AA
If she did you wouldn't know. :)

-FedoraLV
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:48 PM
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18. The hard-core right-wing reactionary operatives have moved
from Freeper Land to DU.


More bang for the buck.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:24 PM
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28. Yep. Mostly posing as Obama supporters it seems.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:44 PM
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36. Yes. Beware the wooden spoon brigade
They should stay with their candidate. We know how much they love McCain.

Hillary will thrash him in November if nominated.
So will Barack.
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lewis_in_fw Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:57 PM
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20. Keith at least as a member of the MSM and spokesman for all dems should contain his Obama Fever *NT*
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:12 PM
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26. We on this site are down to two candidates to choose from
Most here are just plain old Democrats. We like less corp. control over our govt. We believe in not allowing someone to die in the streets from lack of money to house or care for their medical needs. We don't like invading a country that is not a threat to us, like Iraq. We don't like paying excessive taxes any more than a repub, sheesh. That is a no brainer. But, we also realize that someone is going to pay for removing the sick and dead from the streets, sarcasm, meaning we are responsible for those that are incapable of caring for themselves.

We have basic laws set-out in the Constitution and by Congress. We should have a right to be protected from the super rich, like the corps have become. They now make our laws. Tort laws drives the repubs crazy, so a Dr., product, lawyer screws you, the repubs think it is your fault for being stupid. That is the repub. logic, buyer beware.

I once voted for the person. No more. My how the politicians lie to us. Maybe with the ability to check things out on the internet and hopefully get close to the truth, the public will be better able to decide on who to vote for.

At the moment, and I am totally drunk, gave up cigs for booze, I gotta go with Obama. He talks about the Democratic values that I have learned to Value. Yup, I voted for Reagan twice!!! Talk about being duped by pretty talk. Somehow I believe that Obama believes in the same Dem. values that I have come to totally respect. Don't give the corps an effin benefit of the doubt, they will eff you and are amazed that the public is so stupid to believe the BS the mass media pumps out about war, security, taxes, etc. BS.

Between the two candidates there is no doubt that I go with the candidate that when his honesty causes him votes, like the BS about the late night phone call??? Experience???......all of us on here (DU) lack political experience, etc., but we know what the problem is. Most of us were against the Iraq war from day one. Why wasn't Hillary more thoughtful and show more depth in the logic area??? At least Obama, who was running for Senate and had something to lose by declaring the Iraq War a mistake, clearly stated how he was against it. How can you not feel comfy with that kind of logic??

That is what I am looking for in a candidate, logical thinking. Not how to run a strategical campaign.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:15 PM
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27. I haven't done any of those things.
But have you missed the threads where Wes Clark, Joe Wilson and Paul Krugman, to name a few, have been completely TRASHED by Obama supporters?
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:31 PM
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30. I did miss those threads
What did Wes, Wilson and Krugman say that Obama trashed? Thanks.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:25 PM
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37. Here's some of what Obama and his supporters had to say
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:40 PM
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31. I agree Obama is beyond the pale. So NER NER
(just saying that because at least 50% of comments on this thread are in the Ner so NER NER category.
pathetic.)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:43 PM
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35. I know. n/t
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:01 PM
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39. They've adopted RW attacks
It seems that everything they say about these people is what the freepers have been foaming from the mouth about forever..... hmmmmm, interesting.
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