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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:05 PM
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Bamboozling the American electorate again part 1
NOTE TO MODS AND ADMIN: I have received permission from the Editor to post this article in it's entirety.


Bamboozling the American electorate again
Bush-Cheney strategy involves G.O.P. crossover voting to take out Clinton, marketing newcomer Obama, stripping delegates, inciting a riot at the convention and maybe even martial law...


Revised and Updated March 8, 2008

Evidence of a covert campaign to undermine the presidential primaries is rife, so it's curious that the Democractic Party and even some within the G.O.P. have ignored the actual elephant in the room this year. That would be Karl Rove. Long accused of rigging the two previous presidential elections, this master of deceit would have us believe that he's gone off to sit in a corner and write op-eds.

Not so. According to an article in Time magazine published last November, Republicans have been organized in several states to throw their weight behind Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic rival of Hillary Clinton. At least three former fundraisers for President Bush flushed his coffers with cash early on in the race, something the deep pockets haven't done for any candidate in their own party. With receipts topping $100 million in 2007, the first-term Illinois senator broke the record for contributions. It was a remarkable feat, considering that most Americans had not even heard of him before 2005.

The Time article went on to explain that rank and file Republicans were switching parties this spring to vote for Obama in the Democratic primaries. Though not mentioned in the piece, a group called Republicans for Obama formed in 2006 to expedite the strategy. Many states have open primaries, allowing citizens to vote for any candidate, regardless of their party affiliation. In Nebraska, the Democratic mayor of Omaha publicly rallied Republicans to caucus for Obama on February 9th, according to Fox News Channel. Called crossover voting, the tactic is playing a crucial role in what appears to be a Rove-coordinated effort to deprive Clinton of the nomination. Even with his more well-known dirty tricks arsenal - phone bank sabotage, fake polling data, swiftboating, waitlisting, electronic voting equipment, Norman Hsu, etc. - Rove would be hard pressed to defeat Clinton in November, since she's generally popular nationwide and has promised an immediate troop withdrawal from Iraq. If the contest isn't close, the vote-rigging won't matter. (Several influential Republicans admit as much in a February 11th story for Politico.)

If, on the other hand, Obama wins the nomination (or even the VP spot), Rove's prospects brighten considerably. Largely unvetted by the media, the senator carries considerable baggage from his stint as a state legislator, particularly his 17-year relationship with Chicago slumlord Tony Rezko. So far, the mainstream press has paid lip service to the particulars of Obama's past and instead portrayed him as a fresh new face in American politics. The author of the Time article, Jay Newton-Small, offered the following explanation to account for the bizarre love affair G.O.P. voters say they're having with an African American senator on the other side of the aisle. "It seems a lot of Republicans took to heart Obama's statement in his rousing speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention that 'there is not a liberal America and a conservative America there is the United States of America.'"

Is he kidding? The conservative publication National Journal claims Obama's voting record is the most liberal in Washington, even moreso than Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich. Not everyone agrees with that assessment by a long shot, but it's nevertheless hard to picture the voting pattern Mr. Small implies here: Nixon - Reagan - Bush - Dole - Bush - Obama. And this through-the-looking-glass rationale is widely shared by journalists, pundits and politicians across the political spectrum, many of whom advance the equally suspect position that Clinton, the first viable female candidate for president, represents the past.

Last year, at the same time she commanded a huge lead in the national polls, political analysts and professional strategists retained by CNN and other broadcast networks began hammering across the notion that "the voters don't like her". The adjectives "unlikable", "divisive" and "polarizing" used to characterize Clinton have been repeated over and over in the same manner that "biological warfare" and "weapons of mass destruction" were employed during the lead-up to the Iraq War. In both cases, the terminology traces back to a cadre of right-wing, neocon ideologues who keep the studio seats warm at Fox News. "There is no candidate on record, a front-runner for a party's nomination, who has entered the primary season with negatives as high as she has," Rove told Reuters last August. Earlier this month, Bush's former senior political advisor joined Fox as a part-time election analyst.

Obama himself recites Rove's "high negatives" comment in press interviews whenever discussing Clinton. His often bitter criticism of the former First Lady and other "Washington insiders", who he says want to "boil and stew all the hope out of him", represents a staple of his core political message. His campaign slogan to the effect of "I'm a uniter, not a divider" is also reminiscent of the Bush 2000 campaign, which Rove managed. Perhaps that's not suprising when you discover that one of Obama's speechwriters is Ben Rhodes, the brother of Fox News VP David Rhodes. (Marisa Guthrie, of BC Beat, reported this connection recently.) The latter Rhodes has been with the network since its inception in 1996. You may recall that on election night in November 2000, it was Fox that called Florida for Bush, even though the other networks declared Gore the winner, citing the exit polls. How Fox knew the polls were wrong in advance of the vote tabulation has never been explained.

The Times of London reported on March 2nd that Obama is already interviewing Republican lawmakers like Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel for key positions in his cabinet, if elected. "Senior advisers confirmed that Hagel, a highly decorated Vietnam war veteran and one of McCains closest friends in the Senate, was considered an ideal candidate for defence secretary." the story claimed. "Some regard the outspoken Republican as a possible vice-presidential nominee although that might be regarded as a 'stretch'."

It may still be a little early to be talking about the transition team. To recap the primaries so far: On Super Tuesday, February 5th,Clinton captured sizeable majorities in the population-rich states of California, New York, Massachusetts and New Jersey, considered crucial to a Democratic victory in November. While Obama won most of the the red states in play (plus Iowa and South Carolina before that), Clinton took Tennessee, Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico and Arkansas. Earlier, Clinton won the primaries in Nevada, Florida and New Hampshire. Obama later posted a string of victories in the caucus states of Washington and Nebraska, the Louisiana primary, then Maryland, Virginia, D.C., Wisconsin and Hawaii. On March 4th, Clinton won in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island, while Obama picked up Vermont, giving him about a 100-delegate lead, according to the Associated Press. Neither candidate is expected to reach the 2025-delegate mark needed to cinch the nomination before the convention in August.

TO BE CONTINUED

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:22 PM
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1. This sounds like 1968 all over again, but more complicated
...because the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars are GOP wars and this is really a fascist takeover of the U.S.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:25 PM
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2. Thanks for posting this and also for taking the time and effort...
... to get permission to post the article in its entirety. Much of what is discussed by the author is exactly what some of us having been trying to explain to others on this forum, to be met with derision and name-calling. I fear by the time people finally wake up to this political shell game it will be far too late.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:05 PM
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18. Yep... I've been saying this for weeks
The MIC personified by rove and NBC don't want Hillary in because a) she can win and b) she will pull the contractors out of Iraq.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:25 PM
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3. Neither candidate is expected to reach the 2025-delegate mark before the convention.
Seems to be an important fact that Obama supporters overlook.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:30 PM
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4. And they're falling for it
That's the part that's killing me. Funny how Caucuses, which are much more subject to manipulation by human beings (operatives) are going Obama's way.

Giving Obama the nomination means a McCain presidency.

I don't believe Obama is part of the conspiracy, at all. I think he thinks he should be president. My *grandfather* has more qualifications for President than Obama!

I know the people of my state are cynical, mean bastards (at least the ones I know) and I really believe that's why my state voted Clinton in such high percentage.

I really do see a conspiracy here and I know people think I'm crazy for it.

Except for the whole doesn't like teh gayz thing, I think Obama's a good guy. Very conceited, as those of us with high IQ's tend to be (noticed I included myself in the conceited part) and he has fallen for the plan hook, line and sinker. But hey, the dude is human so appealing to his sense of self and of making the history books, worked to convince him he *deserves* to be president.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:39 PM
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7. Wow, your granddad must be well known
if he has better qualifications than Obama. He was a governor or a Senator or Rep, I gather.

Oh, and people who toot their own horn about how smart they are? Insecure little things.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:35 PM
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5. Excellent summary of what's REALLY been going on in this primary season!
Thank you so much for all your work on this, BV!

:kick: :toast: :hi:
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:37 PM
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6. So Obama is already interviewing potential Cabinet Members???
It sounds to me like he's getting ready for day 1. :shrug: I have a difficult time seeing how that is a bad thing.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:44 PM
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8. Meantime, while we're all getting caught up with the Primaries, there's Bush and his NSPD 51...
...and I am not putting anything past this administration to incite something to justify a declaration of martial law/suspension of the Constitution just before the GE.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:46 PM
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9. Delusional bitter Hillbot nonsense
Hillary popular nationwide? That's baloney. She has long had sky high negatives. And full of lies. The London Times (Hilly's friend Murdoch's flagship paper) did not say that Obama was interviewing repukes for cabinet positions. This is pure Hillbot propaganda. Nothing more, nothing less.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:24 PM
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11. You sound like a Delusional bitter Abomanation.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:47 PM
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10. I remember in June 2004 when Kerry ssought out McCain to be his VP making it a "Dream Ticket"
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 12:48 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:45 PM
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13. Too bad McCain didn't accept
Kerry would probably be president today.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:49 PM
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15. Still relying on lies to prove your point, huh?
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 02:49 PM by ProSense
The story is complete BS.

Hillary's buddy McCain is a liar.

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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:42 PM
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12. Rove likes Obama. Rush likes Hillary.
Well, that's their choice, whatever their motivation. Am I supposed to not choose Obama because Rove chose him? Am I supposed to not choose Hillary because Rush chose her? Whatever. :shrug:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:54 PM
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17. Ann Coulter loves Hillary too.
And you're right; others' liking of x or y candidate should have no influence.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:47 PM
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14. NewsHounds -- "Limbaugh Urges Support For Clinton"
News Hounds
We watch FOX so you don't have to.

Rush Limbaugh Urges Support for Hillary Clinton on O'Reilly Factor
March 1, 2008

Last night, 2/29, Rush Limbaugh, speaking by phone to Laura Ingraham, urged people to vote for Hillary just to "sustain the soap opera" adding "we need Barack Obama bloodied up politically". Ingraham agreed, "Anything to keep the chaos going."

Limbaugh complained that the Republicans won't go after Obama because they don't have the stomach for it. He noted that the Democrats are tearing themselves up right now and since he wants McCain to win, Hillary needs to stay in the race. Limbaugh agreed that it would be really difficult to cross over and vote for a Clinton assuring viewers that he wants " funeral music" to play for Hillary but not right now.

http://www.newshounds.us/2008/03/01/rush_limbaugh_urges...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:52 PM
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16. Bill Clinton does the Limbaugh show:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:31 PM
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19. Rec!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:00 PM
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20. Thanks for the replies....
the editor was quite gracious in letting me post this.

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:42 AM
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21. Right. All of that. Or Hillary simply ran a shit campaign.
Sherlock Holmes would suggest the latter.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:03 AM
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22. Bamboozled again and trying to bamboozle other people. Such bullshit
I stopped reading after checking her first link. The Times article she mentions (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1680192,... ) doesn't even mention Rove or a Republican plot.

When dealing with any Clinton propaganda, ALWAYS go to the original URL and start checking the alleged sources.

The only vast right wing conspiracy is the one supporting Hillary.

I want Hillary to stay in this, Laura. This is too good a soap opera. We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically, and it's obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it and don't have the stomach for it.



So yes, I'm asking to cross over and, if they can stomach it I know it's a difficult thing to do to vote for a Clinton but it will sustain this soap opera, and it's something I think we need. It would be fun, too.

Rush Limbaugh


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334669,00.html


Just face the unpleasant truth. Americans like Obama and don't like Hillary. Do you want to win an election or fall on your sword?
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