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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:00 AM
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Has Anyone Here Switched Support For Your Candidate Because Of Something You Read Here?
If so, what exactly caused you to change your mind?

If not is there any reason for all the non-stop bickering? I come here mostly for news about MY preferred candidate, only to become distracted by the inane potshots in every thread. I often get caught up in the back and forth myself, but I make an effort to refrain from commenting in the threads of my opponents supporters unless they are just too outrageous or inflammatory. If more posters here would try conducting themselves like adults I'm sure it would make this forum a more enjoyable experience.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:03 AM
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1. Way back when, I avoided GDP, and was leaning towards Hilary,
but was letting it play out...by way back when I mean Novemeber...I don't know if what I read here pushed me towards her, but evcery time I come there is just so much BS that I don't believe I could vote for BO in the GE...by your logo, I'm sure you'll have issues with that...the past few days have been the worst...blaming everyone else for BO's mistakes.
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mculator Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:04 AM
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2. What about a dream ticket?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:09 AM
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6. Fine with me...although it ain't gonna happen...and I think BO will be the
one to blame...am I the only one who sees that Hilary is also angling for the VP slot? She's trying to come off as reconcilatory, and BO is just brushing her off...at a time when party elders are hoping this nomination gets resolved soon, that ain't good.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:18 AM
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10. I See It Differently...
She's said McSame is more qualified to be CIC in one breath and in the next promoting a dream ticket. I don't think she wants to be VP, and even if that's what she is angling for, why should he be pushed into taking on her baggage?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:24 AM
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11. and taking on her loyal supporters?
Now that's what I see here...Hilary is Satan...everyone hates her. News flash, she may not be winning the election, but she's pretty close behind...she has a lot of followers and BO supporters can't seem to understand that.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:36 AM
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15. I Was Referring To Her "Electability" Baggage
Democrats who would ONLY vote for her in the GE might reap what they sow. I think most Democrats will vote for either candidate regardless.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:02 AM
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20. Don't underestimate Hilary...all candidates have baggage, and as
we've seen, the point is to get the media to foucs on your opponent's baggage.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:01 AM
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19. She needs HIM, more than he needs her..
She's the one with the sky-high negatives
She's the one who's red meat for the knuckledraggers
She's the one whose popularity is more her husband's than hers


He's the one who's fired up a shitload of new voters to the party
He's the one who has a positive approach to the world problems

if the sooopers throw it to her, I'm guessing that most of the new people and many of the "old base" will sit this one out, so many of the voters she's counting on, willl not be there for her..

Mccain might screw up, but we can;t count on it
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:05 AM
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3. If someone has, that's pretty bad.
People should study in depth. Too bad so many Americans prefer rhetoric over reading and due diligence.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:05 AM
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4. Yes
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 08:06 AM by maddiejoan
I originally supported Kucinich, and Hillary was not an early consideration of mine. I made a switch due to what I saw as unfair attacks on Hillary. Now the attacks didn't 'change' my mind, what helped me realize the benefits to a Hillary Presidency came as a result of the research on her that I did when I found myself defending her.

Simply put -- Attacks against Hillary caused me to do more investigation --and I liked very much what I found.

Conversely --the more I found out about Obama -the less I liked.

Discussions on this board didn't sway me -- but they did cause me to take a deeper and more rational look at the candidates.
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Estel Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:04 AM
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22. Ditto, maddie
Exactly how I feel. I have been reading DU for years and considered it a great source of info, but no longer. Very little substance and alot of BS of late most notably by BO supporters. I even went to a BO rally here in my little Texas town and felt like I was at a religious revival! Yike... I won't even go into what happened at the caucuses, but they were totally hijacked by BO followers even though HC won the popular vote.
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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:49 AM
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23. Why don't you lay that out for us???
Please, it would be great to read something of actual substance from a Hillary supporter.

What about her did you decide you liked more than you thought you would and what about him did you decide you didn't like?

It would be great to know if this is soft-boiled or a well thought out position.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 10:59 AM
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24. I'd suggest you do your own research as I have done
and come to your own conclusion.


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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:06 AM
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5. Yes, I was hopeful for Obama but the hatred of his supporters
has made me reluctant.

I will support the Dem candidate, rather I will cast a vote for the Dem candidate, but I cannot stand with the Obama supporters that post here.

The arrogance and immaturity of the Obama folks who spit on the hard work and accomplishments of older progressive activists wo have been working for liberal change for decades is more then I can stomach.

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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:09 AM
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7. You don't know me, why do you hate me?
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:16 AM
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9. The reason I don't know you is that I've been busy working for
progressive causes and you never showed up to help.

Now you want to tell me and my brethren that our efforts at the barricades has been useless and even corrupt.

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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:26 AM
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12. This is humor right?
The reason you don't know me is that this is a message board on the internet.

You have no idea what you are talking about. I support Barack Obama, and there are many that man the barricades that do the same.

You are puffing yourself up.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:34 AM
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14. The reason people are turning on Obama is the arrogance
of his cult members.

The adults who are skeptical will not be lectured to by the X-box generation who have decided to show up and save the day.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:55 AM
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16. Xbox generation? You're so smart then...you know me so well...how old am I?
you are the one being arrongant...manning the barricades with you? your brethren? give me a break...

you are the adult (?) being lectured to by the X-box generation (would that be me?).

Can I let you in on a little secret...this is a message board on the internet, we are not storming the Bastille...
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:28 AM
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13. "Hatred of"
As in hatred of BO's supporters towards Hilary.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:57 AM
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18. Find my hatred and we'll talk.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:04 AM
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21. I was simply trying to clarify...seemed to me like you read that she
meant she hated BO supporters.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:10 AM
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8. You're right...whenvere I think it won't be bad if he gets the nom, I
come here, and wonder if I'll vote for him. I should just read about him in the newspapers...probably be more favorable towards him.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:56 AM
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17. My 77 year old mother switched from Clinton to Obama
not because of this site but because of the negative tone that came out of the Clinton campaign after Iowa. She was particularly upset by the rhetoric of Senator Clinton's husband, President Clinton during the SC primary. She, like I, is afraid that this divisive turn in what should be a celebratory primary season is going to allow McCain to sneak into the White House.

mike kohr
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