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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:16 AM
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MI caucus? Where is the outrage Hillary?
If Hillary Clinton honestly believes that she won MI and FL fair and square, then she should fight with all her fiber to oppose any redo. If she, or her campaign really thought they had won those states, they should be outraged. I have not seen that.

If they agree to a redo in these states (or accept them without protest) then the lack of outrage over the possibility that their "wins" be overturned, is a tacit admission that they never really bought the line that they won those states in the first place.

I so long for an honest discussion of what would be fair, by the actual campaigns. Why not admit that HRC doesn't want a caucsus cause she won't do well, or that Obama doesn't want a primary in FL because he would lose delegates relative to not seating them. Why not see if something can't be agreed to by all? Can't we agree that the first votes were irrelevant first? I don't think HRC believes they were fair, or her campaign would be ringing the bell that the election is being stolen...I guess we have to wait until she loses before we hear that refrain.

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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:22 AM
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1. Yep, that's the long and short of it.
There needs to be a second election campaign in both of those states, and Clinton's supporters should rally behind the idea. Why don't they?
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:24 AM
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2. Michigan doesnt count, or does it? I am confused, no wait
if Hillary wins, it counts. If she loses, it doesnt count. Ok, I'm good now
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:24 AM
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3. Caucuses in Michigan are really just primaries. They just call them caucuses
to indicate that the party, not the state, is paying for them.

I'm not sure whether Hillary was aware of that when she spoke out against having a caucus in Michigan.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:25 AM
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4. I may be wrong, but I think Sen. Clinton just wants the FL delegates seated
as they stand. :eyes:
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:29 AM
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5. no, she wants both...
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 05:59 PM
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8. OMG! That's even worse. n/t
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:35 AM
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6. Wait a minute.
Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. How can she see that as fair?
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:37 AM
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7. ask her, or her supporters, not me...
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LiveLiberally Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 06:05 PM
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9. "Honest Discussion" at this point in the primaries??? Dream on...
But I get wistful for something rational too....
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