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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:02 PM
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Help Vett Hillary
She (and some of her supporters) like to pretend she's squeaky clean compared to Obama, how about a quick list of things that Obama might use, or that the opposition will use going forward

Her support of the war is obvious, McCain can't use that - she recently called for the US to take action in Venezuela so she's definitely a hawk

Her support for Land Mines and Cluster Bombs? - McCain liked that one too

Her strident support for NAFTA - Still with McCain

Her bungling of health care reform last time (by trying to turn it into a subsidy for insurance companies) - McCain will call her on that

Her pretending that Bills success' were really hers but his failures were his alone - that one will blow up on her

Then there are the old ones - from Whitewater to Filegate, Mena, Arkansas etc.,

Feel free to continue the list
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:24 PM
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3. Got links? Got proof?
Whitewater? Do you remember Whitewater? If you did, you'd know she and Bill got a clean record thanks to Mr. Starr! The only thing that investigation did was to prove they were innocent!

Jeez...
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:26 PM
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4. It'll come up anyway
along with all the other sh*t. She likes to pretend she's clean, that they have nothing to go after her but that, like everything else in her campaign is a lie.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:43 PM
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10. At the risk of repeating myself...
Got proof? Got links? I think it makes people look really stupid to bring up non-issues like Whitewater. If there had been the slightest shred of impropriety in that deal, or any other deal the Clinton's have been involved in, we would know all about it. They have been under the microscope for over 15 years now, and the RW would love to nail them with something. The fact they have never even come close speaks volumes. Bringing up these old bones that went nowhere smacks of desperation.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:46 PM
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11. Here's a link. Where is the media on this?
Have any of her Democratic opponents, including Obama, sought more detailed answers from her about stories such as:

Norman Hsu and his bundling of money for her campaign?

How "dishwashers, waiters and others" poured "$1,000 and $2,000 contributions into Clinton's campaign treasury?"

Bill's trip to Kazakhstan with Canadian magnate, Frank Giustra, that netted Giustra $3 billion and Bill's foundation a $131 million contribution from Giustra?

How powerful foreign donors to Bill's presidential library, such as the Saudis, may pose a serious conflict of interest to Hillary's foreign policy actions as president?

How Bill's tangled ties to an investment concern of Clinton friend, Ron Burkle, and it's dealings with Dubai may yet, again, threaten to compromise Hillary Clinton's execution of foreign policy as president?

The fact that with all of these questionable financial dealings, the Clintons have been unwilling to release their tax returns, especially in light of Hillary Clinton claiming that the $5 million she lent the campaign was "her own money?"

And, finally, though we, as Democrats, don't care who Bill schtupps (and, no, none of us believe he has kept his fly zipped the last seven years), you can be damn sure the Republicans will be digging hard (no pun intended) to see just what Bill has been up to since leaving office.




http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/5/151147/0655/52/469804
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:28 PM
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5. here's a primer
there's plenty of dirt to go around

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/after-a-few-wellmannered-rounds-its-time-for-the-fight-for-the-white-house-to-get-down-and-dirty-792782.html

The problem is - if he goes there, he's just like any other politician... and an inexperienced one at that!
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:32 PM
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6. He's as experienced as she is
and cleaner.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:35 PM
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7. sure
*snort*
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lmbradford Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:58 PM
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9. so you are saying...
that after Laura Bush served one term as senator, she will be amazingly experienced because not only does she have all of Hillary's experience but also it was in a time of war.....WOW!


I don't buy it...
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:51 PM
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13. That's so untrue
He could expose this false personna without being like any other politician.

That makes no sense.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:49 PM
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8. A Canadian stirring sh*t.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:47 PM
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12. Go suck a moose
this isn't a site for gathering right-wing smears against Democrats. There are other sites for that.
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