My god Is this really going to the convention??? We are so FUCKED.

[angie_love]

Sorry to be doom and gloom but this is horrible news for democrats. The party is extremely split. McCain is laughing right now.

[Unsane]

1. Hopefully Barack can hang on and win TX.

Otherwise I agree. This is horrible news.

[sjdnb]

74. Uh ... sorry, not gonna happen

While he might have thought his savior like status would glide him into the nomination, guess what?

The majority of us are not racist/sexist enough to vote for anyone based solely on race or gender ... we're voting for who we think will serve us best.

[Beausoir]

2. God forbid that DEMOCRACY is allowed to work! Heavens above! Count the votes????

What a novel concept.

[KittyWampus]

23. Democracy would be like if your candidate had bothered to contest all 50 states.

[chascarrillo]

28. Touche! nt

[Beausoir]

34. Your post is incoherent. Try again...in English.

[chascarrillo]

24. Try counting the delegates. Obama won. Why draw it out? nt

[dorktv]

32. He has won 2,025 delegates? When was this?

[trueblue2007]

33. Why draw it out. That is STUPID and it's why Bush assumed Presidency.

GORE SHOULD HAVE DRAWN IT OUT!!

I applaud Hillary's fighting spirit. Women who fight are NOT bitches any more than men are.

[Beausoir]

35. You're goddamned right! Enough of this rolling over bullshit. A fight is a fight!

Bring it on.

[chascarrillo]

39. Yeah! Let's beat each other up! Fuck yeah!!!

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

[Beausoir]

42. Let's, for once, not cave in the face of adversity! YEAHHHHH!

No more folding when things get tough.

No more expecting Dems to just bend-over everytime the wind changes.

I want a fighter...and I've got one.

[chascarrillo]

51. And she lost.

Sorry.

[Beausoir]

58. She won. And will not quit. No matter how much you want her to fold like the previous candidate,

she will not fold.

Sorry. You are just going to have to learn to accept that.

We're not going away.

[dorktv]

40. now now, we all know that women should step aside and let the man

take his rightful place in front of her.

[Beausoir]

45. Isn't that the truth! Well, the OLD truth. The NEW truth is...she's in this to win!

Not going away.

[dorktv]

48. heehee

[Bluebear]

3. So let McCain laugh. Maybe he'll cough out his teeth. Maybe we'll nominate John Edwards.

[Cass]

53. LOL!

Maybe he'll cough out his teeth.

:rofl: :spray:

[medeak]

4. and every rightwing radio host n/t

[msanthrope]

50. And we should give a shit about what rightwing radio hosts think? n/t

[Skittles]

68. and we REALLY care what they think

oh yeah

[Trajan]

5. I am more worried about DU than the convention ....

The convention will unify .... DU is splintered ....

[medeak]

8. am looking forward to the old DU returning

before all the new Obamites and Hillbots got on board.

[Trajan]

18. YEAH BUDDY ....

It's been a goddamned asylum here ....

Funny how I came here for brotherhood some 6 years ago, and now I find it as appealing as a leaky carbunkle ....

[medeak]

30. have heard the same from others

DU saved my sanity but now I have to be away to keep it.

[4_Legs_Good]

11. I absolutely agree!

I've avoided DU pretty much through the whole primary season, but it is, of course, the best place to get the latest. It's painful these days, though.

David

[meow mix]

6. Humfrey

all over..

[4_Legs_Good]

7. Agreed

Bleh.

David

[parasim]

9. I know what you mean...

It seems, by this time we would be able to have a solid nominee to make sure we get back the Whitehouse. But, no, we're still going to go for another few months of Democrats bashing Democrats. Shit!

[BlueJac]

10. Hillary will drag us down to the mud......

She is the poison past that people are fed up with!!!


She would vote for Mc Fool

[Beausoir]

59. Hint: You're already there.

[DuaneBidoux]

12. if it does i agree.

[CyberPieHole]

13. For the sake of the party Obama should quit his campaign of Smears and Lies...

He still has time to go back and vote "present" on some legislation.:evilgrin:

[Skoods]

14. Like I said before...

If Obama wants to drop out that's okay.

[Born_A_Truman]

15. I see it differently...

We have two awesome candidates! The other side has McCain.

[dorktv]

21. Lovely...some sense!

[angie_love]

27. 2 more months of dems bashing dems??? It doesn't do anything but hurt us!

I'm sorry but this is bad news.

[Hoof Hearted]

29. Every primary involves more and more people in the process!

Voters are being signed up in record numbers. This is good for us.

[JAbuchan08]

78. McCain has superior experience to both of our candidates

at least we know that both of our candidates opposed the war and refuse to fearmonger... oh... wait. That's right.... nevermind.

[Catherine Vincent]

16. I don't think I can take it.

nt

[meow mix]

17. Thanks to the Old Guard being "traditional", we lose once again

[Algorem]

19. democracy.bummer.

like tweedlehillary and tweedleobama shouldn't be even

[chascarrillo]

20. Fucked like we've never been fucked before. nt

[Fox Mulder]

22. It's getting nuts.

They should give all the delegates to Kucinich. :D

[lastliberalintexas]

60. As I posted elsewhere, Kucinich/Edwards is THE unity ticket

:)

[Fox Mulder]

69. I agree.

Or Kucinich/Gore.

:)

[lastliberalintexas]

72. No way

It would have to be Gore/Kucinich. And since Gore was originally my candidate this time around, I would be even happier with that! :)

[Fox Mulder]

75. Either way, we both win.

:)

[backscatter712]

25. We just lost November.

The GOP is now united and turning their shitslinging machine on us, and we'll be too busy flinging shit at each other for at least seven more weeks to mount a defense.

Rush Limbaugh is laughing right now.

Obama will get the nomination, but after Hillary hits him with more of her venom, he'll be damaged goods by the time the primaries are over.

We should have put it away tonight. We blew it. And now the country will likely pay the price in years of war, raving lunatics on the Supreme Court and possible martial law.

[PFunk]

38. My thoughts exactly

And wait until Obmama starts hitting back with his negative campaigns against her. Combined with a increasively divided democratic party due to this mess we all better get used to saying president McClain folks.

Damn.

[backscatter712]

55. If Obama goes negative...

and he'll probably be forced to, he'll alienate millions of the new blood voters that had brought me so much hope earlier.

We're back to the same old shit.

Hope you're happy, Hillary-Harpies. You cost us November. Guess that's an egg you're perfectly willing to turn into an omelet in 2012.

[billyoc]

26. It's past McCain's bedtime.

This won't go to the convention. :hi:

[Roxy66]

31. Keith is going off....wow

[mindfulNJ]

36. All I know is

that I will NOT be hanging around DU for awhile after tonight. I was SO hoping things would be decided tonight and we could get on to the business of beating McCain.

*sigh*

[aquarius dawning]

37. Not necessarily. The prolonged Democratic horse race could easily overshadow the Republican game.

America is watching Hillary and Obama, not John McCain. You couldn't buy this kind of publicity.

[angie_love]

41. NO, Hillary and Obama bashing each other for 2 months is good for the party???

I don't think so. This gives McCain time to prepare for his GE while we are still duking it out. No way around it, this is BAD.

[dorktv]

43. damn straight...plus the Rs have to spend money against TWO candidates!

[Strawman]

56. That's true up to a point

Up to the point where both of them are creating soundbytes for McCain's general election ads. And up to the point where people get so sick of them slinging mud at one another that McCain seems more palatable and above the fray to independent and swing voter types.

I don't know at what point the marginal benefit of interest in the Democratic race and participation in the Democratic primaries outweighs the marginal cost of shit flinging and infighting. Maybe Pennsylvania, probably no further than North Carolina which represents the outer limits of this contest in my imagination.

[aquarius dawning]

57. America loves a knock down drag out Rocky Balboa Vs Clubber Lang style fight

America is eating this up. Don't kid yourself, this fight just became interesting again.

[Strawman]

61. Oh yeah, I agree with you for the most part

But I think there is, ultimately, a point of diminishing returns that we haven't reached yet. A point where other considerations trump the benefit of the extra media attention. As much as it would make for compelling TV for CNN and MSNBC, it's not good for us if this gets decided in South Dakota in June or Denver at the end of August in a (borrowing your analogy) Balboa-Creed style final round where both boxers are knocked down and struggling to get up before the ten count.

[aquarius dawning]

63. Win, lose, or draw, let the battle be glorious. amen.

[krabigirl]

44. I think that's great! Keeps the media focusing on the Dems.

[Zachstar]

46. Laughing? No Happy with tears while he is jumping on the preverbial bed.

This has been the best night for the republican party in 8 years!! Not only did they solidify their position. They have been given the cherished green light to use negitivity and fear mongering to win the election.

NOTHING! NOTHING! could have helped the republicans more than the past few days. Where it has been proven that swiftboating and fear mongering WINS VOTES.

The supers need to flock tomorrow before Clinton is allowed to destroy the party even more.

This is a sad day. Tho there is still great hope that Obama will still have a net gain in delegates from today after most is counted by this time tomorrow.

Yes it is great the clinton will no longer be able to pull the 100 net delegates or so to convince the party who she recently betrayed, That they need to continue to allow this bullshit to continue. Yet even when Clinton exits there the republicans will pick up where Clinton left off meaning Obama will be in for a battle with vicious republicans given the green light by Clinton's tactics to use swiftboating and sick crap to win.

A sad day.

[RememberWellstone]

47. No, Obama is screwed.

Better come up with an actual agenda....not just a bumper sticker.

[Algorem]

49. everytime john mccain laughs an angel gets its hernia brace

[Seabiscuit]

65. LMAO .... oh man that's funny! nt

[BadgerLaw2010]

52. Grow up Obamabrats.

[LiberalAndProud]

54. Buckle up. We're in for a stormy ride.

We had damn well better win the White House in November. That is all.

[Seabiscuit]

62. So F-in what if this goes to convention. What are you scared about and who are

you listening to that says the democrats are split anyway. McCain is so senile he won't know the difference.

[Unrepentant Fenian]

66. Go Hillary !!!

She has what it takes to win the General, and after that, a second term. If B.O. gets the nod, he'll win the General, but will soon become overwhelmed with the pile of smokin' shit bush left behind. He'll stumble, fail and will not win a second term!

[On the Road]

64. What's Wrong With Going to the Convention?

We got FDR that way.

[Dob Bole]

67. Good. More continuous free press of Obama winning elections. nt

[aquarius dawning]

71. You haven't been paying attention, have you?

[ClayZ]

70. Why do we pass up the SHINOLA?

and settle for......!

[Soon2bRenditioned]

73. Both can campaign and go after McCain

I think Hillary needs to tone it down. The delegate count is close. I think it is early to say wrap this up. If Obama had won in both TX and OH, I think I would be writing differently.

I do think that Clinton needs to rethink her approach, specifically stating that McCain is better than Obama on national security. No matter how you cut it...that is not good for the party.

Draw on your differences...attack McLame for what he is? A lap dog, a shill, a reformer in corporate clothing.

[struggle4progress]

76. Both trashing McCain continually could make for a jolly spring

[angie_love]

77. Its not going to happen, they're going to trash each other!!!

Hillary will be the worst offender in going after Obama. Not one peep from her about mccain except to say hes better qualified to be commander in chief, how does that help us again???????????????????????????????????????

[struggle4progress]

80. They better not! We'll send them to their rooms without dessert!

[LWolf]

79. Who's fucked?

All those of us who haven't yet voted in our primaries?

You would prefer that WE be fucked, having no vote or voice in our party's nomination?