OK. The Gloves Are Coming Off! Demand the Clintons Release Their Tax Records.

[David Zephyr]

When one's candidacy is funded by lobbyists,

When your husband has had financial dealings with foreign interests and dubious characters,

When your husband pardoned one of the most corrupt crooks of the decade without giving an explanation,

When you have advocated and supported the invasion of a nation for no reason whatsoever that happened to have the 3rd largest oil reserves on earth,

When your chief campaign strategist and manager is also the CEO (not just an employee) of a firm that worked for Blackwater,

When you are running to be the President of the United States and accuse your opponent --- who has released his tax records and who refuses lobbyist money --- of not being trustworthy,

And then when you refuse to release your tax records to the public, it is only natural to suspect there's something you do not want the public to see. Why the refusal?

DEMAND THAT HILLARY CLINTON RELEASE HER TAX RECORDS NOW! IT'S TIME TO MAKE THIS A BURNING ISSUE.

WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?

[DURHAM D]

1. A made up issue by Obama camp to avoid Rezko discussion. eom

[movonne]

6. It is wonderful how you can come up with excuses...and what about

her endorsement of mccain???

[DURHAM D]

18. "endorsement of mccain?"

Obama supporters still making shit up.

Can't your guy win on merit? Never mind - Apparently not.

[snooper2]

47. 11 in a row to date..

and still counting...


GOBAMA! Just say no to more of the same Clinton INC.

[blm]

8. I'll have Rezko discussion with you AND raise you a Jackson Stephens confab.

Care to talk? Bring your sense of proportion - if you can find where you left it.

[DURHAM D]

Can we talk about "the book deal"? eom

[blm]

26. Bill never mentioned BCCI one time in his book, yet the same characters he protected

when he deep-sixed those matters, many of them popped up again on 9-11, 2001, and in our sabre-rattling at Iran.

Why do you think Clinton decided to not mention in his book anything at all about why he deep-sixed all those matters for GHWBush and Jackson Stephens, Dubai and Saudi royals, Marc Rich, James Bath, AQ Khan, Bin Ladens, et al....????

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[blm]

31. So says someone who thinks that knowing our nation's actual record is a disorder.

The pride some Dems take in being ignorant of the contents of the National Security Archives is just unfathomable to those of us CITIZENS who take that duty seriously.

Your judgment shows that you think a wannabe Chicago player is a threat to this nation while the man who brought BCCI into this country along with GHWBush deserved protection from Bill Clinton throughout the 90s ven as BCCI matters left outstanding led directly to Bush2, 9-11 and this Iraq war.

[UndertheOcean]

28. Hillary made it an issue by not releasing her records

[thereismore]

2. I am sure there is a reason they are withholding the release. nt

[UndertheOcean]

30. Where there is smoke there is fire

[NightWatcher]

3. maybe Marc Rich is still paying them for his pardon and she doesnt want to show it

http://www.time.com/time/2007/presidential_pardons/10.html

MARC RICH, 2001
In 1983, financier Rich was indicted for evading more than $48 million in taxes, and charged with 51 counts of tax fraud, as well as running illegal oil deals with Iran during the 1979-1980 hostage crisis. During his last week in office, President Bill Clinton pardoned Rich, who had fled the U.S. during his prosecution and was residing in Switzerland. Clinton's eleventh-hour move, along with pardons of his half-brother, Roger, and former business partner Susan McDougal, outraged Republicans and Democrats alike. The Rich pardon sparked an investigation into whether it was bought by the hefty donations Rich's ex-wife, Denise, had given to the Clintons and the Democrats. In the end, investigators did not find enough evidence to indict Clinton.

[LeftCoast]

4. Why should I hold Clinton to a different standard?

:shrug:

[MoonRiver]

5. Oh noes, David Zephyr is taking his gloves off!

Be afraid, be VERY afraid! :scared:

[movonne]

7. That is a good thing...

[Maribelle]

9. The legal due date is April 15th. I'll bet that's Hillary's as well.

I believe it is illegal to demand tax returns before midnight of April 15th. You should check into this before you get yourself in trouble with Uncle Sammy.

[David Zephyr]

13. Duh..that's a filing deadline and has nothing to do with releasing to the public your tax records.

You might want to think before you post. Obviously, we are speaking about her recent returns that are already filed.

[Maribelle]

39. So, because a bunch of demamding O supporters say so, she should fall down and do what you say?

It's not a requirement. If this pisses you off so badly, get to work and have the rules changed.

[VolcanoJen]

15. OK, you win. Now, how about her 2006 tax records?

(tapping my foot)

[Maribelle]

35. Perhaps she feels her 2006 financial disclosure to the Senate is sufficent for now

It is not a requirement for now

[VolcanoJen]

37. Or perhaps she's hiding something.

Or perhaps I should "take her at her word" when she promises she'll, you know, get around to releasing those tax records.

[Maribelle]

40. You only wish she is hiding something.

Hillary has been around the sun too many times to fall into that trap. Give it a rest.

[VolcanoJen]

45. So prove it. There is no other logical reason to hold back tax records from 2006.

There isn't. Stop deluding yourself.

[David Zephyr]

49. At this late point, after so much excuse making, it's clear there's something to hide.

There's no other reason for them hiding their tax returns which will reveal how they have made their income these past years and from whom.

[Laurab]

19. Um - Obama released his. She has refused to.

She dances around the issue, saying she'll release them if she's the nominee. When pressed, she said she'll TRY to release them sooner. She's hiding something, and it couldn't be more obvious.

[Maribelle]

36. Obama merely wanted to show off - - it's not a requirement, you know

[thereismore]

46. Blinders on? nt

[Laurab]

48. Show off? I think not.

He showed he had nothing to hide. Hillary does. If she didn't, she wouldn't have made it into such a big deal - we can't exactly change our vote if she's the nominee, can we now? But that's when she'll release them, supposedly.

Her excuses for not releasing them are pitiful, as well. A lot of things aren't a "requirement", but it sure helps if the candidate is forthcoming with the information. Now, think - why would she not want to release them?

[goclark]

10. Don't forget Wal Mart

The Union Workers that she is snow jobbing don't have a clue how she undermined them.

[meow mix]

11. she promised on a national debate to have them out by now..

shes a liar

[Arkansas Granny]

12. Are the candidates required to release their tax returns as part

of the financial disclosure or is it just common practice for them to do so? If it's not a requirement then why is it such a big issue even if other candidates have already released theirs.

[meow mix]

14. because she told us on a national debate she would absolutly do it, and it was a lie

:mad:

[MonkeyFunk]

54. No, she didn't say she'd have them out by now

But why tell the truth when a good lie suits your agenda?

[meow mix]

56. Before Today.(today is the deadline) is what debate said her target would be. it was a lie.

she is a LIAR

[Binka]

23. She Was Asked In The Debate & She Promised Disclosure

She didn't say let me wait until April 15th she said she would release them, she hasn't. She is a fucking LIAR. And if you can not understand why this is a big deal you are dense.

[KittyWampus]

16. Best Attack for Obama- "Hillary abandoned 30 states. Ignores WY & PA". Use her fucked up campaign

against her.

Obama- "I want to President of all 50 states so I've built organizations and run campaigns in all 50 states. Hillary has abandoned 20, she thinks YOUR state doesn't count."

[1776Forever]

17. Right on!!! This is getting ridiculous - And how about the Clinton's Rezko - Vin Gupta - Read link!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4867159&mesg_id=4871180

[rinsd]

20. Less than 1% of her total campaign contributions equals funded by lobbyists?

"who refuses lobbyist money"

Caveat: He refuses to take money from currently registered federal lobbyists.

He has a former lobbyists as a top advisors and bundlers and takes money from people at lobbying firms that are not registered lobbyists.

Does it matter that he take lobbyist dough when its such a small percentage of his total? No.

Do I think he is bought off? No.

Does he act hoilier than thou while still remaining cozy with the supposed tainted interests? Yes.

[David Zephyr]

24. What is she hiding?

Release the tax returns.

[complain jane]

21. Oh so wait,

Obama supporters are mad at Hillary for "attacking" Obama (which amounts to pointing out the fact that he doesn't have much experience compared to her), but it's perfectly acceptable for Obama supporters to "attack" Hillary.

And that's not a double standard, is that correct?

And it's Hillary's fault that the Dem party is divided, and she's "nasty" for attacking a Dem, but fine for you guys to do it. Do I have that right?

Taking me a while to get the hang of the rules here on Obama Underground, bear with me.

[KittyWampus]

27. at this point, if she insists on this charade and continuing, he has to.

[complain jane]

33. I see... so I did have it right.

[Jonathan2000]

22. Hillary has had it easy so far

It’s not true that Hillary has been fully vetted concerning past Clinton scandals. At the time, the press was more interested in Bill’s involvement rather than Hillary’s and the issue of Hillary’s judgment was not relevant. This is part of her lifetime experience she now promotes.

[kentuck]

25. Obama is acting presidential in all of this..

No doubt, there is plenty to go negative on Hillary with, if he wanted. Plenty. But he is not getting in the mud just yet.

[VolcanoJen]

34. It's one of the many reasons he's winning.

Americans across the country have responded to his positive message. Clinton should try it, maybe she'd stop the free-fall.

But that's not fucking likely. :-)

[David Zephyr]

50. He's a better man than me.

I think the Clintons were so confident that she'd sew up the nomination by Super Tuesday that they figured there'd never be a call for them to release their taxes.

There's definitely something smelly in their refusal to release their tax records.

Tolerance of this has gone on too long. I gave it a pass thinking she'd pull out gracefully and because I never expected to see such shit slinging by the Clintons against a good Democrat.

Now the spotlight on their income sources must be focused.

[Tatiana]

52. Why would she wait until after she was the nominee to release the records unless....

There was something in the records that would prevent her from becoming the nominee.

[David Zephyr]

53. Tatiana, I don't think they ever intended to release the records.

They thought they'd never have to campaign past Super Tuesday in the primaries and figured no Republican would challenge them on the tax return issue.

They were wrong.

We need to make it the burning issue after tonight.

She must release the returns or it's obvious there's something very smelly that they don't want the public to see. There is no other rationale for them hiding their income sources.

[Tatiana]

55. You're probably right. Actually... yeah, you're absolutely right.

I spent half the morning calling the offices of some supers in CA, and let me tell you, the Hillary supporters are very nervous. I keep hearing "this won't go till June."

Either these people are completely naive or they are willfully refusing to see what's in front of their eyes. Hillary has opened an office in WYOMING. She plans to take this to Puerto Rico (where she will LOSE AGAIN).

Her stubbornness is astounding.

[jackstraw45]

32. When you "loaned" your campaign FIVE MILLION DOLLARS of money from MYSTERY sources....

That's the biggest reason.

WHO is funding her campaign? WHERE did that $5 million come from?

[Barack_America]

38. Hillary, where did the money you loaned to your campaign come from?

Who did you meet with when you were First Lady and how did this provide you with "executive" experience?

I demand to know!

[Vinca]

41. She won't release them until it's too late. She's hiding something. nt

[Maribelle]

42. Ha ha ha - putting those widdle pinkies your trying to show off aside

having temper tantrums will not change the rules.

[Beausoir]

43. Yawn. Nobody cares.

[Perry Logan]

44. Cut it out, guys. The Loungers are laughing at us already.

[Omega3]

51. you obots are funny, I laugh every time I read this shit, she endorsed McCain, tax records , thanks

:bounce: :toast: :nopity: :hurts: :hi: :puffpiece: :tinfoilhat: :cry: :rant: :rofl:


where the : :popcorn:

[meow mix]

57. wheres the records?

[psychopomp]

58. What are they hiding? Indeed

I, for one, am curious...