"Are you experienced. . . Have you ever been experienced. . .? Well I have."

[stellanoir]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36O5FaGvlms&feature=related

I'm sick and tired of this stupid "experience versus change" meme. As if. . .they are mutually exclusive or something.

As Will.I.am so astutely put it

". . .no one on this planet is truly experienced to handle the obstacles we face today...
Terror, fear, lies, agendas, politics, money, all the above...
It's all scary...

Martin Luther King didn't have experience to lead...
Kennedy didn't have experience to lead...
Susan B. Anthony...
Nelson Mandela...
Rosa Parks...
Gandhi...
Anne Frank...
and everyone else who has had a hand in molding the freedoms we have and take for granted today...

no one truly has experience to deal with the world today...

they just need "desire, strength, courage ability, and passion" to change...
and to stand for something even when people say it's not possible...

America would not be here "today" if we didn't stand and fight for
change "yesterday"...
Everything we have as a "people" is because of the "people" who fought for
change...
and whoever is the President has to realize we have a lot of changing to do. . ."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william/why-i-recorded-yes-w_b_84655.html

Bottom line is that the Presidency and that sort of empowerment truly transforms a person. Member * speaking against Nation building? Hah.

If experience is based on mostly incessantly intractable partisan pandering, and triangulation and utter BS, that is not what will guide us into the promise of our future,

I'm experienced in merely contemplating for my whole life, a better world to come.

That vision was reinforced on Friday.

I stumbled across this great article (http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?bid=15&pid=292522 )moments shortly after seeing Will.I.Am's latest inspired effort for the first time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSJsEVf0pU

Having been nauseated by a foreign policy comprised primarily on bellicosity in recent years, I was thrilled to hear of a far more enlightened approach.

When I arrived at the phrase about Barack's desire to "expand the bandwidth," I had a vision.

I've had them before. Some have come true. This was one of the more, if not the most powerful one I've ever had.

I envisioned a Peace Summit involving representatives of conflicted nations such as Iran, Israel, Palestine, and other nations being held at the Imagine Peace Tower in Iceland http://www.imaginepeace.com/tower.html during the first year of an Obama Presidency. It felt as though it could be in the Spring.

Let's make it so. It would be so powerfully symbolic of an entirely new era and would be a clarion call to the world that we're changing our failed Imperialist, big stick, no carrot, and insensitive approach to world affairs.

We are all ONE after all.

I personally am way past being sick of fighting.

Have a nice day and have a wombat

http://www.global-mindshift.org/memes/wombat.swf

"nam-myoho-renge-kyo"

[shadowknows69]

1. "Aww, let me prove it to you"

[stellanoir]

3. Okay and gimmee a Peace Summit while you're at it.

:hi:

[WillyT]

2. Yes... Yes I Am Experienced

Saw him live, shortly before his death.

:hippie:

[stellanoir]

8. Never caught him

I was too young. But I did catch one of his protégées early on and then towards the end at Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel and later at the Wiltern Theatre. Both funny stories I'll tell someday.

This one's kinda goofy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L86fonUDIb4

This is one of the more sensual songs of all time IMHO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kpkSRtcrR0

Thanks for the great pict.

[NightWatcher]

4. let's all keep visualizing a better world and working to bring it about

[0007]

25. Dick Gregory said it best Saturday night in a five star performance.

The best I've ever seen. It was on cspan2 and will probably be played again. I'm thinking about getting a copy from scpan2. It was that good. All the heavy hitters were there talking. I think it was the Travis Smiley show. At least he was hosting the speakers.


The greatest cat that ever trample heavily on this jumping green sphere.
Lord Buckley was another one of my favorites.

[DemGa]

5. Do I hear trumpets and violins?

Hmm, perhaps, but this one only a guise for a false prophet. Getting deep now.

[NightWatcher]

6. yes, what a bunch of losers

Martin Luther King
Kennedy ...
Susan B. Anthony...
Nelson Mandela...
Rosa Parks...
Gandhi...
Anne Frank...

[DemGa]

7. Indeed

Barack Obama.

And it is obvious I called none from that list "losers." Only Barack Obama.

[anamandujano]

39. I'll second that.

[stellanoir]

10. I'm hearing celestial choirs LOL

[lapfog_1]

9. No one, but no one, running for President

other than someone has been President before, can claim "experience" at being President.

It's a job like no other, not Vice President, not Senator, and not First Lady.

Governors of states come the closest, Vice Presidents are somewhere behind them... which is why, in the modern era, we have chosen Governors and Vice Presidents almost exclusively.

But no one has the experience of being President other than the club of 42 former Presidents, of which only 3 are alive today.

[stellanoir]

11. yeah and for the first time in eons it looks as though it's gonna be a Senator

[lapfog_1]

13. The last one to jump from the Senate to the Presidency

wasn't such a bad fellow.

Kinda young and short on experience, but he *did* make some nice speeches!

[stellanoir]

15. LOL

You noticed

[Saturday]

12. As I just said in another thread....

if you don't think personally knowing and being friends with 90% of world leaders "experience" then I can't explain it to you. But continue bashing Hillary, you push poeple away from your candidate by doing so.

[stellanoir]

14. I didn't bash Hillary I only bashed the arguments about the supremacy of experience.

Ever heard of making new friends. . .?

[I Have A Dream]

16. I agree that experience isn't an absolute prerequisite to being...

a worthy candidate for the office of President of the United States.

[stellanoir]

17. That's precisely why I found Will.I.Am's words to be so profound.

Amazingly true really.

[grizmaster]

18. not necessarily stoned, but beautiful....

Hillary is still getting my vote, but if Obama gets the nod, I hope your right.

[stellanoir]

19. Thanks neighbor.

[femrap]

20. Just put on Jimi Hendrix, would ya? nt

[stellanoir]

21. Why the heck not ?

And they call McCain a maverick.

There is nothing remotely "maverick" about a war monger.

[DeepModem Mom]

22. No one is truly experienced, and what a list to prove it!

And what a stunning vision! I think I can believe in the possibility of that happening. Thank you, stella, as always.

[I Have A Dream]

23. Yes, we can always count on stellavision.

:)

[stellanoir]

26. Thanks hon

and I thought the notions of the stellaphone and the stellascope were funny,

That one never occurred to me so thanks again.

:hug:

[DeepModem Mom]

33. Good one! nt

[JeffR]

24. Hey, stop making sense!

:)
K & R!!!

[stellanoir]

27. "like. . .like. . .like. . .like. . .this is so-o-o cool"

she eloquently quoted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bfvkHNcgCc

Actually it is one of the better live shows of all time IMHO.

"mechanistic reductionism often masquerades as maturity"

or so it is said

[stillcool]

28. I disagree with the notion...

that Obama has no experience. While it may be true, that he was never at the bedside when the phone rang at 3 a.m., he has more legislative experience, and more of a diverse life experience than Hillary. Look at his campaign for an example of experience. If people want to vote for Bill's experience, that's fine. But suggesting that Obama has "no experience" is just horse shit.

[stellanoir]

29. Yeah I know.

He's had more legislative experience than he is oft credited with.

It's baloney that he has not.

Hil and Mac tout their experience all the time, but what the heck have they accomplished really?

It's crazy making for sure.

thanks

[stillcool]

30. "Crazy Making"...

that's a good one!

[stellanoir]

31. Not always but thanks anyhoo

[babylonsister]

32. Most excellent post, stellanoir! Thanks, and rec'd!

I couldn't get past Will.I.am's article. I wasn't around here in early Feb. and missed it. He's a musician and a poet!
And that video is awesome!

[stellanoir]

34. I never thought you were anything short of constantly attentive

But Oh my gosh you must have a life after all.

LOL

luv ya

edited to add a consonant (it was an "r") lol

[babylonsister]

35. I did that day...

my b'day is Feb 3rd, I was in MX w/my twin sister who I rarely see and our spouses. We are all HUGH!!1! NY Giants fans. The place we were in in MX was having an election, and no beers were sold til the Super Bowl started and they stopped serving alcohol the day before. Oooh, the hand wringing that went on! :rofl:

It was a good day, but I recognize what I missed! :hi: xoxox

[stellanoir]

36. someday let me do your chart luv

twins are fascinating really as are you

[babylonsister]

38. My horoscope? Sure. You

know my birthday! ;)I'll PM you.

[stellanoir]

37. Keep focusing on it and it'll happen

http://www.imaginepeace.com/tower.html

I swear.

Do it in John's name.

thanks

[goletian]

40. until someone is actually a president, they have no real experience

its really a dumb point to bring up. if history has shown anything, its that experience is completely irrelevant. the greatest presidents in history, founders, were inexperienced yet awesome. some have had lots of experience that didnt help them at all (see bush admin). its irrelevant. it might be good to see your record to see where you stand on certain things, other than that its not of much importance.

[stellanoir]

41. Yup

the defense or offense based solely on this argument is totally vacuous but I can believe how many people parrot it incessantly.

Welcome to DU.

[goletian]

42. imagine if presidents running for reelection ran on experience, lol

lol, imagine if george bush had done something like that in 2004. "dont vote for kerry because ive had 4 years of experience as president, vs his 0." its a silly argument.

thanks for the welcome!

[stellanoir]

43. The thoroughly weird thing about the shrub's pre presidential experience

is that he ran several businesses into the ground, couldn't find oil in Texas, usurped a family farm for his beloved baseball stadium, did insider trading with his Harkin stock, and the Texas governorship is said to have been one of the most ceremonial in the Nation. Almost nobody in the press scrutinized any of that stuff except for Molly Ivins and Jim Hightower. They both agreed that they tried to warn us and no one would listen.

[goletian]

47. exactly

experience is the refuge of conservatives.

[autorank]

44. K*R You're right -- there's nothing to fight aboutT

The issues are all clear - we're choking on our own filth and if you don't fix it, we're all dead in 20-30 years. The lead up to that will be a horror beyond words.

It's a matter of the so called leaders getting the message and letting us do something about it.

They can't. The industrialized world is ruled by fools who do nothing, say nothing, and line their pockets. Just look at France, England, and Germany...and us.

Lets get these clowns to do the people's business.

[stellanoir]

45. Hey

So do you want to argue about it. . . or what. . .?

Don't be a nay sayer pal.

We're up against enormous odds for sure.

But I believe in the tenacity of the human spirit despite over medication, constant distraction, apathy, corporate slavery, and struggle.

That and the Photon Belt, and we the people might just redeem us after all.

And then we may just get a hat trick from the Galactic Federation. Who knows?

So do you think I should do yet another voting machine prayer thread for tomorrow?

Still deciding and awaiting your wise counsel.

:hi:

& thanks

[autorank]

46. Photon belt?

Do I have one of those?

Too late for prayers. It's time for action.

Time to ignore those who think they're in charge. Act locally, act around the fools, enjoy.

They used to say "Living well is the best revenge." In the case of our time on earth,
"Simply living is the best revenge."