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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:23 PM Original message |
Electoral Math - Obama vs. Clinton |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. LOL - apparently BO supporters have NO IDEA how he wins |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Perhaps you should wait for more than 4 minutes. n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. You folks are slowing up--as most swarm onto a thread to diss it pronto. |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
74. Same old shtick....different day...gets tiring. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Wow. Cognitive Dissonance, thy name is MagsDem |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. LOL...you ask people to leave the flames out then start flaming on the first post. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. Quite the trick, isn't it? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Surprised Mags didn't pull a muscle. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. Many possible: VA, WV, CO, IA, OH, NM maybe even MO. |
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Blondiegrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
98. I'd take WV out of that equation. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. IA, NM, OH, VA, NC, SC, GA, MS, LA, AR |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. SC, GA, MS, LA |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Agreed. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. They think Obama will cause every black person to turn out and flip those states |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. They are so out of touch with reality is utterly stunning |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Look at post 19 |
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Blondiegrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
99. "Let's leave the flames out, if possible." |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I think those states |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. No, sorry |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. 1,000,000 |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. LMAO -- it's so not in play its not even being polled |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I saw a poll as of |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
58. There is some weird belief that whites don't vote monolithic and opposite of blacks in the South. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
89. I have white family in the south |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. You lose these states by 15-20 as it is. Why is Obama actually going to *win* one of them? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. Obama will turn rethugs into Democrats |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Or Obama may carry many Independent voters. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. New Mexico, Iowa, Colorado, Virginia |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. IA, NM, NV, OH, VA, CO |
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thesubstanceofdreams (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. NV, NM, IA and CO are VERY likely |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico, and possibly Virginia n/t |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
87. Obama could take Montana as well. |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
10. I think this is a better map, |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
11. Hill doesn't stand a chance in FL. against McCain |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
12. LOL!! Looks like the OP has fled. n/t |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. IA, NM, MS, OH, LA, IN, VA, WV, GA, and MO |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Why do some Obamites think he can win MS and GA? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. WJC won GA, and nearly won MS |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Where was WJC from? Chicago, Illinois? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Sorry, you live in the clouds |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. I don't think any of the deep southern states are going Democratic this year. |
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aasleka (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. wrong! Obama will win a few. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. NC and VA are completely different than SC and GA |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
67. Warner is the great "could have been" |
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aasleka (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
84. Edwards never even carried the primary here, (no offense John) |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
51. Did you click thru to any states on the map? |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
60. You guys are out of your minds. Prepare to be massively disappointed. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. Then there are states Gore won that Obama will lose |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Sorry, I don't see Obama losing MI |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. If disenfranchising of MI isn't an issue then he should win Michigan |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. I disagree, I cannot see either HRC or Obama losing MI |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Kerry won 51-48 and Gore won 51-46 |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The economic conditions though make it a good Democratic state I think |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
63. Michigan is not a safe state by any means. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. He wont lose Michigan |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. states obama can win: |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
48. Maybe IA |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Baloney. If Richardson was his VP, he'd have a lock on NM |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. You really need to look at the demographics of those states |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. I know the demographic of those states |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. You sure don't see to.... but let's look at the data we have |
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texas_indy (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
22. WOW,where can I get this Crystal Ball which everyone is using to predict the future??? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. The media has beat the Clinton "machine" not Obama |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
70. you have nothing but excuses. The media was only part of it |
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sundancekid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
32. repeating ALL of Kerry wins, we need 3 out 4 of CO, IO, NM, NV |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. And every damn one of those will go McCain |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. What exactly do you base that on. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. It's based on industrial strength Obama hate |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. Oh links please -- I gotta see this |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. okay, if you insist... |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Oh and one more thing. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
59. bwahahaha. The great Mags dresses up and plays phony oracle |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
35. Dream on -- all of you |
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thesubstanceofdreams (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Says the person who claims Clinton would win TN and FL |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I am very confident she would win FL and AR |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. She's trailing McLame by almost double digits there. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Which poll are you looking at? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Last poll in Florida I saw had Obama losing by 10, and Hillary losing by 9. |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I haven't seen many, honestly. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. No democrat wins FL |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. "And let's leave flames out of it, if possible. " says MagsDem, LOL |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. Your gotta laugh at someone that fucking out of touch |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. You're the ONE person I am really going to enjoy |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I'm enjoying laughing my ass off at you right now |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Don't be any money on it |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
64. LOL |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #64 |
91. It will be a hard enough road to travel down |
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Blondiegrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
100. Congratulations. How does it feel to be the biggest asshole on DU? |
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From The Left (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
47. The Real Issue for Hillary Is |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
72. Bingo. Let's look at Tuesday. (Aside: MagsDem says "leave flames out of it"??) |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. I agree - expect a suspension of the Clinton campaign on Wednesday |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Yep. This should already be over, but we'll wait it out. I just hope he wins both. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
80. Is it really that much harder to type "Obama" than it is to type "BO"? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
86. Impossible! You love to flame far too much. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. POT MEET KETTLE |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
92. Now Obama supporters, redo the math with Condi Rice, or Colin Powell on the ticket |
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Yurovsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I don't see either happening... |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 05:38 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. We will see, he has a particuliarly difficult task |
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Yurovsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Thnx for the link* |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 06:05 AM Response to Original message |
96. You have to give him VA, which is purple-blue at this point. CO, OH, TN, LA, + FL are on the table. |
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