Does "commander in chief" come to mind when you think of Hillary?

[theboss]

If she is going to be playing the "I'd be better in a crisis" mode, it legitimately opens the question of who would be a better commander in chief? Who would command the respect of the National Guard and military? Who could go into a tent in a flood zone and talk to the national guard or first responders?

To be completely honest, neither Clinton nor Obama want to go too far down this road, because it's really the only true advantage that McCain may hold on them. But does anyone really picture Hillary holding a bullhorn in the rubble of a town hit by a tornado?

It wasn't her husband's strength either - at least at first - but he was excellent in the role of the "Comforter in Chief." And she is insane if she wants to go head to head with Obama for that job. For God's sake, the man has Oprah's cell phone number.

[GarbagemanLB]

1. Whining over the order of questions? No, Commander in Chief is definitely not what comes to mind.

[ronnykmarshall]

2. UH ....

:wtf:

[theboss]

10. If you are going to play the "good in a crisis" card, you need to answer these questions

Who would be better in a swamp talking to the national guard?
Who would be better on a tarmac in Germany?
Who would be better in the rubble of a blown up shopping center?

Leadership in times of crises is part judgment, part instinct, and a large part presence.

[Tennessee Gal]

3. Yes, it does.

More so than Obama.

[joeybee12]

12. Agreed...however, I still think we're...most of us...have grown up

with a different image of who that should be...and, quite frankly, would anyone in this role be worse than Bush?

[Tennessee Gal]

47. I don't follow.

Are you saying that Obama presents a better image?

edit: typo

[Lucinda]

4. What does having Oprah's cell phone number have to do with leaderhsip?

[Maddy McCall]

5. I'm a woman first responder. Do you have a problem with that?

I can certainly see her as commander-in-chief.

[K Gardner]

11. The difference is, I'm sure you don't complain when you get a call.. no matter when it is.

[Maddy McCall]

16. I doubt she would "complain" if a national emergency required her immediate attention.

[theboss]

It's not a matter of her being a woman for Christ's sake

I can think of dozens of women who would be better in my view than Obama. It's a matter of her being Hillary Clinton.

[Zachstar]

26. WTF does gender have to do with this?

I see no sexism in the topic why are YOU bringing it up?

[theboss]

29. Part of my job has a disaster-preparedness component and my boss is a woman

And he is incredible at that aspect of our work. (She actually was part of the response to the attack on the Pentagon).

It has nothing to do with Hillary being a woman.

[K Gardner]

6. When I watch the Shame Rant and the Mocking Drama: No, definitely not CiC material.

[JimGinPA]

7. Yes

:rofl:

[woolldog]

13. Oh that's mean.

LOL....but funny.

[meow mix]

15. el presidente

:rofl:

[Bucky]

8. As a matter of fact, after 9/11 Sen Clinton did rally people near the rubble.

So, to answer your question, I would be very comfortable calling her CinC. Anyone elected president can confidently claim that title.

[tabasco]

9. Yes, since you asked.

A really incompetent Commander In Chief.

[Tennessee Gal]

14. Ask the people of NY.

[tabasco]

30. Ask the troops in Iraq.

on edit: Ask the troops in Walter Reed too.

[jmg257]

36. I am from NY - and sorry - but no. I do NOT think she is all that bad though.

[joeybee12]

17. BTW, is this really an issue considering who currently has that title???

[theboss]

20. Being better than Bush is not good enough

That's too low a bar to set.

[joeybee12]

25. True...but I think she'd be awesome in the role...

...level-headed, but in control.

[conservdem]

18. I support Obama, and I think both qualified to be commander in chief.

I think McCain is qualified too. I think Obama will be a better leader then both of them.

[theboss]

21. I think all are minimally qualified to be honest

But I didn't want to make the question "Who would be better?"

[Thepricebreaker]

19. Not one bit... n/t

[Breeze54]

22. No, BUSHitler comes to mind.

:grr:

[Hepburn]

23. No.....

...not even maybe do I want Hillary anywhere near any decision about using military force. The last time she did this, she definitely made the wrong decision....cannot trust her on this issue.

JMHO

[FedoraLV]

24. The Debate

I thought she looked very Senatorial during their last debate.

-FedoraLV

[MoonRiver]

27. Absolutely.

On the other hand, "Mr. I don't have enough time to hold a hearing for my Afghanistan committee, I'm too busy campaigning," decidedly DOES NOT.

[Muttocracy]

44. you mean the SFRC subcommittee on Europe?

Kerry is head of the SFRC subcommittee over Afghanistan

http://foreign.senate.gov/subcommittee.html

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

28. Yes, I Can. Obama Too. Shame On Those That Think She Couldn't Lead.

Some might feel that Obama would be better, but to say you can't see her being a leader or commander in chief is pathetic to me. She's a dem, and a good dem. She deserves a bit more respect.

[theboss]

31. I actually think she would be fine at it ultimately

The question I have, does the ad play to her strengths in the slightest?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. Sorry. Ain't Buyin It.

See ya! :hi:

[Arkansas Granny]

32. Yes, most definitely.

[progressive_realist]

33. If it's image you're talking about, I think she's fine

But Obama's response ad nails the problem perfectly -- she has shown consistently poor judgment.

I especially have a problem with her hostile attitude toward Putin. Yes, he's a nationalist thug, but he is also the only person in the world who could actually destroy the USA. What is she going to say when that phone rings at 3:00 AM? "Go to hell, Putin, you soulless bastard." No thanks!

(For the record, she has in fact called Putin soulless, for which he responded by calling her headless.)

[Raine]

34. Uh, NO nt

[shayes51]

37. Absolutely.

[invictus]

38. Hillary has shown herself to be too trigger happy. n/t

[DemGa]

39. Indeed yes.....nt

[NastyRiffraff]

40. Why, yes, as a matter of fact, it does. n/t

[applegrove]

41. I can easily see her as commander in chief. I believe she would be tough.

[apocalypsehow]

42. Sure. But it's a moot question, since she not going to be our nominee, Senator Obama is.

n/t

[pscot]

43. This "Commander-in-Chief" bullshit

has got to stop. I've been watching presidents for almost 60 years, through some very scary times, and the asshole now infesting the White House is the first one I can remember doing all this chest pounding about being C-in-C. We need to demilitarize the presidency. This isn't Sparta or Prussia, it's the good old U.S. of A. We are a popular democracy, not a military dictatorship. I don't recognize a Commander-in-Chief. George Bush is a little piss-ant of a man who has puffed himself up to 3X life size. It's time for him to go back to Texas and herd rabbits, and play with his chain saw. With any luck, he'll remove some vital part of his anatomy and the country will be shut of him for good.

[JeffR]

45. Great post!

:patriot:

[pnwmom]

54. You're damn right. We want someone who considers herself or himself

to be the PRESIDENT, first and foremost.

[invictus]

56. Thank you! Great post! n/t

[Breeze54]

57. Exactly! That term has been over-used by that cretin! And stop with "Homeland" as well!!

:grr:

We need to write a reformed vocabulary for the masses here.

They've been indoctrinated for the last 8 years, with this Hitler terminology. :grr:

We need to start a new DU Political Terminology Dictionary!

(a new one besides the DU one) (can't find the link to it now)

Get everyone back on point!

I hate RW words!! :grr:

[lastliberalintexas]

63. Hell freaking no

On Bush coming back to Texas, that is.


Otherwise, I agree. I don't remember Carter, Reagan, Bush I or Clinton playing Napoleon.

[leftstreet]

64. "This isn't Sparta or Prussia, it's the good old U.S. of A."

Excellent post!

[mmonk]

46. Commander in chief doesn't mean launcher of invasions

and wars. It means that if war is declared, the president is put in charge of the armed forces (decisions). Any so called perceived "advantage" in that area to McCain is just people who lust for bloodshed thinking a republican will be more likely to do it.

[anamandujano]

48. I didn't realize this was from "The Onion" until I read this.

"For God's sake, the man has Oprah's cell phone number."

Good one!

[Tennessee Gal]

49. Hillary did quite well in the rubble of NYC following 9/11.

The people of NY have given her their votes.

[pnwmom]

50. Of course not. Her voice isn't deep enough and she's too short.

Is that what you mean?

:sarcasm:

[theboss]

51. Why does everything have to be because she is a woman?

She would be far better than Edwards...and I voted for Edwards in '04.

[pnwmom]

53. I don't know. You tell me.

Of COURSE she seems capable of being Commander in Chief. Let's see, who have we had lately? The Shrub. The Bush. President Alzheimers. And Bill Clinton.

And you're asking me if HILLARY could be Commander in Chief???

Spare me. This is completely sexist, whether you realize it or not.

[theboss]

58. Am I sexist for thinking Edwards would be acutely bad at it?

Maybe I just don't like white people.

[pnwmom]

61. Or maybe you don't like people with thick hair.

Who knows?

:shrug:

[democrat_nanny]

52. Absolutely!

Ask Wes Clark.

[Warren Stupidity]

55. She would be a fine CIC.

As would Obama. McCain: not so much.

[terrya]

59. Yes, it does come to mind. n/t

[Autumn]

60. Yes

Works quite well for me.

[Palladin]

62. She's as qualified

as Madeleine Albright. She wouldn't be a little fetishist nut about it like Bush the Less, doesn't have anything to prove psychologically. Certainly preferable to shatter brain McCain, who would be a world danger if his finger's on the button. Unfit for any kind of command.

[Raejeanowl]

65. I Don't See Her As WORSE Than Obama

You'll get a very different leader and role model from either of them once the nightmarish 24/7 job-interview pressure of the primaries is off.

Bullhorn in the rubble-why not? She didn't get this far and hang in this long by shirking the tough assignments.

P.S. Who kept her marriage and family together and herself sane during her personal crisis under the microscope? And not to mention the barrage of GOP attacks and investigations preceding and the impeachment following?

Just asking.