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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:51 PM Original message |
Why does Obama promise to cut corporate tax rates an additional 5% after Bush |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. We know where Hillary stands on important issues. but not where Obama stands. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. A hilarious reply in a thread about a specific policy proposal of Obama's. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I ws referring to the text of my post. --(? replay) |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes. For corporations that don't outsource, don't dodge taxes, don't offshore, |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. "...is the idea to hide the real Obama until after he locks up the nomination?" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I would think an Edwards supporter would applaud rewarding corporations that don't outsource or |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. PATRIOT corporations is a proposal for reward corps that don't outsource with tax breaks. |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. HRC people are looking for anything that they can find to try and attack Obama |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
6. To encourage employers to keep jobs in the US |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. How about removing the advantages, while at the same time |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Obama is in favor of closing those loopholes. I don't know where you're going with that. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. And giving breaks to other corps? why? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. To keep good, high-paying, health-care-providing jobs in America, under companies |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. And the only way to do that is to give them money? Fuck that. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. Er, yeah. Carrots or sticks, and we can't very well illegalize offshoring. |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
62. Over paying CEOs ? now that's another story. Don't believe |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. It's in the bill. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Yeah but, |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
61. Indeed, why reward ? Why not reduce tax breaks from |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
67. You can't raise $100 million in a year if you do that, though |
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dtotire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
56. Ditto |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
60. Dumb way to do it |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. His economic advisors are Chicago School... expect more of the same in this area if elected |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. But he sounds good as he fucks us!!!! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. If you had actually read this bill--or any articles about it--you'd realize how silly you look. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
65. Oh yes, let's lower Corporate Taxes! |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. Simple...He is a corporate whore. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I like how you obviously did no research whatsoever. These breaks are only for companies |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. The corporate tax is too low, across the board. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. In Obama's opinion, as well, they are not, and that is why he has proposed |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. And giving breaks to those he deems decent? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. To those that uphold progressive principles? Yes. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Taxing the people to provide give-aways to corps is progressive? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. No. Taxing bad corporations to provide bonuses to progressive corporations is. Look, |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. No, it's a house proposal that will go nowhere. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Don't worry. President Obama will sign it into law. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. It would have to pass congress, first, or will BHO "change" that? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. It will. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Just make him king, already. geez |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
15. Patriot Corporations? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I actually agree with the use of the term "patriot" here. A corporation |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Define "fair" wage. Define "abuse". |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Read "the bill." |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
57. lol that made me laugh |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
20. Here's a good article from The Nation on the VERY good bill: |
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ctaylors6 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
24. Here are the links to H.R. 3319 and senate version S. 1945 ... |
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ctaylors6 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Patriot Corporation has to meet following requirements for current & preceding tax years: |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Wow. How Orwellian. |
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ctaylors6 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. My first instinct is that I agree, Orwellian. Also, certification process seems like it'd be costly |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Okay. Now explain how it's Orwellian. |
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ctaylors6 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Sorry, was being sarcastic about orwellian. I do wonder about the certification process though |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
25. Well, I'm damn happy to see that the Corporations' |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Are you in favor of outsourcing jobs to India and China? If not, |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. The sponsors include Sherrod Brown, Dick Durbin, Jan Schakowsky, Lynn Woolsey: |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. What a pack of evil corporatists. (Nice to see Keith Ellison there, |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. Dick Durbin and Sherrod Brown |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. So it's a tax incentive (carrot) |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
26. This bill does not seem to have been introduced in the Senate |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. 90% production in the US, but only 50% R&D? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Maybe reflecting that in today's world, that would mean "re-inventing the wheeel in some cases. |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
45. The Missing Link is alive and well here, unfortunately |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Obama's chief economic advisor Austin Goolsbee is not credible = interesting |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. And where is your source that he is not credible -- an anonymous MySpace poster? |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. wrong - guess truth hurts - the Kudlow interview repeated a couple of times this weekend -and indeed |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Still waiting for your link |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Here is a source that says a similar thing about "just campaign promises" |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Which makes both these instances even more suspect |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
51. Durbin, Obama, & Brown and...Schakowsky Introduce Legislation to Reward "Patriot Employers" |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. The National Guard and Reserve part doesn't sound good. |
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