Obama admits distorting Clinton's positions in flyers

[BOSSHOG]

Or as he puts it, its the nature of the campaign. He's getting as obnoxious as his supporters here. I would suggest he stay inside his empty suit. Its worked for him so far. I'm still not impressed. Far from it.

[babylonsister]

1. I didn't hear him admit that. Do you have a link?

I'm sad you think he's an empty suit; maybe you need to read up on him, BOSS.

Here's an old article about him as a junior senator I found very interesting:

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/10/barack_obama.html

[BOSSHOG]

3. Oh

he might not be an empty suit but he's campaigning as an empty suit. My neighbors old cat has more substance then what he displays on the campaign trail. It was when he talked about someone (guess who?) was whining. If he gets the nomination, he'll be on his knees whining by September.

[babylonsister]

6. Like I said, it's too bad you don't like him. Luckily, many other

people have a much higher opinion of him than you do. Whatever, BOSS. I am also sorry you'll be so disappointed in our next president. I hope you can keep your mind open enough, and I do recommend that article.

[BOSSHOG]

9. Thanks

for the info. And I will wholeheartedly support and vote for him if he gets the nomination. I hope he or she don't give any of us reasons to be disappointed by their actions as president. When it comes to voting for someone for office I don't think "liking" them is relevant, and I'm too old to have to be inspired. Food for thought for you My Friend. Could it be my thoughts of the man are a result of me having an open mind?

[babylonsister]

14. I also like to think I have an open mind; our minds must be

opening in different directions.

To me, trust is a big issue, and I have never felt that with HRC. So that's where my open mind went after I realized Kucinich would never pull it off.

And I agree, liking someone isn't a requirement for electing someone, but it sure is nice for me to like this man after the hellish 8 years we've just endured/are enduring.

[catgirl]

16. Attacking his supporters is not having an "open mind"

It's attacking us simply because our candidate of choice is winning.
Trying to insult people like this is disappointing. Your title is a lie.

[elias7]

25. Having an open mind is not repeating the same "empty suit" meme

when it is clear the man has more substance than 99% of the people here on DU. This is a man who has a Kenyan father, an American mother, an Indonesian step-father (lived in Indonesia during part of his childhood), went to Columbia, Harvard Law (editor of the law review), written two books, excerpts of which clearly speak to a deeply thoughtful mind. Not to mention his public service adult life, as a community organizer, a university lecturer, a civil rights lawyer, then a state and US senator.

To repeat the "lack of substance" canard is absurd, when it is clear this man is oozing with substance. Disagree with his positions, dislike his speaking style, consider him inexperienced or lacking in national accomplishments, but please don't fall for the "substance" trap.

You only have to watch the debates to realize how off the mark this is...

[BOSSHOG]

28. I don't believe he is an

empty suit, but I know he is campaigning as one because it is working. Why should he change? I only have to watch the debates to realize that. And of course watching him on the stump.

[elias7]

31. I guess I don't understand how you see an "empty suit". Seems random.

Explain to me how he is campaigning as an empty suit. The stumps are general statements and inspire many. The debates and his websites go into detail. Similar to Clinton, similar to Edwards. As Edwards kept hammering the anti-corporate message and the "cause of his life", I could not find specifics in his speeches. I had to go to his website for specifics that were lacking in both his stump speeches and in the debates. Was he campaigning as an an empty suit also?

It just seems like the characterization is random, and it unfortunately has stuck. I just don't see it, however.

[Windy]

18. It is obvious that you have not read a single one of his policy positions.

You could never have that opinion if you did. Its fine to disagree on issue positions, but to say that he is an "empty suit" is an empty statement and is completely untrue.

[The Anti-Bush]

29. You want boring stats and figures... go to his website

The FACT is that when he started campaigning he was very specific and it wasn't catching on.

So, he put it all on his website, or ANYONE who "really" cares to go see. His speeches are meant to be inspirational.

If you can't see that, then maybe your screen name tells us something about who you really are.

[BOSSHOG]

41. I'm so happy we agree

The boring stuff didn't work so he broke out the empty suit. I don't think he is an empty suit, but he certainly campaigns as one, as you say. I care more then you know My Fellow Citizen. And my screen name is a reflection of my 24 years in the Navy so thanks for denigrating my shipmates, those alive and those no longer with us. You cultists need therapy and some training in social skills. I've asked others and have yet to get an answer. What is the origin of the chips on your shoulders?

[Perky]

39. where is the link?

[Dawgs]

2. What do you care? You're not voting for either of them.

BTW, you're wrong.

[BOSSHOG]

4. Because

I am an American Citizen. I have given to my country in the past and I am concerned about its future. Wrong about what? He said its the nature of the campaign. A smarmy answer from a smarmy person. Last week I did not know who I was voting for. I now know who I am not voting for.

[JimGinPA]

5. Define "destorting"

Whenever someone misspells a word I tend to wonder if they really know what it means.




:eyes:

[BOSSHOG]

7. Thanks

very much for the spellcheck. If you are an Obama supporter on DU you really don't care if he distorts things or not. Just keep that empty suit pressed.

[JohnnyLib2]

11. Heh! "Don't cross the BOSS," as I learned in the past.

I'm wondering, a lot, how Obama and his program will be seen if he stands alone in the spotlight, soon or in the GE. In so many ways, he benefits from HRC's unpopularity factor. Solo acts are a different breed of animal, so to speak.

[casus belli]

20. As unlikable as Hillary may be to some, surely McCain has her beat there. n/t

[JohnnyLib2]

22. For damn sure!

[Political Heretic]

12. Carp. If tahts true I am so SCREWN!! THIS IS HUGH!!!!!

:D

[casus belli]

8. Afraid not., He said he didn't consider them distortions of her record.

The quote you are referring to was made when he said that she has consistently made negative comments about him via different methods, and that he hasn't whined about it because he understands it happens in campaigns.

How exactly did you get he admitted to distorting her position from that?

[BOSSHOG]

10. So he lied about it too??

[casus belli]

19. We're done here. You're not even making sense. n/t

[BeyondGeography]

13. What a shit post

[BOSSHOG]

15. Thanks

you guys are wonderful. If you ain't singing praises for the man you ain't shit. Not too long ago I didn't think you all were a reflection of him but now I'm not sure.

[BeyondGeography]

17. You have revealed yourself as a total waste of time

Carry on.

[BOSSHOG]

23. And you wonder

why you all are referred to as a cult. Cmon call me names, throw things at me, pitch a fit. Reflect upon your candidate.

[The Anti-Bush]

30. You make a false statement in your OP,

try to piss off people and then try to call them out when they respond with anger.

It's called flame baiting, and it truly shows how desperate Hillary's campaign and her supporters are becoming.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[BOSSHOG]

32. Who's a Clinton supporter?

Not me. I've been a General Clark supporter since before the last election and will most likely write in his name when I vote next month. I will vote for whomever the dems nominate in the GD.

You cultists sure are cute with your little chips on your shoulders. I guess the truth does tend to piss some folks off. You apparently don't care if he distorts or not.

[bagimin]

33. Cultists???....Oh Honey!....

wait till I tell my wife of 38 years that we're in a cult.
Oh joy!

[totodeinhere]

27. The OP is entitled to that opinion.

I'm an Obama supporter and I disagree with the premise of the OP but there is no need to make a personal attack against him (or her.)

[TexasObserver]

21. No he didn't. Like Hillary, you're making things up. Please stop. We watched, you know.

[Mezzo]

43. Please point out where Hillary made anything up.

or STFU. That's a rude thing to say about a fellow democrat who has fought for you in the past.

[Mezzo]

44. Link? somp'm?

anything? You're making a pretty big statement here.

[ProSense]

24. Did you miss the part where she was busted for lying about her position on NAFTA? n/t

[Breeze54]

37. Why did Obama vote YEA on the Oman Free Trade Act?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7266610.stm">Migrants demand labour rights in Gulf

http://blog.aflcio.org/2006/06/28/emergency-alert-act-now-to-stop-oman-free-trade-agreement/">Emergency Alert: Act Now to Stop Oman Free Trade Agreement

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2924045

So who were the key sellouts that voted for this pact?

First and foremost, every Republican other than Burr, Dole, Coburn, Snowe, Collins, Chafee and Gregg.
The GOPer who is likely to get hit hardest for this at home is Sen. Mike DeWine (R-OH). He's running against
populist Congressman Sherrod Brown (D-OH), who has been one of the few courageous champions in Congress
fighting both parties' complicity in these kinds of sellout trade policies.

Sadly, there were also 10 Democrats who sold out and voted for this trade pact. They were Baucus,
Cantwell, Clinton, Kerry, Landrieu, Lieberman, Nelson (FL), Nelson (NE), OBAMA and Salazar.

:grr:

[ProSense]

42. What does that have to do with Obama being right that Hillary supported NAFTA? n/t

[Breeze54]

47. Hypocritical comes to mind.

Their voting records are almost mirror images.

[totodeinhere]

26. It is "the nature of the campaign."

Obama has it right. It's the primary season and in hard fought campaigns like this shit happens. If you check out Factcheck.org you will see that according to that web site both sides have stretched things from time to time. So I don't see how you can say that Obama's correct observation make him obnoxious.

[Cha]

34. Obama didn't admit it because

he didn't do it.

[Johnny__Motown]

35. No, he has stated over and over again that the mailers are accurate

and they ARE accurate.

Deal with it, he will be your next president so you might as well start getting used to it now.

[rodeodance]

46. You obviously have not read FactCheck.

[Orsino]

36. Pay close attention to a few elections....

...and you'll realize that politicians never admit to distortion. Your OP is itself a distortion.

[BOSSHOG]

38. So why did he?

I've been watching elections for more then 30 years. I agree it is rather surprising that he would admit to a distortion. Or as your triple speak indicates he did it but he won't admit to it because he didn't do it anyway so there. Wow, did you go to some kinda cult logic school to figure that out.

[Orsino]

40. He didn't.

Politicians never do.

[GalleryGod]

45. Read Skinner's Latest on Talk Like Yours...

You'll be in "TombStone Territory" so fast..it'll make your Boss-Arse red and chafed!:nopity: :spank: