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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:15 PM
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$$$$$$$$$$Official MSNBC debate thread #7$$$$$$$$$$
I think we should talk about the economy.
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  - Hillary made Obama look like a kid she had to come save!  Neshanic   Feb-26-08 09:17 PM   #1 
  - I respect your opinion very much.  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-26-08 09:17 PM   #2 
  - Huh? She was trying to sandbag him and failed  Armstead   Feb-26-08 09:18 PM   #3 
  - You are correct, sir. nt  crispini   Feb-26-08 09:19 PM   # 
  - Exactly. And he got applause for his reply.  AlinPA   Feb-26-08 09:19 PM   # 
  - And she almost got booed...AGAIN. nt  Kahuna   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #33 
  - she was awesome! she made him change his stance flipped right there!  Evergreen Emerald   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #35 
     - He made her look like a fool  alteredstate   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #71 
     - The difference between denounce and reject?  tammywammy   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #84 
     - he flipped from "denounce" to "reject"  orangepeel68   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #99 
  - No way...he slapped her down on that even when she tried to slip in back door  NDambi   Feb-26-08 09:19 PM   #7 
  - Nope. Hillary tried to paint him as pro-antisemitism, and it looked silly.  Occam Bandage   Feb-26-08 09:20 PM   # 
  - Then he totally pwned her in response!  tammywammy   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   # 
  - She wasn't trying to save him! She was saying I kissed up thoroughly and HE didn't.  Kahuna   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   #25 
  - No, she wasn't trying to save him, and because it was followed up on  still_one   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   # 
  - oooh, fancy thread!  FLDem5   Feb-26-08 09:18 PM   #4 
  - Do Russert and Obama have on matching ties?  citizen_jane   Feb-26-08 09:19 PM   #5 
  - lol - looks like it!  genevat   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   # 
  - Obama has looked like calm, cool, presidential material all night. Hillary.......not so much.  cyberpj   Feb-26-08 09:19 PM   #6 
  - After Hillary interceded and saved him from bad Timmeh.  Neshanic   Feb-26-08 09:20 PM   #10 
  - No she didn't  tammywammy   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   #26 
  - He=a cool, clear JFK She=Tricky Dick, I'm surprised shes not sweating  Royal Oak Rog   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #31 
     - It's over man, she never came close to scoring tonight!  Royal Oak Rog   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #69 
  - OH NOES! NOT TEH EVEL TED KENNEDY!!  bullwinkle428   Feb-26-08 09:19 PM   #8 
  - Don't run away from the word "liberal" Obama. That;s schmucky.  Armstead   Feb-26-08 09:19 PM   #9 
  - Yeah. He should say Liberal is good. nt  Kahuna   Feb-26-08 09:20 PM   #13 
  - Oh you're being a chickenshit now.  Armstead   Feb-26-08 09:20 PM   #15 
     - did you just call yourself a chickenshit?  hnmnf   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   # 
  - Don't go over the points; just DENOUNCE the fucking ratings.  BuyingThyme   Feb-26-08 09:20 PM   #11 
  - Two differences in votes: Immigration and Ethics Investigations Committee. HRC opposed committee.  blonndee   Feb-26-08 09:20 PM   #12 
  - Damn these threads hop!  bluestateguy   Feb-26-08 09:20 PM   #14 
  - I am glad he is discussing the bogus 'liberal rating' system by a conservative entity.  FLDem5   Feb-26-08 09:20 PM   #16 
  - IMO Clinton's approach in this "debate" has back fired  sabra   Feb-26-08 09:20 PM   #17 
  - the format sucks for both of them.  halobeam   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   #23 
  - Yep! Same old pattern. n/t  ORDem   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   #27 
  - DU is getting slow. Time to kick the freeloaders...  Bleachers7   Feb-26-08 09:20 PM   #18 
  - It is going slow tonight  NDambi   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   #21 
  - yeah, it keeps crashing!  genevat   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   # 
  - Penn better hurry up and find that kitchen sink. Hillary isn't exactly scoring any big hits tonight  Exilednight   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   # 
  - Oh here comes Ms. Obama to explain "libral".  Neshanic   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   #19 
  - Well, he's neatly wiggling out of the box, saying the old categories don't work anymore. nt  crispini   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   # 
  - He's quite good at that. He will have a big show this fall.  Neshanic   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #34 
  - Hillary's map has no high roads.  BuyingThyme   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   #20 
  - Careful there  Generic Brad   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #120 
  - Barack is absolutely burying her.  thevoiceofreason   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   #22 
  - :goodposting:  jeffrey_X   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   # 
  - Thanks for listing all those liberal positions, Obama.  Heaven and Earth   Feb-26-08 09:21 PM   #24 
  - Russia up now!  yasmina27   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #28 
  - So much for St. Ronnie's  yasmina27   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #49 
     - OMG!  yasmina27   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   # 
  - Who actually IS Putin's successor? I have no idea. nt  crispini   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #29 
  - No one  Bleachers7   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   # 
  - The google says "Putin protege Medvedev"  crispini   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #55 
  - Dmitri Medvedev  blue horseshoe   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #46 
  - Putin, he just found a puppet to occupy the seat.  Exilednight   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #47 
  - Did she really just say that about her IWR?  Exilednight   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   #95 
  - Fartin'  Lint Head   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #50 
  - Clinton is good with the Putin question. nt  KC2   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #30 
  - Yes she is so far  Madam Mossfern   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #40 
     - Ooops...she couldn't say the name!  KC2   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #51 
  - Thanks to these threads, I've been able to (somewhat) keep up. Thanks to everyone who's hosted one!  apocalypsehow   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #32 
  - I second the motion!  IndianaGreen   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #45 
  - It is actually a pretty even contest in my view. I might give her a few extra points in the debate  still_one   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #53 
  - Notice he worked in the poll results in the GE against McCain earlier?! lol  crispini   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #36 
  - Putin's successor - qood, tough question. Bush wouldn't know the answer.  gateley   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #37 
  - Nopety, bush wants that job, he's the great uniterer ya know  chknltl   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   # 
  - IOW she really doesn't have a clue what's going on in Russia n/t  ORDem   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #38 
  - Her answer is TOTALLY Substanceless! My dog could give this answer. n/t  ORDem   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #54 
  - wow, a question about Russia, I've only been waiting 19 debates for this  Magic Rat   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #39 
  - Wow some of yall must be watching a different debate.  catagory5   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #65 
  - Those pesky Russians.  Ikonoklast   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #41 
  - Hillary on Putin and Forgin Affairs  keep_it_real   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   # 
  - she doesn't even know his name  blue horseshoe   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   # 
  - Obama had 1 slip up all night, I didn't like his response about hil's exp when 1st lady  RunningFromCongress   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   # 
  - Is it my imagination or does Obama's ears get bigger every time he lies? n/t  itsrobert   Feb-26-08 09:22 PM   #42 
  - That's definitely your imagination. Or the 'shrooms.  Heaven and Earth   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #52 
  - Well, I need to cut down before Obama starts flapping his ears and begins to fly  itsrobert   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   #91 
  - I'm betting on your wild imagination. n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   # 
  - Does Hillary's Jaws get bigger when she lies?  keep_it_real   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #75 
  - the damn debate is almost over and they have disucssed NOTHING new.  FLDem5   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #43 
  - WIll they bring up Hillary saying "Putin has no soul"? (paraphrased)  Johnny__Motown   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #44 
  - deletd double post  Johnny__Motown   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #48 
  - "medduh---medduh...mu...medvu...dwhatever." Shades of Bush.  Occam Bandage   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #56 
  - How dare you.  BuyingThyme   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #64 
  - She's ready on Day 1, if you give her a cribsheet for foreign leaders.  Occam Bandage   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #74 
  - I'm waiting for Obama to pronounce it.... :^)  ORDem   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #67 
  - Demenevev...what ever  RL3AO   Feb-26-08 09:23 PM   #57 
  - The way she said "Whatever" may not sit well with some.  oviedodem   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #70 
  - Hill isn't winning any Texas votes here  bagimin   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #58 
  - Shorter Obama: "What she said"  OzarkDem   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #59 
  - It will be a pink princess phone....the H line!  Neshanic   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   #89 
     - I don't think she'll answer  OzarkDem   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #107 
  - I'll go ahead and start the next one too.  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #60 
  - Hillary doesn't know the name of the future Russian leader?  Katzenkavalier   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #61 
  - Ready on day one, huh? nt  LBJDemocrat   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #66 
  - lmao..and right on day one..lol  NDambi   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #78 
  - You Betcha. Ready for WHAT though? n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   # 
  - Self Delete. Dupe.  cherokeeprogressive   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   # 
  - Oh, please! Barack "What she said" Obama just regurgitated Hillary's response. I wish he had  MetricSystem   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   # 
  - She sort of did... I didn't hear Obama correcting her either. nt  KC2   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #77 
  - Sort of did?!! Is that like being "sort of" pregnant?  cherokeeprogressive   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #108 
  - That was such a George W. Bush moment!  AZBlue   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #88 
  - THese candidates hate russia!!!!111!!! I am voting for NADER!  JVS   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #62 
  - In Soviet Union, Nader votes you!  Starbucks Anarchist   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #73 
  - Iran's nuclear ambitions  Warren Stupidity   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #63 
  - AGAIN.... BO.... " uh... what she said ..."....soft balls .....  SayitAintSo   Feb-26-08 09:24 PM   #68 
  - he pointed out how bush just left diplomacy to rot-  Bluerthanblue   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #83 
  - Once again Hillary refuses to say she made a mistake on the vote.  oviedodem   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   # 
  - O's not up on Putin's successor, I don't think....  gateley   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #72 
  - Neither do I actually.  hnmnf   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #79 
  - Obama was smart to not say UN.  Bleachers7   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #76 
  - Putin question - Obama keeps trying to bring the issue back to Bush  housewolf   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #80 
  - NO BARACK! The ReThuglicans are voting you because they know you are easier to beat in the General.  Up2Late   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #81 
  - ROUND 6 (JUDIASM): Point to Hillary  rocknation   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #82 
  - He didn't stand a chance on that. nt  Kahuna   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #100 
  - Russer is really hot on invading and fighting everyone  Warren Stupidity   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #85 
  - Obama thinks Bill did a good job in Kosovo  OzarkDem   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #86 
  - Illinois State Senate I believe.  gmudem   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #109 
  - OK, I'm convinced, neither of them know what to do about Russia. n/t  ORDem   Feb-26-08 09:25 PM   #87 
  - Sincere vote, just misinformed. Didn't bother to do the WORK that a  ORDem   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #103 
  - OK she's back to HS presidential campaigning again....  ORDem   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   # 
  - I was shocked Hillary couldn't pronounce his name. They both had no idea Russia would come up. Nice  RunningFromCongress   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #118 
  - Wow, this debate seemed short! It went quickly! nt  crispini   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   #90 
  - Does anybody else miss John Edwards? nt  KC2   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   #92 
  - Yes  OzarkDem   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   # 
  - I think Hilary does  blue horseshoe   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #112 
  - This "debate" has basically sucked....  skooooo   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   #93 
  - Same oh Same oh..I never expect anything different..but they are fun to watch  NDambi   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #119 
  - slight mea culpa on IWR  JVS   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   # 
  - Ah, she regrets the IWR vote. Yes, indeed. nt  crispini   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   #94 
  - still can't say the word "wrong"  Johnny__Motown   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #102 
  - Has HRC ever said this before? I don't recall it.  WinkyDink   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #105 
     - Not quite like this, at least that I've heard. nt  crispini   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #113 
  - IWR is up to the plate -- Hillary blowing it off without admitting error.  Yael   Feb-26-08 09:26 PM   #96 
  - She SHOULD be ruing the Kyl/Lieberman vote. nt  gateley   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #97 
  - Nothing on jobs, nothing on the economy, nothing on rising prices  housewolf   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #98 
  - You're right. Spent too much damn time on nonsense instead of the economy.  Connie_Corleone   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #124 
  - Oooh, she regrets her war vote!  rocknation   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #101 
  - And has said it many times! WTH?!  WinkyDink   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #114 
  - Only after everyone else said so dozens of times. nt  KC2   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #123 
  - Forget the past!  yasmina27   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #104 
  - NO BARACK! The ReThuglicans are voting you because they know you are easier to beat in the General.  Up2Late   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #106 
  - Hillary shows more depth on foreign policy  creeksneakers2   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   # 
  - IWR - She said many times?  blogslut   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #110 
  - "This election has to be about the future."  BuyingThyme   Feb-26-08 09:27 PM   #111 
  - Clinton almost admitted the IWR vote was a mistake.  Warren Stupidity   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #115 
  - Hillary wants her IWR vote back (closest thing to an apoloogy yet)  Yael   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #116 
  - There are no do-overs as President  heraldsqure   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #117 
  - BINGO!  Yael   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #125 
  - New thread here  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #121 
  - Obama "uh let me think...I am perfect, so this will take a while."  Neshanic   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #122 
  - please continue in thread 8 here  proud patriot   Feb-26-08 09:28 PM   #126 
 
Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:17 PM
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1. Hillary made Obama look like a kid she had to come save!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:17 PM
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2. I respect your opinion very much.
You're a very objective person.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:18 PM
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3. Huh? She was trying to sandbag him and failed
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:19 PM
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You are correct, sir. nt
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:19 PM
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Exactly. And he got applause for his reply.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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33. And she almost got booed...AGAIN. nt
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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35. she was awesome! she made him change his stance flipped right there!
Nice fold under pressure
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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71. He made her look like a fool
and he looked good doing it.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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84. The difference between denounce and reject?
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM by tammywammy
That's exactly what Hillary should run on till Tuesday. She should keeping pointing it out as much as possible.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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99. he flipped from "denounce" to "reject"
:rofl:

He made her look silly. (Besides, denounce is much stronger than reject)

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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:19 PM
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7. No way...he slapped her down on that even when she tried to slip in back door
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:20 PM
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Nope. Hillary tried to paint him as pro-antisemitism, and it looked silly.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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Then he totally pwned her in response!
She looked like a fool jumping in on that question.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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25. She wasn't trying to save him! She was saying I kissed up thoroughly and HE didn't.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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No, she wasn't trying to save him, and because it was followed up on
it was clarified

I believe it probably gave her a few points though, but not significant



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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:18 PM
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4. oooh, fancy thread!
thanks for the invite.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:19 PM
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5. Do Russert and Obama have on matching ties?
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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lol - looks like it!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:19 PM
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6. Obama has looked like calm, cool, presidential material all night. Hillary.......not so much.
He got my vote tonight.



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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:20 PM
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10. After Hillary interceded and saved him from bad Timmeh.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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26. No she didn't
Seriously, I think you might be the only person on here that possibly saw it that way.
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Royal Oak Rog Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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31. He=a cool, clear JFK She=Tricky Dick, I'm surprised shes not sweating
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Royal Oak Rog Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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69. It's over man, she never came close to scoring tonight!
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:19 PM
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8. OH NOES! NOT TEH EVEL TED KENNEDY!!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:19 PM
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9. Don't run away from the word "liberal" Obama. That;s schmucky.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:20 PM
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13. Yeah. He should say Liberal is good. nt
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:20 PM
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15. Oh you're being a chickenshit now.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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did you just call yourself a chickenshit?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:20 PM
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11. Don't go over the points; just DENOUNCE the fucking ratings.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:20 PM
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12. Two differences in votes: Immigration and Ethics Investigations Committee. HRC opposed committee.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:20 PM
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14. Damn these threads hop!
nt
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:20 PM
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16. I am glad he is discussing the bogus 'liberal rating' system by a conservative entity.
very nice work on his part. That makes him more liberal than Russ Feingold and Bernie Sanders - no way that is true.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:20 PM
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17. IMO Clinton's approach in this "debate" has back fired
:shrug:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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23. the format sucks for both of them.
It's MSNBC and I'm sticking to it.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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27. Yep! Same old pattern. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:20 PM
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18. DU is getting slow. Time to kick the freeloaders...
:evilgrin:
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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21. It is going slow tonight
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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yeah, it keeps crashing!
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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Penn better hurry up and find that kitchen sink. Hillary isn't exactly scoring any big hits tonight
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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19. Oh here comes Ms. Obama to explain "libral".
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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Well, he's neatly wiggling out of the box, saying the old categories don't work anymore. nt
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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34. He's quite good at that. He will have a big show this fall.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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20. Hillary's map has no high roads.
I really detest this woman now.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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120. Careful there
You used detest and woman in the same sentence. You will now be branded a misogynist. :tinfoilhat:
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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22. Barack is absolutely burying her.
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jeffrey_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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:goodposting:
He is owning her tonight.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:21 PM
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24. Thanks for listing all those liberal positions, Obama.
You really should call them what they are.
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yasmina27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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28. Russia up now!
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yasmina27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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49. So much for St. Ronnie's
end of the cold war!

I thought GEB saw his soul?
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yasmina27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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OMG!
Now I'm channeling Barack! :)
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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29. Who actually IS Putin's successor? I have no idea. nt
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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No one
Jokes on them. :shrug:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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55. The google says "Putin protege Medvedev"
and Russert was trying to trip her up and failed, LOL.
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blue horseshoe Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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46. Dmitri Medvedev
Puppet
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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47. Putin, he just found a puppet to occupy the seat.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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95. Did she really just say that about her IWR?
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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50. Fartin'
Then comes Excretin'. :dem:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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30. Clinton is good with the Putin question. nt
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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40. Yes she is so far
good
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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51. Ooops...she couldn't say the name!
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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32. Thanks to these threads, I've been able to (somewhat) keep up. Thanks to everyone who's hosted one!
:thumbsup:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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45. I second the motion!
I don't have the stomach to watch the debate, plus Jericho is on now on CBS.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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53. It is actually a pretty even contest in my view. I might give her a few extra points in the debate
but I don't think that will change the voters

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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36. Notice he worked in the poll results in the GE against McCain earlier?! lol
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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37. Putin's successor - qood, tough question. Bush wouldn't know the answer.
Let's see how HRC and Obama do.... :popcorn:
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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Nopety, bush wants that job, he's the great uniterer ya know
Priemier bush da!
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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38. IOW she really doesn't have a clue what's going on in Russia n/t
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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54. Her answer is TOTALLY Substanceless! My dog could give this answer. n/t
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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39. wow, a question about Russia, I've only been waiting 19 debates for this
glad they squeaked it in there after the Farakhan question.
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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65. Wow some of yall must be watching a different debate.
From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
That was a solid body blow by Clinton on Obama not holding a single hearin gon Afghanistan despite that he talks about it being the front line on terrorism and that he chairs the subcommittee on Europe, which oversees NATO. While Obama's explanation may be realistic -- that he became chair at the beginning of his campaign -- doesn't it reinforce Hillary and Bill Clinton's points that he is inexperienced, that he has only been in the Senate for a limited time and hasn't cut his teeth yet. Doesn't that play right into the inexperience narrative quite well?


AND:

From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
Obama's body language during Clinton's statements on Iraq seemed to indicate real frustration -- something we haven't seen much from him.

reading all the sheep comments here you would think Obama was winning
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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41. Those pesky Russians.
Like we have perfect elections.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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Hillary on Putin and Forgin Affairs
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blue horseshoe Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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she doesn't even know his name
Bush had trouble leading up to the first time we didn't vote for him
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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Obama had 1 slip up all night, I didn't like his response about hil's exp when 1st lady
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:22 PM
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42. Is it my imagination or does Obama's ears get bigger every time he lies? n/t
n/t
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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52. That's definitely your imagination. Or the 'shrooms.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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91. Well, I need to cut down before Obama starts flapping his ears and begins to fly
n/t
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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I'm betting on your wild imagination. n/t
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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75. Does Hillary's Jaws get bigger when she lies?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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43. the damn debate is almost over and they have disucssed NOTHING new.
WTF?

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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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44. WIll they bring up Hillary saying "Putin has no soul"? (paraphrased)
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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48. deletd double post
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM by Johnny__Motown
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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56. "medduh---medduh...mu...medvu...dwhatever." Shades of Bush.
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM by Occam Bandage
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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64. How dare you.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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74. She's ready on Day 1, if you give her a cribsheet for foreign leaders.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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67. I'm waiting for Obama to pronounce it.... :^)
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:23 PM
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57. Demenevev...what ever
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM by RL3AO
:)

BTW, it is Dmitry Medvedev
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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70. The way she said "Whatever" may not sit well with some.
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bagimin Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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58. Hill isn't winning any Texas votes here
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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59. Shorter Obama: "What she said"
Does he plan to call her for help if he gets elected?
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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89. It will be a pink princess phone....the H line!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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107. I don't think she'll answer
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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60. I'll go ahead and start the next one too.
I haven't reached my limit.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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61. Hillary doesn't know the name of the future Russian leader?
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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66. Ready on day one, huh? nt
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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78. lmao..and right on day one..lol
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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You Betcha. Ready for WHAT though? n/t
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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Self Delete. Dupe.
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM by cherokeeprogressive
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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Oh, please! Barack "What she said" Obama just regurgitated Hillary's response. I wish he had
answered first.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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77. She sort of did... I didn't hear Obama correcting her either. nt
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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108. Sort of did?!! Is that like being "sort of" pregnant?
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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88. That was such a George W. Bush moment!
Dear God!!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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62. THese candidates hate russia!!!!111!!! I am voting for NADER!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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73. In Soviet Union, Nader votes you!
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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63. Iran's nuclear ambitions
At least the neocon war mongering Clinton can pronounce nuclear right.

Russert just insulted Obama: "Senator Obama, you know anything about him", with a sneer.
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:24 PM
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68. AGAIN.... BO.... " uh... what she said ..."....soft balls .....
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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83. he pointed out how bush just left diplomacy to rot-
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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Once again Hillary refuses to say she made a mistake on the vote.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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72. O's not up on Putin's successor, I don't think....
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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79. Neither do I actually.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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76. Obama was smart to not say UN.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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80. Putin question - Obama keeps trying to bring the issue back to Bush
and draw distinctions to Bush & the Repubs, rather than to Hillary

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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81. NO BARACK! The ReThuglicans are voting you because they know you are easier to beat in the General.
They are stetting us all up for the fall.
There, I said it! Prove me wrong all you Obama Fanatics.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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82. ROUND 6 (JUDIASM): Point to Hillary
Nailed him by saying she outright rejected an anti-semite's remarks while obama said he wouldn't censor him. Weak.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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100. He didn't stand a chance on that. nt
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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85. Russer is really hot on invading and fighting everyone
He is very manly with other people's lives.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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86. Obama thinks Bill did a good job in Kosovo
Was he still in college back then?
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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109. Illinois State Senate I believe.
Either that or teaching Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago. Nice try though.

Nevermind, it was a pretty lame attempt at snark.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:25 PM
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87. OK, I'm convinced, neither of them know what to do about Russia. n/t
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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103. Sincere vote, just misinformed. Didn't bother to do the WORK that a
jr. high school student could have done to vote against the war.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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OK she's back to HS presidential campaigning again....
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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118. I was shocked Hillary couldn't pronounce his name. They both had no idea Russia would come up. Nice
curve ball from Russert. This really could have been Hillary's chance to show Obama didn't know enough about the world and she wasn't prepared. She'll be kicking herself for that in 10 minutes.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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90. Wow, this debate seemed short! It went quickly! nt
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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92. Does anybody else miss John Edwards? nt
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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Yes
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blue horseshoe Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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112. I think Hilary does
Who is she going to steal lines from?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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93. This "debate" has basically sucked....

...largely thanks to Timmeh.

That idiot needs to be smacked down. I think we ought to write and ocmplain to MSNBC.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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119. Same oh Same oh..I never expect anything different..but they are fun to watch
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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slight mea culpa on IWR
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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94. Ah, she regrets the IWR vote. Yes, indeed. nt
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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102. still can't say the word "wrong"
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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105. Has HRC ever said this before? I don't recall it.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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113. Not quite like this, at least that I've heard. nt
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:26 PM
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96. IWR is up to the plate -- Hillary blowing it off without admitting error.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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97. She SHOULD be ruing the Kyl/Lieberman vote. nt
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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98. Nothing on jobs, nothing on the economy, nothing on rising prices
nothing on global warming, nothing on foreclosures

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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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124. You're right. Spent too much damn time on nonsense instead of the economy.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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101. Oooh, she regrets her war vote!
That's news to me!

:rofl:
rocknation
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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114. And has said it many times! WTH?!
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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123. Only after everyone else said so dozens of times. nt
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yasmina27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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104. Forget the past!
we never should have gone in!

Blech!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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106. NO BARACK! The ReThuglicans are voting you because they know you are easier to beat in the General.
They are stetting us all up for the fall.

There, I said it! Prove me wrong all you Obama Fanatics.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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Hillary shows more depth on foreign policy
Obama sticks with basic observations and agreement with Hillary.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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110. IWR - She said many times?
She would not have voted that way? Since when? I never heard her say that until tonight!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:27 PM
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111. "This election has to be about the future."
That's the line that put her over the top.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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115. Clinton almost admitted the IWR vote was a mistake.
She got very close. But all of that is water under the bridge.

The retreat from democracy in latin america? Neoliberal democracy has nothing to do with free and fair elections. Clinton is a neoliberal democrat.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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116. Hillary wants her IWR vote back (closest thing to an apoloogy yet)
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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117. There are no do-overs as President
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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125. BINGO!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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121. New thread here
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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122. Obama "uh let me think...I am perfect, so this will take a while."
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:28 PM
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126. please continue in thread 8 here
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