Whose health care plan do you prefer?

[ButterflyBlood]

Poll question: Whose health care plan do you prefer?

Obama's. Here's a fact: I don't have health insurance. I don't care. I don't think it's worth the cost. I'd be SO fucking pissed if I was forced to buy it.

[LeftCoast]

1. Would you be as pissed if the gov't made it possible for you to buy it?

For example a voucher or something?

[ButterflyBlood]

3. No.

But Hillary's plan relies on "tax credits" which wouldn't do crap for me because I'm getting almost all my federal taxes returned currently. That'll probably change soon (recent college grad), but I'm sure at that point I'd cease to qualify.

[LeftCoast]

18. For universal coverage there would need to be more than tax credits

This might be covered by an expansion of Medicaid or Medicare if not vouchers. Clearly just saying "you must buy health insurance" without giving people a way to get it is ridiculous and doesn't solve the problem.

I'm kind of playing Devil's Advocate here. I hope you don't mind. I just seem to have a very different perspective on the entire healthcare debate than just about anyone I've been reading here.

[lligrd]

2. I Don't Like Either But The Insurance Companies Prefer

Hillarys. Single payer is the only fair plan. Mandating that I support an insurance company is just wrong!

[ButterflyBlood]

5. Exactly. If you're going to force people to pay, why the middleman?

Why not just cut that out and have the payment go in taxes directly to the health care plan?

[AtomicKitten]

4. I prefer Kucinich's plan.

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. Me too

So I didn't vote on this

[madrchsod]

13. best plan ever--even buys off the insurance companies

[graywarrior]

7. Neither of them works for me right now.

[Flabbergasted]

8. Obama: Mandates are fine but not at this point and not from Hillary.

[calmblueocean]

12. Don't forget, Obama mandates health insurance if you have kids.

I prefer Obama's plan, but he doesn't get called to support this enough.

[Flabbergasted]

Right but this is far and away more comforting for parents than covering the whole family.

[RestoreGore]

9. Then don't go to the hospital if you get sick and expect us to pay for it out of our pockets

[BeatleBoot]

11. Thank you!

[RestoreGore]

19. Just tired of the bs here

People don't realize that life holds no guarantees and you can get catastrophically ill without planning on it. So if you are one like the OP here who doesn't think paying for healthcare is worth it and you God forbid get sick, why should those in it pay for YOU and help you raise the cost of it for everyone else? And although I am not supporting either of them wholeheartedly, I do think Clinton actually wants to get everyone in the system to lower costs. Personally, I prefer universal single payer healthcare, and if everyone is IN the system to begin with it would hopefully make that transition easier and quicker.

[madrchsod]

10. neither

so i really do`t care which plan is the best

[Tatiana]

14. NEITHER.

Waiting for Congress to pass a sensible single-payer bill.

[FrenchieCat]

15. I don't need to be "forced" to pay corporations ............

for my health care. That ain't even cool!

Although I do believe in mandating it for children, cause they don't have a choice in the matter.

[Raine]

16. I don't want to be forced

I also don't think it's worth the cost.

[sandnsea]

17. How much would you be willing to pay...

if you got your annual check-ups covered, and at least 80% of any bill paid, cancer, accidents, anything. $10? $25? $50? Everybody has a number.

[ButterflyBlood]

20. I don't do annual checkups

Last time I went in was for a possible STD, testing and drugs and all that cost around $200, most of it covered by my family's plan I was covered under then, but if I didn't have that it would still be cheaper to just directly pay the costs rather than take out an insurance plan consider the rate I would've used it.

[sandnsea]

25. I asked your price

Everybody has one. There has to be some amount of money you'd be willing to pay for the comfort to know you'd never have to worry about medical care.

And you need to get your annual PAP's, especially since you've worried about an STD in the past, regardless of this thread. That's just playing russian roulette with your life.

[ButterflyBlood]

27. I'm not a female, I don't need paps.

The price? I suppose $20 a month maybe.

[sandnsea]

28. Then an annual HIV

And if you'd pay $20 as a college student, then I gather you'd pay more with a median income salary of $30,000 or so, correct? If subsidies brought it into that range, wouldn't you buy it? In Oregon, individuals with incomes of around $15,000 pay as little as $10 a month for health insurance subsidy. If you're young and healthy and the normal premium would be around $200, low income adults can qualify for up to a 95% subsidy, leaving just 5% of the regular premium. Wouldn't you participate in something like that?

[Cha]

21. I've never had health insurance..

or a medical doctor..I've been my own best health adviser. I know that's unique but I would never buy "health insurance" ..just one more thing hilary doesn't have a clue on, imo.

[hmiyasato]

22. Hillary is right on healthcare

Healthcare reform needs to be mandatory to cover all citizens. Just ask those who deal daily with people who struggle to make ends meet. I am a teacher in an inner city school in Hawaii that has a 76% student population that receives free and reduced lunch. Often these families cannot even afford school registration fees. How then would affordable insurance be any kind of answer? Seriously, would individuals buy insurance, however affordable, over immediate daily needs? Of course not. Food, shelter, and clothing would be paid first. Essentially, “mandatory” healthcare is not an infringement of our rights, but the most viable path to healthcare for all Americans. Ask those who actually know individuals who struggle with our cost of living.

[Swamp Rat]

23. Dennis Kucinich's healthcare plan!!

Oh well, the Keebler Elf has been once again marginalised by the invisible corporate hand.

[Occam Bandage]

24. Then if you get sick or injured, don't go to the hospital. Just lie in bed and die,

without making us pay for you.

[paulk]

26. the new face of progressivism!

looks an awful lot like conservatism to me.

I me mine!