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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:06 PM
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We love U ElsewheresDaughter - We love U BlackVelvet04 - We love U Jesus_of_suburbia
Whatever happens in this race - we love you and respect your ardent support of Senator Clinton!

We may not always disgree (umm... understatement) - but let me apologize for MYSELF first, and any other Obama supporters who have
gotten carried away. Some people really hate things that Obama has done, and others same for Clinton - but regardless
we appreciate the debate, and will come together to defeat McCain regardless of who wins. We know that your
support for Clinton is based on your firm belief that she is the better leader, and your own love of this
country.

We ALL hold deep opinions on this site - but we respect ALL supporters of Senator Clinton!
And we love your pride, and your thoughtful and strong participation in every thread.

I single out ElsewheresDaughter and BlackVelvet04 and Jesus_of_suburbia only because i know they are strong and vocal
supporters of Clinton - but there are many many more...

the same message goes to all Clinton supporters on DU, and everywhere else:

We love you and we see ourselves in your passion filled eyes.
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:11 PM
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1. hmmm... will be a sad testament to DU if this drops like a rock
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 06:12 PM by sloppyjoe25s
i was hoping there WAS a shred of goodwill left on GDP.

C'mon fellow Obama supporters - show some love and graciousness!
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:20 PM
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7. Don't drop, don't drop!
So we disagree, so what? We will rally together eventually, and we'll be prepared for the GE.

This shit is so long overdue.

:)

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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:16 PM
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2. I think you did a nice post to them all.
as an aside there was a good reason the old folks used to say "never discuss, politics or religion in polite company".

You end up hurting and fighting with good friends and decent people if you aren't in agreement.

Again, nice post!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:16 PM
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3. Thanks....
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 06:17 PM by BlackVelvet04
that's extremely nice of you.

I don't hate Obama and I don't hate Obama supporters...some of them are very nice. I am, however, extremely concerned for my country. Some of the young people feel us old folks should just step aside...I'm not that old, yet. And while they are talking about their future they are also talking about the hard work of my past and the hard work of the other older voters. We have everything we've built at stake. I don't have the time the young have to build to have to rebuild.


One of the first speeches I heard of Obama's I called my dad and told him that he sounded like a cross between MLK and JFK....but I couldn't find the substance I wanted and I don't have the conviction that he is up to the task of running this country in such a desperate time. I would have been happy to support him in 8 years. This is really not just about having the candidate I'm supporting win, it's about protecting the gains of the past and striving for more. I've fought long and hard for women's rights and Hillary best supports those issues that I otherwise see slowly being eroded away. I'm sorry that it comes across as Obama hating because it's not.

Really I'm not usually this cranky. ;-)

I'm truly touched by and appreciate your thoughtful post.



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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:19 PM
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5. "When we see ourselves in our brothers eyes - we will have healed the moral deficit of this nation"
Is probably one of my favorite of the things Obama has said - it was in his MLK speech.

I would warrant that it is just as true - and perhaps more poetic to say:

"When we see ourselves in our SISTERS eyes, we will have healed the moral deficit of this nation."

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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:34 PM
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17. Thank you for that.
I've finally gotten my dad and brother to understand how disheartening it is to be told that you are "less than" just because you are born without a penis.

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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:51 PM
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20. Gracias a ti!
my mother educated my brother and me on that as well...
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Lebam in LA Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:18 PM
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4. K&R
Whoever our candidate is, in the end we all have to come together to beat McCain. I would love it if Hillary wins but Obama will get my vote if he is the nominee. Hope after all the primaries are over this place calms down a little (actually, a lot). I wasn't around here in 2004 so not sure if all this is normal or not. Thanks SloppyJoe!
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:20 PM
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6. K & R!
That is my sentiment exactly. Thanks for posting this sloppyjoe25s!
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:21 PM
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8. K & R
With a hearty concurrence
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:22 PM
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9. Glad to have been the 5th!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:26 PM
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14. You are a tireless supporter of Hillary, robbedvoter and I'm
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 06:36 PM by BlackVelvet04
honored to be in the same fight with you.

Oh, YOU get a STAR!

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:22 PM
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25. Thanks!
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:22 PM
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10. No set of supporters has purity. There are good Obama and good Clinton supporters
and bad ones. No one group has caused all the disharmony on this board.
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:45 PM
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36. i think you are right
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:23 PM
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11. Much Love To Them! And You! And Anyone Else Who Still Knows How To Think!
:toast:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:02 PM
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33. you said it well.
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:52 PM
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38. gracias!
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:24 PM
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12. Nicely put.
Thank you!
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:24 PM
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13. One aside point: We may not be coming together to defeat McCain.
It may well be someone else.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:27 PM
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15. You're trying to make us cry? lol.
very nice sentiment. Thank you.
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:33 PM
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16. no attempt to be overly mushy
just that I really see the passion in Senator Clintons supporters as well.

I had lunch today with my 73 year old Mom & we both discussed why we think a woman will win the presidency
quite soon. Maybe Senator Clinton - maybe someone else.

Obama could lose in November. I support him whole-heartedly, but there, I said it. Anything is possible.

In any case I was just really seeing the same passion i feel for Obama in the posts of these 3 (and many others as I said)
in support of Clinton.

That passion is a good thing - no matter how you slice or dice it!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:35 PM
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18. very thoughtful
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:43 PM
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19. K&R.....
I hope rodeodance and many of the others get to see this post before it sinks.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:04 PM
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21. I will k&r for all the Edwards supporters who took a lot of abuse from both camps
I voted for Edwards but will support OUR candidate in the GE. I believe either one of them can beat McCain, both Clinton and Obama have received more votes than him. We need to make sure that all the new youth voters stay involved and vote in the GE.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:14 PM
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35. Hear hear!!! Very well said.
This is the bottom line, and it seems to be lost on too many around here!

Thanks for this... so happy to see another Edwards person in my boat!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:14 PM
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22. Kicking for
Agirl
Auntie Bush
griffi94
in_cog_ni_to
jlake
liberalnurse
maddiejoan
LostinVA
LadyVT
Jim4Wes
AX10
judaspriestess
Kerry2008
NastyRiffraff
UALRBSofL
pirhana
BooScout
citizen_jane
Dinger
ronnykmarshall
Justyce
fishnfla
saracat
Enrique
hayu_lol
MookieWilson
RichGirl
JohnnyLib2
Beausoir
gerrilea
Rockholm
CyberPieHole
MyPetRock
smalll
murielm99
anamnua

Those I missed please forgive me.
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:21 PM
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24. and ClintonCrusader!
too! and i'm sure there are many more...
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:24 PM
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27. I got many of those names from the Clinton check in thread. n/t
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:39 PM
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28. nicely done
good list!
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:07 PM
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45. Don't forget jackson_dem and me!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:15 PM
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23. Cheers
:thumbsup:
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Cheeseburger Walrus Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:22 PM
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26. Bravo!
Solidarity across the party will only strengthen joint resolve. All candidates and supporters should be excited for a primary that has generated more interest than any in recent memory.


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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:41 PM
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29. K&R
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:55 PM
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30. K&R, great UNIFYING thread!
We need to stand with each other, no matter who our candidate. Both Clinton and Obama are intelligent, qualified, proven leaders, and either one would make a fantastic president. We all share a longing for change, no matter what the process or who brings it. We need to stand up as Democrats to bring down the Repug spin and warmongering, and bring respect and dignity back to this great country.

This proud Dem thanks you for speaking up! Let's bring this passion into the GE, no matter who our nominee is! :kick:
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:56 PM
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31. de nada - sin duda tienes razon!
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NanBo Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:00 PM
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32. agreed
I'm sure these fine DU'ers will be voting for whomever the eventual nominee is! Go Democrats. Right!?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:13 PM
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34. Best thread in weeks!
What a wonderful thing to see! I have begun to think we have run out of original thought, and self-sufficient thinkers here on DU! You have renewed my faith. Thank you so much for this thread.

K&R!!


I hope others take your lead. I for one am tired of seeing school yard hair pulling fights. The personal attacks are really disgusting.

We need to pull our pals back from the edge... we need unity to put a Dem in the White House, which is all that really matters. And that will take a concerted effort from all... we all need to support the nominee.

Thanks again for giving me faith!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:52 PM
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37. OMG I just found this thread ..Thank you for your wonderful heart and right back atcha....
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 05:58 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
Obama and his supporters are full of the same passions and I love you all too.

soon this will all be passed us and we will all celebrate proudly together as a Dem President raises her/his hand and takes the oath of office and is in the White House for decades to come.
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:



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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:56 PM
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39. Yay!! I was bummed you missed it yesterday...
but I saw you were online-ish (at least i saw some posts by you)

so i decided to kick it again! :)

cheers & keep up your passion!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:01 PM
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40. you have no idea how much this lifted my heart... damn I am sobbing,,..LOVE TO YOU ALL
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 06:06 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:25 PM
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41. What a dang nice thread.
:loveya:
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:53 PM
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42. Props for the passion and fire...
You may argue with folks, but if their thing really is about passion for their candidate, and NOT party destruction, personal animus and other awful agendas...you tip your cap to 'em.

They've served their candidate well. Big-UPS! :)
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:02 PM
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43. Cheers to those Hillary supporters who will support the dem nominee no matter who it is
You guys are the classiest of the bunch and I am proud to have you as fellow democrats b/c you're willing to put sniping aside to see the bigger picture.

To those who won't support the dem nominee, well you know what I think of you.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:05 PM
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44. hugs for good duer's...and unity in '08.
:grouphug:
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Adams Wulff Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:15 PM
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46. Seconded n/t
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