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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:49 PM
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**Edwards endorsing Obama!!!???**
By Pamela Gentry, Senior Political Producer

Posted Feb. 20, 2008 – Could former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards (D) be ready to endorse Sen. Barack Obama? I spoke with Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) earlier today and he told me, “I know them both well, and their good friends, the issue isn’t if he’s going to do it, it’s when.”

Conyers the dean of the Congressional Black Caucus signed on early to support the freshman senator’s run for the White House.

Conyers told me, he hopes it happens before March 4, “For two reasons – Ohio and Texas.”


http://blogs.bet.com/news/pamela/2008/02/20/edwards-endorsement-in-the-future-for-obama/?cid=idnb
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:50 PM
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1. Well, Conyers is the bomb...so from his lips to God's ears!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:51 PM
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2.  One can hope; Plouffe made a stealth visit to NC today...
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/more_on_obama_campaign_manager.php

More On Obama Campaign Manager's Stealth Visit To North Carolina
By Greg Sargent - February 21, 2008, 3:06PM

The mystery deepens around Obama campaign manager David Plouffe's quiet visit to North Carolina.

Earlier today I noted that Plouffe had popped up in Raleigh, in John Edwards' home state. Plouffe denied he was there to woo Edwards.

But now the Raleigh News and Observer reports that he gave a closed-door talk to a group that included a number of major Edwards backers he was clearly wooing.

The paper also reports that a top Clinton operative is now planning to head to the state to woo financial backers, so clearly, the Hillary camp thinks something's up.

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:25 PM
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41. I would call that a *stealth* appearance...
Designed to look *stealth*, but with the full intention of it getting out.

Plouffe impresses me more every day. This was smart.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:51 PM
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3. Do they proof their stuff?
They're = they are, as in "They're good friends."

Blog rumor... with poor posting skills at that.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:53 PM
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5. Good point, spelling errors can certainly mean something is not that credible
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:07 PM
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28. Thanks for the sarcasm... my clients would absolutely feel that way
Most do.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:33 PM
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48. There's a difference between a blog and a press release
And believe me, I am far more of a spelling cop than most people. I write a few letters a year to large corporations pointing out how their sloppy spelling contributes to the dumbing down of the US.

Their is no their, their.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:53 PM
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58. Their shouldn't be a difference:)
Their, there, they're should be no difference. :silly:

I guess I'm just tired of the dumbing down altogether. I don't like people correcting other people here on DU, but those who put themselves out there as a conveyor of information should at least have the common decency and wherewithal to do it correctly. If someone misspeaks and are quoted, then the text should be for clarity.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:13 PM
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34. Actually, it could be correct.
As in "I know them both, and I know their good friends..."

Not likely, granted, but it's possible that it's actually correct, if poorly worded on the part of Conyers.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:52 PM
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4. This is a bombshell. Conyers doesn't let this kind of thing just slip out
So if it's true that he did tell her that, well... good news for Obama supporters.

If true.
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COFoothills Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:55 PM
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9. Whoop de Doo
John Edwards' endorsement stopped mattering a couple of weeks ago.

That said, I guess the good news is that this means that the party insiders must feel that Obama has this thing pretty well sewed up because Johnny wants to make sure he is backing a winner. That's why he was too chicken-shit to endorse back when it could have actually meant something.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:56 PM
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10. Is Gore chicken-shit too?
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COFoothills Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:00 PM
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20. No, his endorsement still would matter a lot.
And he doesn't have to 'pick a winner' fishing for a good job in the administration. Gore is an elder stateman of the party and is above the fray on that sort of thing. John Edwards is not. No comparison between the two situations. Apples and Oranges.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:58 PM
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Edwards endorsement matters to me
I am very interested to see which way he'll swing.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:04 PM
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26. I disagree. I think it means a lot.
Though, I agree, perhaps not as much as if it had been done earlier, but still a LOT ... especially when you consider how it adds even more momentum to
Obama's apparently unstoppable tsunami of recent wins (11 for 11) going into Texas and Ohio. Woo-hoo!! :bounce:

GO OBAMA!!!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:39 PM
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52. It does seem pretty opportunistic at this point...
He didn't exactly go out on a limb, did he?
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:51 PM
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57. This is what makes me think it's true...quote


John Edwards' endorsement stopped mattering a couple of weeks ago.

I've seen this repeated in the last three days. My guess is that it might be a device to dilute the importance of the expected endorsement.



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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:59 PM
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18. he's speculating
he doesn't have any inside info.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:08 PM
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29. And you are wish-dreaming, hoping against hope, that it's not true
when it makes perfect sense. are you questioning the OP's interpretation? geez, she talked with
Conyers personally and he apparently said what he said: "“I know them both well, and their good
friends, the issue isn’t if he’s going to do it, it’s when.” What part of that didn't you
understand?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:19 PM
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35. Edwards himself might not have made a decision
John Conyers does not have a special relationship with John Edwards, lol. There are any number of people who are closer to Edwards than John Conyers, of all people. They're probably senators, which Conyers is not. And even these people don't have inside info. Though they might be speculating as well.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:08 PM
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61. I wouldn't describe John Conyers in those terms
He is not just a Congressman, he is a powerhouse!

He usually doesn't say something that he is unsure about and lately he has been very quiet.

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:30 PM
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45. "Hoping against Hope".... the official campaign slogan of the Clinton campaign.
....
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COFoothills Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:10 PM
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32. You wish....
...Conyers is a pro. He wouldn't have opened his mouth about it if there wasn't something to it.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:20 PM
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36. I'm actually surprised he would say this
it does seem to have no purpose.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:10 PM
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33. Last year he let it slip that he'd support impeachment if just four more Congressmen supported it
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:09 AM
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76. agree.
would be amazing if true. I love me some JRE
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:53 PM
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6. I think the icing on the cake would be...
if Obama asked Edwards to be his running mate. I know Edwards has publicly stated he would not accept a request to run as VP, but what a ticket that would make.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:58 PM
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15. I don't think Edwards will be on the ticket this time.
I think Obama would need a Clark or someone like that. I think if Hillary were to win, she might conceivably choose Edwards - but the pressure to choose Obama would probably be too great.

I really don't expect Edwards to be on either ticket for those reasons. I do think AG would be an excellent place for him though.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:34 PM
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49. Yeah, unfortunately, I think
it has to be someone with military gravitas who can work with Obama synergistically..for that ol' National Security Concern. Whomever, will be a damn sight better than condi..say an 180.

But, John Edwards can do a lot worthwhile in a Dem admin.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:42 PM
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54. I think Condi would be a huge mistake...
If McCain doesn't want to be rolled over in the GE, he'd be wise to distance himself from a very unpopular administration, and any of its current participants.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:49 PM
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55. Sorry, I was talking about in 2001 when
condi was the National Security Advisor and they all looked the other way.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:10 AM
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81. Ah, my bad...
I totally misunderstood what you were saying on the first read. Sorry. :shrug:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:58 PM
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16. Reportedly his aides say he would accept if offered the VP slot
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 03:58 PM by jackson_dem
It is his only chance at ever becoming president. No one publicly says they want to be VP, even folks like Richardson and Huckabee who clearly were running for vice president all along.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:58 PM
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17. I agree,,,my dream ticket! NT
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:29 PM
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44. I agree, Edwards would be a fine addition to the ticket. n/t
:kick:
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:26 AM
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78. Don't get my hopes up.
:)
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:54 PM
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7. At least this isnt a "now that have your attention" post
:D
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COFoothills Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:57 PM
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14. I'm just glad that it is actually...
...JOHN Edwards this time. Instead of some other Edwards.

My favorite story from the 2004 election was when a 'not so politically engaged' co-worker actually thought that the guy on television who talks to peoples dead relatives was running for president.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:03 PM
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25. ha!
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:55 PM
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8. I'll believe it when I hear it.
in the meantime, this can't be anything but good news for the Obama camp. :thumbsup:
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:56 PM
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11. All The Unions Are Endorsing Obama Now
Edwards might want to get on the train before it gets too far from the station now.
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:56 PM
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12. There's are at least one post like this a day
:banghead:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:21 PM
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38. No there's not. This is a NAMED official going on the record...
...not some nameless person "close" to the campaign.

This is a first.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:56 PM
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13. At this point, I don't think it matters all that much. This would just be another blow to Hillary,
but not much of a help to Obama (other than it hurting Hillary with Edwards' base.)
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:59 PM
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19. He should wait like Gore and be there to heal the party at the convention
And who knows, maybe if there is a need for a compromise candidate...
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:00 PM
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21. You mean there will be healings at the convention??
:evilgrin:
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COFoothills Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:02 PM
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23. Compromise candidate?
ALL of our candidates are compromise candidates.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:02 PM
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22. What kind of bombshell would this be??
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 04:02 PM by ALiberalSailor
Obama announces that Edwards has accepted his invitation to be the VP candidate during the debate. Hillary could say anything, and it wouldn't matter because everyone would be talking about the "Dream Ticket". Now that's what I call being ready from day 1.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:03 PM
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24. that would knock the socks off everyone
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:09 PM
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31. I doubt anyone would even remember what was said during the debate...
...If Obama has a flair for the Dramatic, which he does, I wonder if this has crossed his mind.


A belated welcome to DU by the way! :hi:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:05 PM
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27. A big wig Obama campaign manager was in Edwards' home town today.
According to another thread.

I'm speculating he's meeting with Edwards to discuss the formal announcement.
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edgery Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:38 PM
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67. Raleigh is near Chapel Hill
but Chapel Hill is not Raleigh ;-D
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:08 PM
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30. I wish Conyers was as sure about impeachment as he is about this.
Not IF, but WHEN.

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I Vote In Pittsburgh Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:20 PM
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37. My opinion...
I think Obama is strongly considering Edwards for VP. Edwards hasn't (and won't) endorse Obama till after the primaries because it would seem like corruption to some.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:21 PM
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39. I will believe it....
when I hear it from Edwards' mouth.

Until then, I refuse to put much stock in anything else.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:22 PM
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40. Funny, I was reading some threads last week from Obama supporters
that John waited to long to endorse and that it doesn't really matter anymore. That he was just stroking his ego.

But, of course that was when somebody mentioned he was going to endorse Clinton.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:32 PM
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46. And they were wrong to give commentary, when the stories last week
were shaky indeed. I'll still believe it when I see the man say it, but Conyers is a better source than "unnamed sources".
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:26 PM
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42. YAHOO! Now that's the news I've been waiting for ...
I agree with Conyers -- do it before March 4, Johnny!!!!
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:28 PM
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43. Well, we'd certainly see some heads exploding here.
It would be worth it just for that.
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SunnyDays Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:33 PM
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47. I truly hope not...
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:35 PM
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50. who knows, it doesn't sound like he has any inside info. Sounds like that is what he wants though.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:36 PM
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51. I'm so happy to hear that....
Edwards belongs somewhere in govt....VP or AG or somethin'
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:41 PM
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53. I don't think he will endorse either one, just like Gore /nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:51 PM
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56. do you think that the original article was supposed to say
they are good friends

or

their good friends.

Hopefully it is the former
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:55 PM
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59. March 6. That is the date that I predict for the endorsement.
It gives Hillary a chance to mull-over her loss in Texas (narrow win in Ohio) on March 5.

If she doesn't bow out, then Edwards endorses on March 6, which also coincides with the anniversary of the end of the Alamo.

And yes, I'm just talking out of my ass here.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:22 PM
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63. Any more word on this?
:shrug:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:03 PM
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60. I think not. I would hope John has more integrity than that! And I r
really doubt that Conyers would be clued into anything Edwards is doing.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:09 PM
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64. Why do you say that, Saracat?
The integrity part.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:31 PM
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70. Because of the sordidness assocuated with barak. Just saying..
Not only does Barack associate with criminals but his campaign did a lot of really questionable things that the Edwards campaign is well aware of like busing out of twon kids in to vote and paying them $250 each for their vote.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:41 PM
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71. I trust John to make a wise decision no matter who he endorses.
I will support his decision 100% and never question his integrity.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:36 PM
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62. NO......Not before Convention if then
I wouldn't get in the middle, let the campaign go on until one fall, and the other can say he won on his or her own.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:11 PM
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65. John had better hurry and endorse Obama before Bill & Hillary do on Wednesday.
And I am serious.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:14 PM
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66. I wish ! I'm so tired of this I can't stand it. Not sure I have what it takes to watch this through
another set of primaries/debates.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:10 AM
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77. they have to let it go to Mar 4 so they can continue to raise money to pay
off some debt
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:42 PM
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68. I wouldn't hold my breath
The last *credible* thing I read stated that Edwards was taking the same road as Gore and NOT endorsing either.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:12 AM
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84. I hope he endorses neither!
Remain neutral!

I am not excited about either remaining candidate...

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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:54 PM
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69. As an Edwards supporter, if he endorses
Obama, I will respect his decision but it will not change my support for Hillary Clinton now.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:04 AM
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73. Listen to John. If he endorses Obama, is for a reason.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:07 AM
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75. same could be said if he endorses Clinton
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:56 AM
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80. Yes.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:03 AM
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72. Anything new?
:bounce:
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:06 AM
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74. Let's hope this is true!
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d.amber Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:55 AM
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79. I don't think he will endorse either now
As a prior Edwards supporter, I don't think it does John any good to endorse either at this point. His supporters have split between Hillary and Obama...though personally I split to Obama as I want Change and I can't go back to the past..Clintons.

However, some of his supporters want a fighter and they want the health care that Hillary is proposing. Notice that she came up with her plan quite awhile after Edwards and Obama had their plans out. Better late then never.

But still..if he joins Obama at this point, I just don't see how it does him any real favors. He will be ready to support the winner and then he will go out fighting for them and our party.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:42 AM
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82. I was an Edwards supporter also, and I hope he doesn't endorse.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 08:44 AM by liberalla
I will vote for whoever the Dem nominee is, but I'm not especially inspired by either one.

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:43 AM
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83. Whatever. He dithered too long to make a difference.
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