I'm sick of hopes and dreams!

[ArtieBoy]

At first I wanted to believe I could support Barack as eagerly as I supported Hillary, but South Carolina proved that couldn't be the case. Now I'm filled to the gills with he and Michelle's endless, empty "hope and dreams" rhetoric.

I've expressed this fully on my blog. I would appreciate knowing if anyone else feels the same. If he's nominated I'll still support him and stuff my misgivings when around Republicans, but...I'm not too sure about this.

http://www.artsbarandgrill.net

[scheming daemons]

1. You're right!

We should run on a campaign of "Don't Get Your Hopes Up" like Hillary or "Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter Here" like McCain.

:eyes:

[paperbag_ princess]

40. although that is not true...it is funny

:lol

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. When the parodies of Obama start it's going to be tough

for him to keep that stuff up.

[BlackVelvet04]

3. All you can do is what your conscience

tells you to do. That's what I'm doing. I could give you all the reasons why I support Hillary but in the end it comes down to gut and conscience.

[RememberWellstone]

9. Me too

I am not a lemming by any stretch..I think we are making a huge tactical mistake if the party chooses Obama..we have no idea what the rethugs will do in the GE.

[superkia]

48. I hope that we as a people actually have some common sense...

and wont allow lies and mud throwing to tell us who to choose in the GE. It amazes me how much I hear people talk like this, have we all been dumbed down to the point that we cant look at facts and mudslinging and tell the difference? We deserve another republican if we are that ignorant. I don't care what the republicans throw around, I will do my research and choose a president on facts not bullshit.

Maybe I am smarter than I think and Americans are just really stupid and wont be able to tell the difference between truth and lies but I think we are a smarter people than that. I think allot of the usual sheeple have finally awoke and are looking at the facts.

[yourguide]

47. I agree

and although I support the other candidate I fully agree with your take on how to choose who to support.

[bigwillq]

4. Obama has more substance than hopes and dreams

and with an increased majorities in Congress, I feel Obama can be a good president.

I think the same of Hillary Clinton.

[mac2]

6. How do they both feel about Stem Cell research or

will they not anger the "religious powers that be"?

[bigwillq]

10. Obama on stem cell research:

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060717-statement_of_su/

[bigwillq]

11. H. Clinton on stem cell research

http://www.votehillary.org/CMS/node/737

[mac2]

17. Thanks for that information

I had Polio at age 5. I was paralyzed on my right side. It took me until I was 13 years old to recover fully. I owe my recovery to Sister Kenny treatments.

When they lined up for the Salk vaccines I was first there. There is more than one type of Polio...about three I think.

When I first started working in the research laboratories they had iron lung Polio patients. Some spent years in them. I was lucky to have another type Polio and did recover.

Now as I age I hope for a cure for Diabetes with Stem Cell research. So many Americans have it. That and MS, Lupus, back deterioration, etc.

[mac2]

5. Me too. I want my Constitution and Rights back.

If we don't have that we fought in vein didn't we? Don't promise me hope...or whatever. Give me concrete changes and plans. This is not about religion but our countries very survival...our future.

[BlackVelvet04]

7. PS

I tried to post a comment on your blog but don't have a google account.

I'll admit here that I watch American Idol. It's a nice break from politics.

[ArtieBoy]

12. You can comment anonymously

You don't have to have a Google account. It will let you post anonymously, too.

I admit yes, I'm being a bit of an attention whore for my blog, but I'm also wondering if anyone else feels like I do, that those who have created this 11-state winning streak for Obama have voted style and rosy words over substance.

[BlackVelvet04]

14. I find it frightening when

anyone is idolized the way some people do Obama. I've done a lot of research and I think he's a fake. I also think that a lot of the people voting for him in the primaries are republicans who won't vote for him in the G.E.

[mac2]

19. We should demand more of the candidates

after all they work for us and represent our interests (don't they)? They should tell us what exactly they are going to do regarding our rights, the war, trade, the falling dollar, open borders, our reputation around the world, torture, etc. Accountability for the 911 crimes, etc. is important to us so it should be important to them.

I haven't heard the hard questions or answers yet.

[keep_it_real]

8. Don't you get it? Where there is no Hope there is no Life.

America gets it. Where there is life there is Hope and where there is Hope there is life. And where there is NO Hope there is no Life. For millions of Americans there is only the death of cities and opportunity and no hope of tomorrow. Obama offers a Hope of a better tomorrow a Hope of a better Life tomorrow and Americans are grabbing at the Hope like a dehydrated men/women in the desert of America with no water of Hope to go on.

I believe Obama will be true to his words and put his words into deeds.

Go America! Go Bama!

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

13. They always say it's sex that sells, but it's not.

Even sex has something underlying it.

That thing is hope.

Hope that your genetic stew will survive your paltry lifespan, that's what sex is.

But it's hope that sells.

Hope makes you roll the dice.

Hope makes you put down the gun. Or pick it up.

Hope makes you try, try again, even if you'd be better off not trying, but just wait to see what happens next.

Hope keeps hope alive.

It's not that I don't believe in hope. Its effects are far too real not to believe in it.

I just don't trust it all that much.

Edit to add: don't even get me started about change.

[DemGa]

15. Good for you -- you came to your senses

That's all that matters. The Obama phenom will be seen as one of the sillier periods in American History.

[bluedawg12]

16. OMG- I "hope" I never hear the word "hope" again. n/t

[mac2]

20. I hope you don't either. It would be a change.

[bluedawg12]

26. Is it the audacity of change or the change for hope? So confusing. n/t

[Trajan]

18. Aren't big on 'The Vision Thing' ?

Well, you probably would have hated (or did in fact hate) John F. Kennedy .... He did that 'vision thing-oratory' combo really good too ....

[mac2]

22. He had answers not just "vision"

[Trajan]

24. I am thinking ...

You might be giving his ideas short shrift ....

He has expressed a number of policy planks, and if you really wanted to see them, you could visit his website and find out for yourself ...

But then again: It is MUCH more fun to sit on your ass right here and shoot spitballs from a dirty straw .... eh ?

BTW: I support both Hillary and Obama ....

[Beausoir]

23. Oh yeah. That's it for sure! I'm sure the OP hates JFK.

Good Christ.

Like you would know ANYTHING about JFK.

[Trajan]

29. JFK ? ...

Who the fuck is that ?

JFK liked 'The Vision Thing' ....

Obama likes 'The Vision Thing' ....

Obama is like JFK ....

Person dislikes Obama due to 'vision thing', and so it would therefore be entirely consistent to dislike ALL purveyors of 'The Vision Thing' .... Whether JFK, Picasso or Bertrand Russell ...

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I am getting really tired of as^%$#@s whacking on our wonderful candidates ..... ONE of them will be our candidate soon .......

[Beausoir]

30. What the fuck was THAT all about?

How...odd.

What an incoherent post.

[Trajan]

31. Apparently ...

You lack the vision thing ...

But it is duly noted: You spend ALOT of time here attacking our candidates .....

Duly noted .....

Now: Back to your 'Whack A Mole' game, Einstein ....

[robbedvoter]

41. Must be an aftereffect of chanting. I noticed, logic goes first.

Someone I know, very intelligent, but given to hype...Few days ago, she told me she "leans Obama". Within minutes she was screaming at me (hating Hillary) and later spouting idiocies such as "they can only steal elections if it's close". And this is someone who went in Ohio to recount in 2004.
Once I reminded her that, she admitted Obama wouldn't fight for his votes, but came back with "Hillary would lose that fight - because everyone hates her"

[Trajan]

50. Not a hater here ....

I like both of them .... like most other Democrats ....

If you seek a hater, look for those who would insist that ANYONE who would support Obama 'chants' .....

It is quite obvious that there is hatred in this thread, and it begins with the OP .....

[Steely_Dan]

49. I Think...

you got your Modus Ponens stuck in your Modus Tolens.

-P

[Adelante]

43. "Like you would know ANYTHING about JFK."

What assumption are you making? How would you possibly know what a poster knows about JFK?

[emilyg]

21. K&R

[NJObamaWoman]

25. I'm sick of racism, poverty, illiteracy etc

Hope and dreams is something I want and live off of to get through the day.

[ObamaFan]

33. Amen sister

Sick of hopes and dreams...wtf?

[Arugula Latte]

27. But, apparently, the majority of us are more sick of Hillary than you are of hope.

[Thrill]

28. How about reading and listening..he offers more than rhetoric

It pisses me off to no end how people can have the knowledge to run a blog. But can't take their ass over to his website and see his plans. Instead of reciting McCain and Hillary talking points

[ArtieBoy]

44. Yes, I like his site, but...

The book he has on his site is great. However, the people who are filling arenas to hear him seem to be there for the football chants and the hope/dream speeches. It's like marketers put some sensors on a test audience to see what buzzwords got the seratonin flowing in their minds, and they narrowed it down to hope, dreams and change. The fact he had more "present" votes in the Illinois legislature than anyone and that he's spent his entire time in the U.S. Senate running for president doesn't help anything. I just think in these times we need someone who can get the ship upright quickly, and having two people who've been there, done that could be a great asset. The Obamas are great TV spokesmodels but not experienced enough.

[Raejeanowl]

32. Sometimes Reality Intervenes

Before all that hope comes crashing down on you. I think it's all just a symptom of what we've been through these past eight years, now diving headlong into magical thinking that all will be put right if we just believe.

I'll check out your blog. And thank you for having the honesty to say what you think, living as we do in the Obamanation.

[anigbrowl]

34. What a miserable life you must lead. I'm sad for you.

Try not to depress your kids or grandkids too much, mmmkay?

[LadyVT]

35. I think this is great. Obama leaves me feeling empty.

[mac2]

36. How is it that Senator Dodd stated the first thing he would

do as President would be to return our rights and the Constitution but others can't? He was upfront about it.

It is part of their oath of office.

[Hutzpa]

37. There are two things you can do...

take a medicine.......:spray:

or go see a doctor......:yoiks:


Bwahahaha!

:rofl:

[noiretextatique]

38. although he's captured a lot of people with that chant

i am not one of them. he's good at marketing the message though.

[noiretextatique]

39. i am sick of the SOS marketed as "hope and change"

my hope is that we build on the momentum, and continue to raise our expectations of what our government can do, and should not do. and i hope we do not continue to re-write history in the process.
for example, the republican party has been the party of ideas for the past 10-15 years, but their ideas have been destructive and regressive. i truly hope obama is changing the hearts and minds of the republicans who are voting for him, but i am not convinced yet.

[Tennessee Gal]

42. I have great concerns about this.

I fear the Democratic party may be making a big mistake.

And that is not based upon my current support for Hillary. Edwards was my first choice.

[DemVet]

45. Hopes and dreams are fine, but...

...solutions are where the rubber meets the road. He needs to put out a few more of his "solutions" that are part of his "hopes" and "dreams." People WILL get sick and tired of this mindless chanting after awhile.

[ProSense]

46. So is Karl Rove:

Obama's New Vulnerability

By KARL ROVE

February 21, 2008; Page A17

In campaigns, there are sometimes moments when candidates shift ground, causing the race to change dramatically. Tuesday night was one of those moments.

Hammered for the 10th contest in a row, Hillary Clinton toughened her attacks on Barack Obama, saying he was unready to be commander in chief and unable to back his inspiring words with a record of action and leadership.

John McCain also took on Mr. Obama, with the Arizona senator declaring he would oppose "eloquent but empty calls for change that promises no more than a holiday from history and a return to the false promises and failed policies of a tired philosophy that trusts in government more than people."

<...>

The truth is that Mr. Obama is unwilling to challenge special interests if they represent the financial and political muscle of the Democratic left. He says yes to the lobbyists of the AFL-CIO when they demand card-check legislation to take away the right of workers to have a secret ballot in unionization efforts, or when they oppose trade deals. He won't break with trial lawyers, even when they demand the ability to sue telecom companies that make it possible for intelligence agencies to intercept communications between terrorists abroad. And he is now going out of his way to proclaim fidelity to the educational unions. This is a disappointment since he'd earlier indicated an openness to education reform. Mr. Obama backs their agenda down the line, even calling for an end to testing, which is the only way parents can know with confidence whether their children are learning and their schools working.

These stands represent not just policy vulnerabilities, but also a real danger to Mr. Obama's credibility and authenticity. He cannot proclaim his goal is the end of influence for lobbies if the only influences he seeks to end are lobbies of the center and the right.

Unlike Bill Clinton in 1992, Mr. Obama is completely unwilling to confront the left wing of the Democratic Party, no matter how outrageous its demands, no matter how out of touch it might be with the American people. And Tuesday night, in a key moment in this race, he dropped the pretense that his was a centrist agenda. His agenda is the agenda of the Democratic left.

In recent days, courtesy of Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, Mr. Obama has invoked the Declaration of Independence, Martin Luther King, Jr., and Franklin Roosevelt to show the power of words. But there is a critical difference between Mr. Obama's rhetoric and that of Jefferson, King and FDR. In each instance, their words were used to advance large, specific purposes -- establishing a new nation based on inalienable rights; achieving equal rights and a color-blind society; giving people confidence to endure a Great Depression. For Mr. Obama, words are merely a means to hide a left-leaning agenda behind the cloak of centrist rhetoric. That garment has now been torn. As voters see what his agenda is, his opponents can now far more effectively question his authenticity, credibility, record and fitness to be leader of the free world.

The road to the presidency just got steeper for Barack Obama, and all because he pivoted on Tuesday night.

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