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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:38 PM
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". . .Proud of my country. . ." yeah sure
Does not pride classically go before a fall?

If she's already transcended the fall given our long term, curious and somewhat checkered history then "creatrix" bless her.

Psssssssssssssssst. . .

We've taken a rather steep fall in recent years if you hadn't noticed.

That torture or "severe rendition" or "enemy combatants" or the suspension of habeas corpus, and the rule of law, have even entered our lexicon or national discourse under the bogus guise of national security, has my 13th generational maternal blood simmering at a slow boil and has for a long time.

I went overseas to school as a teenager.

I was starry eyed about what I thought America to be. Endoctranated into the programing of our moral supremacy I was thoroughly shocked to hear from the BBC what the CIA had done in Chile back then. I much later learned years later what we did to Iran in '53.

I became apolitical.

Upon my return I remember that seeing the fall of John Lennon followed shortly before the coronation of Reagan.

I thought, "this too shall pass" and held my nose whilst our alleged governance indulged in Iran-Contra in trading cocaine for arms and were all summarily pardoned.

I foolishly hoped they just would all go away.

Boy oh boy was I misguided in that wish.

To see the same players so effectively experience a resurgence in the national spotlight through dubious means was thoroughly obnoxious.

Then I unwittingly married a Republican. I didn't even realize he was one until our vitriolic divorce.

I again felt a flurry of hope when Clinton was elected and inaugurated, though I didn't vote for him. One could just feel it palpably. I voted for Hagelin on the TM ticket. I just loved the thought of a meditating Physicist being the Pres. That would totally be qualified and be defined as a throw away vote. One other person in my dinky town voted for him. I always wondered who that was.

Yeah I live in a deeply Blue state and I felt Clinton would win anyway. Yet the Pukes were successful in miring him in a bunch of baloney culminating in the totally lame impeachment hearings wherein the woman in question wasn't even complaining. In fact, she was bragging. I wrote some of my most scathing and funniest stuff about that and I was defending him.

To see those very same players from Iran/Contra and their minions "loot and waste" our treasury sans any accountability whatsoever has been totally reprehensible to me.

With Obama we have a chance to rectify things with a WHOLE NEW paradigm.

His potential nomination blows away the bogus myth of bigoted white supremacy.

It dispels the notion which negates our greatest asset. That would be our very diversity.

I'm sorry for Hillary and her supporters. But her message simply isn't heart centered as her husband's was years ago.

She is just too calculating and contrived and if we're gonna have a woman president, let it not be someone masquerading as a hawkish male.

There is a Michelle Obama event several miles away from where I'm located.

I want to support her with all this.

For various reasons I cannot. So I'm doing it this way.

America has sins upon our soul. Slavery, the slaughter of our Natives are nothing of which to be prideful. We've had horrible foreign policies for a REALLY long time.

The best thing for our security is not pissing off the rest of the world anymore. IMHO

But "Yes we can."

creds to "Bob the Builder"






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azureblue Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:42 PM
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1. Psssst
You fell for the Michelle O. smear hook line & sinker. Or else you are part of the bunch that is trying to keep the is lie afloat. you know quite well that a critical word was edited out of what she said. If you do not know by now, the word for you is "fool".
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:46 PM
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4. there is you tube that shows her saying the same phrase twice in
two different locations with the exception that one she includes the word "really" and another in which she clearly does not. Just so you know that many people feel that the "editing" allegation has been debunked.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:00 PM
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7. No I absolutely didnt'
I was defending her and agreeing with her.

Do you know how to read?

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:10 PM
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10. wrong
there are two videos of two different events. In one, she leaves out the word "really".

And there's little difference between the two - it's already being used against her, and will be again.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:29 PM
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11. It's bogus
she is a simply a star IMHO
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:31 PM
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12. LOL
OK, they're not using it against her. I just imagined that.
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adabfree Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:42 PM
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2. Excellent Post!!!
:applause: :yourock:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:45 PM
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3. Very interesting.
Nominated.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:52 PM
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5. "I went overseas to school as a teenager."
So you are a member of the Obama Lexus/Limousine group. So I could only imagine the revulsion of being an American that you were subjected to. Oh, and of course no one told you how they would like to live here. Nobody.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:08 PM
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9. No one was repulsive in reaction to me.
I had a good experience.

My father was an educator and received 30% of the pay of his peers because his predecessor (a single school marm) never accepted a wage increase for 20 years.

I paid for my tuition and expenses by working on a farm since I was 8 and gave half of my wages away to someone who is now a wealthy model. Stop making stupid assumptions please,

You are a bit hostile. Consider lightening up. . .okay?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:54 PM
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6. You know what I'm not proud of?
This McCarthyist bullshit about labelling people as unpatriotic. I can't understand what people who do things like that are really being proud of when they say they're proud of being american.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:01 PM
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8. "The best thing for our security is not pissing off the rest of the world anymore."
I TOTALLY agree with that! I think either of them will be a vast improvement over the last few years!
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:40 PM
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13. what is this "new paradigm?"
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 05:40 PM by noiretblu
can you please elaborate on that? thanks.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:02 PM
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14. Well there are several metaphysical reasons for that.
primarily entering the photon belt astophysically.

Sill for a person of mixed race rise and be recognized
as a serious contender is in and of itself powerful.

I'm happy for it
.











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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:37 PM
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18. never mind eom
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:10 PM
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15. This deserves a K&R. nt
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:26 PM
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16. Nice!
:hug: and :loveya:
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:35 PM
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17. A K&R for a very well-written, well-reasoned post.. n/t
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