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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:25 PM
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Reality Check: If this primary fight goes to the DNC, what will happen?
What is your opinion?

Will our nominee kick the snot out of McCain in the GE?

Will our nominee break even with McCain and we will have another squeaker election thrown by rigging it 'just enough' (just like 2000 and 2004)?

Will our nominee get the snot kicked out of them by McCain because we used up all of our gas in the Primaries?

What are your thoughts?
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:26 PM
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1. If the one who wins most delegates through primaries/caucuses wins then it is OK, if not it is shit
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:29 PM
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2. Agree -- I hope that those whose candidate doesn't garner those delegates
agree and accept that as being fair, too.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:34 PM
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3. what do you mean by OK?
OK in the sense that we'll still have plenty of time to raise money for a national campaign, build the ground crew, unify a highly fractured base (Hillary vs Barack, whoever it is) and then mount a convincing fight against the GOP and take our nominee to the Oval Office?

That OK or something else?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:35 PM
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4. There are no delegates in Florida. They were sanctioned.
They were told that early on, and defied the rules anyway. There are zero delegates in Florida.

From instigator to victim. It was a Dem who introduced the early primary bill in Florida.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

How it began last August....how Florida Democrats began their propaganda war
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Think I exaggerate about Florida's attitude? Here's a county chairperson's rant against Dean.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Enough of this. Florida Democrats now threaten Dean and the DNC with a "voting rights probe".
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

The "appropriate legal official" to "investigate" Dean and the DNC...is...Gonzales.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Nelson: "I will lead the delegates to Denver whether or not the DNC plans to let them in."
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Two summaries of the DNC committee ruling about Florida.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Florida sowed the seeds of a propaganda war against the DNC.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Proof. Vindication. Both Florida parties did it for "relevance." From March.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

The latest Florida propaganda tactic here about attacking the DNC...local email.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Florida's Geller joked about his amendment: "sarcasm and audible laughter in chamber"
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

One Florida county is saying there will be further bloodshed. Much argument here today.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Florida Democratic Party website building anger toward the DNC
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Democratic activist sues over loss of Florida delegates
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

"Dean was conciliatory and offered DNC help for the state"..hour long phone call
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Gelber admits they did not fight the GOP about the primary.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

"Primary bully Florida ought to be ashamed"...four articles catch on to Florida's primary ploy.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Bill Nelson today will file a bill for regional primaries...but first he had to get your attention
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Bill Nelson today: "DNC penalties unacceptable, unacceptable, unacceptable"
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Carl Levin and Terry McAuliffe made a deal about primaries in 2004.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Email from Florida DEC chairs saying not to give to the DNC or candidates.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Pelosi says it is not Florida's fault at all. So if the speaker says it I must be wrong.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

"Florida Democrats are all for it"...March 2006. All for the early primary that far ahead.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Details on how Florida worked with the GOP to set the early primary date.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Nobody sued Terry McAuliffe when he said Michigan's delegates would not get near Boston.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Nelson and Levin of Michigan file the bill today. It's getting deeper
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

My postings about the heartbreak of the Florida primary fiasco.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Florida Dems at convention have button that says "Screw Dean"...very classy.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...

Senate leader ponders suing 'rogue states' over primary
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...



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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:39 PM
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6. I think you misunderstood my question.
I understand that you think this can't go to the convention, but given the stubbornness of both sides, I can see emense pressure for the one lagging behind to fight it out to the bitter end no matter what the cost, rules and majority have to say about it.

I see daily calls from Hillary Clinton supporters to 'fight it to the end' and Obama supporters saying the same thing. So, based on that, there is a real possibility this could go to the convention.

So, I'm saying here, if it goes to the convention, when we will defiantly have a nominee, what are our chances against the GOP at that time?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:45 PM
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7. If they count FL, the nominee will not be legit.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:38 PM
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5. No $ to DNC Unless They Follow Pledged Delegates
We should let the superdelegates know that we will not donate a single dollar to the DNC or State Committees unless they follow the will of the voters. That means voting for whichever candidate has received the largest number of elected/pledged delegates across the country.

We can easily direct our donations directly to candidates, and cut out the middlemen.
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