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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:21 PM
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Does Obama know enough..
about foreign policy to go against McCain in a debate? Tell me why you think he does. Not just concerning Iraq. I am not asking for any smart assed answers but why you really believe he knows a lot
I know that he has relations in Indonesia and Kenya, but I want to hear some specifics if certain questions are asked in a debate, he seemed to have a hard time in one of the debates when he was talking about Pakistan...and we know he will be asked because he is going against McCain if he wins. I am asking this because this is what I keep hearing from the rightwing...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:24 PM
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1. You realize he is on the Foreign Relations Committee, right? McCain is not.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:46 PM
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15. And Obama is a quick study and his top advisors are TOPNOTCH on Pakistan and the entire region.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 02:47 PM by blm
His advisors are Richard Clarke, Gary Hart, John Kerry, Susan Rice, Anthony Lake, Lawrence Korb and Gen Anthony Zinni. Kerry, Hart and Clarke are this nation's top minds on tracking of terror networks.

Hillary's Top advisor was also Tony Blair's top American advisor from 2001-2007 - how did that work out for him and his country?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:47 PM
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16. I believe Hillary also has neocon Michael O'Hanlon on her advisory staff.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:24 PM
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22. But he hasn't done anything.
He is in charge of Europe . . . and has never even been there.

I don't even believe he has been to Iraq or Afghanistan.

The only thing I have ever seen him do is ask Petreaus and Crocker a question that was discussed in detail during the same hearing in Sept 2007.



http://foreign.senate.gov/jurisdiction.html
SUBCOMMITTEE ON EUROPEAN AFFAIRS



Barack Obama, Chairman

Jim DeMint, Ranking Member



Jurisdiction:

The subcommittee deals with all matters concerning U.S. relations with the countries on the continent of Europe (except the states of Central Asia that are within the jurisdiction of the Subcommittee on Near Eastern and South Asian Affairs), and with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Matters relating to Greenland and the northern polar region are also the responsibility of this subcommittee.

This subcommittee's responsibilities include all matters within the geographic region relating to: (1) terrorism and non-proliferation; (2) crime and illicit narcotics; (3) U.S. foreign assistance programs; and (4) the promotion of U.S. trade and exports.

-----------------
Well at least he has Kerry to help him.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:24 PM
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2. Let's turn it around, also.
What are John McCain's views on, let's say, whether we should support repressive regimes that supply us with oil but are our "friends?"
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:25 PM
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3. He did perfect on Pakistan
unless you want to continue with this same global domination mindset that ends us up in wars in places we have no business being.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:18 PM
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20. the OP wants us to do what Bill Clinton advises - worked out great for Tony Blair, eh?
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 06:22 PM by blm
Hillary is Tony Blair WEARING a poodle skirt while she performs as a poodle doing whatever the BFEE demands. Just like Tony.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:32 PM
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24. Oh yeah - he did GREAT on Pakistan ----


Pakistani protesters burn a U.S. flag to condemn U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama's remarks, Friday, Aug. 3, 2007, in Karachi, Pakistan. Pakistan criticized Obama for saying that, if elected, he might order unilateral military strikes inside this Islamic nation to root out terrorists. (AP Photo/Shakil Adil)


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2007/08/obama_attacks_pakistan_pakista.html

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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:26 PM
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4. McCain will do what Chimpy did
Is that too hard to argue against?
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:27 PM
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5. Don't worry
Brzezinski, et al. will prepare him well.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:28 PM
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6. McCain is a senile
grumpy grandpa with a temper. I would try to tick him off and show that temper for all to see. Big dog could do it, not sure about Hillary or Obama.
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:23 PM
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21. Don't underestimate him.. Thats how we lose ... n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:28 PM
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7. Of course. Jon Stewart knows enough foreign policy to debate McCain.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:38 PM
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13. And, I believe, HAS... much to McCain's embarrassment. - n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:30 PM
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8. So far, Obama, unlike both HRC and McCain, knows not to put inept dumb-a**es in charge of his
Campaign. Right there's a good start. Obama is a TRUE LEADER and good judge of people. He will listen to his advisers, unlike HRC who is said to be "self-righteous" and "secretive." Yes, not so unlike Chimpy ... smarter but self-righteous and micro-managing is NOT better. :thumbsdown:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:31 PM
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9. Yes. What on earth makes you think that McCain
is a formidable debater? He's not. He comes off quite badly in the debate format.

Obama is an informed man. He has some very good advisors. He serves on the foreign relations committee. He's done fine in debates so far. I don't see him being bested by McCain in a debate.
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texas_indy Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:32 PM
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10. McDud wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years., sounds pretty stupid or senile to me. (nt)
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:34 PM
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11. You can bet Joe Biden will give whatever tutoring Obama might need....n/t
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:38 PM
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12. And John Kerry.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:49 PM
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17. I'm holding off naming him because he hasn't endorsed yet, but yeah, I'd include him
when it comes to preparing Obama for debate.

I actually am hoping Kerry talks him into endorsing Obama sooner rather than later, and that Kerry also talks Obama into tapping Biden as VP.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:43 PM
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14. You do know that Richard Clarke, the Richard Clarke of the Clinton
Administration, is one of his chief advisers on foreign relations, don't you?
That goes along way with me. He is one of the smartest people in Washington advising
one of the smartest men in Washington.

When the center of McCain's policy is to bomb, bomb Iran and be in Iraq for 100 years,
you do not need to worry so much about how Obama will do in those debates.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:13 PM
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18. Yes, he does. nt
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:21 PM
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19. Judge for yourself:
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070701faessay86401/barack-obama/renewing-american-leadership.html

Barack Obama lays out his foreign policy platform in foreign Affairs, which is (in case you don't know) 'THE' policy journal on the subject. I think several other candidates laid out their views in the same issue. FA is well worth reading if you can afford the bi-monthly cost of about $13.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:27 PM
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23. He was sohpisticated enough to see IRAQ any other questions?
I have one for you?

Has any couple heading for the Whitehouse ever had better Academic credentials than the Obama's
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:34 PM
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25. Is McCain smart enough to debate anything?
I can't remember and neither can he.
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