HILLARY CLINTON destroying the democratic party

[dempartisan23]

i feel that her thirst for power will take us all down. she has turned bitter and negative. she will turn away alot of voters in nov. i urge everyone to support obama.

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[NJmaverick]

3. Well that post made me want to vote for Hillary

NOT! congrats it's supporters like you that have succeeded in turning me completely off from the Clintons. I swear, I will NEVER vote for her or any of her family again. That's a promise, and one I will keep.

[LulaMay]

27. Oh yes, I remember when you were so undecided, yelling at us all to be quiet and go home

Buzz off!

[NJmaverick]

33. At one time I was undecided

Your candidates unethical actions turned me off to supporting her in the primaries. YOUR actions have turned me so off to her, I will NEVER vote for her, her husband or her daughter. Good work! I am sure Hillary is happy with what you have accomplished.

[Unbowed]

29. We have to be careful not to equate these types of posts with the candidate.

The motives for such an attack are not clear. I'm not voting for Clinton because of what I see from both her and Obama. I've made my choice on the candidates themselves not because of some nasty people on this board whose motives are unknown.

I'll certainly vote for HRC if it comes down to her or McCain, but as long as I have a choice, I'll support the candidate who I believe most cares about the country, the Democratic Party and all Americans. We are not just a demographic or a blue state to Obama. That's why I support him.

But boy do I agree, these rude people really get my goat and it will be harder to support Clinton if she legitimately wins the nomination. You have to wonder if they don't know that. Again, what is the motivation? Hmmm...let's see...

[NJmaverick]

38. We are judged by the company we keep

If Hillary attracts these types of people and inspires this sort of behavior, what will she do as President? Sorry I fought too long against right wing nut jobs, that used the exact same tactics. I didn't fight that hard and long only to see the tactics adopted by people of my own party. I have to take a moral stand. I have to demand better of my politicians and the people that support them. Otherwise nothing will get better, it will only get worse.

[leftynyc]

41. If we're judged by the company we

keep, I can't possibly vote for Senator Obama. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Unbowed]

54. Well, I was trying to be subtle when I mentioned motives.

But the bottom line is: these may not really be supporters of Hillary Clinton at all.

There is no doubt that disruption is a tactic of the right and that "divide and conquer" works for them every time. Our side never gets it. We need to take a step back, take a deep breath and believe NOTHING as gospel. When somebody repeats something that only hurts their supposed candidate, I frankly question who their candidate is.

That said, there HAVE been some distressing attacks directly from the Clinton campaign that must be taken at face value.

[NJmaverick]

55. Good points

You make some very good points.

[Unbowed]

56. Thanks, I'm trying to keep my cool. Not always easy around here. :-) n/t

[NashVegas]

68. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Y'all just can't quit it, can ya?

[dempartisan23]

4. she cant win with her high negatives

and it isnt helping that she is turning off a large part of our base. i dont get why we seem to want a president mccain.

[rodeodance]

52. try thinking for self once in a while -that meme is years old and she is still standing.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

10. a thoughtful rebuttal. you've won me over.

[zulchzulu]

12. Another college dropout for Hillary

Crack a book. No, not over your head...

[donheld]

13. What an asshole!

[IndianaGreen]

15. Winning the hearts and minds, I see.

:eyes:

[Renew Deal]

20. Obviously her supporters are just like her.

:shrug:

[BooScout]

21. well said....

:toast:

[griffi94]

2. nope

won't support obama......

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

5. I think its a case of crash and burn

if she doesn't win, she is willing to take the DNC down.
If she can't win, no one may.

Notice the blame being put on Howard Dean (not DLC, 50 state strategy) for
the Florida and Michigan F' up

[thereismore]

9. yup, that's what it feels like. nt

[dempartisan23]

32. i agree

republicns know they can only win if clinton is the nominee. she will rip us to shreds and give mccain the presidency. its amazing, a few months ago it looked like donald duck could be our nominee and win and now we seem to be throwing it down the toilet. even the congressional generic preference has went from double digits in our favor to 44-40 now. clinton will also kill our congressional gains.

[CorpGovActivist]

70. .

[Eurobabe]

73. Exactly

[noiretextatique]

6. if you are a dem partisan

i am the queen of england :eyes:

[jaysunb]

19. Your Higness...

Yor are a Queen. :rofl: :hi:

[noiretextatique]

24. queen of oakland

:rofl: WE are not amused by hysterical rantings :hi:

[thereismore]

7. I can't wait for her campaign to call it quits. nt

[Arugula Latte]

11. God, that can't happen soon enough. nt

[zulchzulu]

16. I have champagne ready for that day

Hell, I'll buy them airline tickets to Punjab.

[meow mix]

64. im going to throw a party.

no matter what day its on.

[cbayer]

8. i suggest you self-delete nt.

[donheld]

18. Why?

[billyoc]

14. No, she won't, but she'll put a hurting on the DLC. nt

[Midlodemocrat]

17. Oh, sweet Jesus.

:rofl:

[RandomKoolzip]

22. Duh

[LulaMay]

23. My God! She's a MONSTER! An INSATIABLE AMAZONIAN GIANT! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!

RRRAAAAARRRRRRRRR RRRRAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR

She's going to 'TAKE US ALL DOWN'! AAHHHHHHHH AAAHHHHHH She's FEARSOME, FREAKISHLY UNLIKEABLE

YES! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!IT'S THE WOMAN WHO ATE NEW YORK!


This message brought to you by sexist WEENIES for Obama.



I do apologize. I don't typically call names, but give me a BREAK.

[sampsonblk]

25. Oh yeah, you're definitely not part of the problem

/sarcasm

[ruggerson]

26. Yet another Obama just-joined-never-donated troll weighs in

[Midlodemocrat]

28. Yup. Coming out of the woodwork

and unfortunately being welcomed with open arms by some. It's disgusting.

[LostinVA]

53. I am quite frankly exhausted with it

[goodgd_yall]

31. Yeah---I smell it! n/t

[stevietheman]

30. Correction: THE CLINTONS destroying the Democratic Party n/t

n/t

[dempartisan23]

45. very true

[LulaMay]

34. PS- HILL-ARIOUSLY stupid.

[End Of The Road]

35. 16 Recs for this drivel?

My, we're an intelligent bunch here at DU.

[goodgd_yall]

39. Oh, man,,from the mouths of babes.

Welcome, End Of The Road!

Ridiculous, isn't it. Like a mother eating its young.

[BigDDem]

36. Don't forget

she single handily started the war.
But, it's the right thing to do to keep funding it....
Right?

:rofl:

[debatepro]

37. They are crossing the line... (Camp Clinton)

I have always maintained I will work for and support any democratic candidate for president... but today is the first day I actually considered not voting for her. I have donated countless hours to democratic campaigns over the last 15 years.

I have never even considered this possibility before. I am not saying I am going to do it... I would never vote for a republican... but they are getting close to losing my vote in the General Election.

[dempartisan23]

42. i agree

do we want to win or not?

[Midlodemocrat]

43. I don't think 'we' enters into it.

I certainly don't want 'your' side to win. That's for sure.

[rodeodance]

40. Press Release: Hillary on Beef Recall (2/17)--example of good Dem. policy.

Press Release: Hillary on Beef Recall (2/17)

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=604 ...


2/17/2008
Statement from Hillary Clinton

"The news today of the largest beef recall in our nation’s history is yet another troubling reminder that we have done too little to protect our food supply. This incident also reveals a danger to our children, since the Hallmark company is the second largest supplier to the U.S. School Lunch program. I believe that American families should not have to worry about the safety of the food on their dinner tables or in their children's school lunches. That is why I have long been calling for common-sense - and long-overdue - food safety reforms, building on my work in the Senate. As President, I will fully fund our food safety system so that our inspectors have the resources and manpower they need to do their jobs. I will create a single food safety agency to replace the patchwork of regulation we have now. I will implement an effective recall system so that potentially tainted food immediately comes off grocery store shelves and families receive instant notification. I will strictly enforce safety rules and impose stiff criminal and civil penalties on violators. And I will crack down on the slaughter of sick or injured cows, a practice which poses health risks to families and children. Now more than ever, America needs a President who will deliver concrete reforms that fill the gaps in our food safety system."

[LulaMay]

44. She truly means what she says. Thank you.

I think I have to get off here for awhile now. The last few things I've read have been so horrible, I need a break.

See you!

[rodeodance]

49. yes. go for a bit. --and thank you for your good work

[durrrty libby]

46. BO needs to go NOW. He is a Death Knell to the party

[Deja Q]

47. It's politics. She's thrown some punches and she's gotten hit too.

And, honestly, if I ended up crying, I'd stand up and sling anything I could find.

[rodeodance]

51. yes, it is the give and taken of the trail--too many du'ers get to up close and personal about too

much.

[XemaSab]

48. I beg to differ

I think the Clintons already 'bout destroyed the party in the 90's with their "triangulation" strategy.

[QC]

50. She ate my puppy! n/t

[cottonseed]

57. We have been forsaken.

Hear my words. There will be a 40 day mud. The Democratic party shall be wiped clean.

[eShirl]

58. "----- is destroying the democratic party" = poster gets added to my ignore list

and no I'm not pro Hillary

[mod mom]

59. I fear her and the DLC corporate Dems will attempt to sabotage the Obama presidency

We have to try to get rid of as many DLCers as possible with the next election. Look what they have done to the latest congress.

[DDQ]

60. It's people like you who are hurting the democratic party

Not Hillary Clinton

[casus belli]

62. Care to qualify that with a real comment?

Or are you siamese twins with your straw man?

I think the OP picked a poor choice of words, but the fundamental point holds true. We are dealing with a close race that could put either one of these people up as our nominee. To resort to swift boating style ad-hominem attacks which seek to undermine the credibility of the person, we're only weakening either or both of the candidates. That's not to say I don't think the debate process should be spirited, but saying something like "Obama used a sentence from someone else's speech- therefore his entire campaign is null and void because all he has are words" is absolutely dishonest and serves no purpose. Particularly since he was ASKED by the author of the quote to use it as a response to attacks thrown at him.

Let's be clear, I'd be saying the same about Obama if he came out and made such underhanded accusations against Hillary's character - it just shouldn't be a part of a primary of progressive thinkers.

[meow mix]

61. she'll cause a party crisis because she sees it as her property.

she doesnt care about the people

[PretzelWarrior]

63. Great post. and Kicked for OBAMA

[dempartisan23]

67. i hope everyone is for obama

[meow mix]

65. kick

x(

[harun]

66. A well thought out and reasoned post (K&R)

[robertpaulsen]

69. I think someone needs a hug. Let's pile on a group hug here!

:hug:

[NMMNG]

71. Piss off

[casus belli]

72. I don't think this is helping.

I'm an Obama supporter, but your assertions that Hillary is somehow going to destroy the entire party are just way off base.

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74. why do you hate democracy?