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Altec (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:24 PM Original message |
Barack Wants it Both Ways |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. He broke no rules in Florida. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. He ran TV ads in Florida before the vote. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. Those ads were NATIONAL |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. And he promised not to. That is the point. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. He should have done what all the other candidates did...not run ANY ads. He knew it was a National |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. He was trying to be sneaky and get around the rules. Didn't he know Florida was |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. His campign paid for commercials that were seen in Florida as well. |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. His campaign buys were not Florida only, |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. It was NOT allowable. And his campaign lied |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. Which national TV channel doesn't run in Florida? |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. No, my point is he *shouldn't" advertise where he pledged not to. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. He ran across the street and gave an interview to reporters. When |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. Speaking Of Hypocrisy |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. By asking the Superdelegates to vote with the will of the people is not breaking the rules... |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. but he's not consistent |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Let us know when he INSISTS on Kennedy, Reid and the others voting for HILLARY then... |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Massachusetts has 26 Super Delegates... |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. Please post a link that shows Obama asking the DNC to change the rules. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Ok Ill go first. Heres a link showing Hillary asking the DNC to change the rules. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Here's his threat: |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. "Make a strong argument" is a threat? |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. ABSOLUTELY it's a THREAT. If you don't vote for me, my voters won't vote in the GE. |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. This works both ways |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. So, this is your first Presidential election? |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. Did Biden, Richardson, Edwards, Gravel, Kucinich and Dodd release their tax returns? |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. If she releases her returns, everyone will nitpick them to F'ing death. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. If he gets the nod, I'll be sad about the future of the country but |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
9. Indeed |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. He has consistently been against the IWR since the beginning |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. and yet consistently votes to fund |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Please watch the video |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
11. He hasn't asked them to change the rules about superdelegates. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. 2025 is the number that reflects the clear will of the people. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. So if Hillary is up by 50 delegates and they give it to Obama |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Beg pardon! I don't know how you reach that conclusion based on |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. No, I didn't transpose the names. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. How about honoring the LONG STANDING RULE of letting the Super Delegates vote |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. horseshit |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
24. Hit Pieces Against Obama Are Working Wonders |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I especially like drive-by posts like this one. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
33. I just just love the newbie hit-and-run posts, and how so many jump right in |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
36. Please stop posting lies and propaganda. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Exactly and he threatened that they should do otherwise: |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I believe most Americans would want them to vote the way of the public vote. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. What IF |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. he told his voters to stay home if he's not the delegate?? link please |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. The popular vote doesn't count for much. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Also...if having everyone's vote counted is so important to Obama and his supporters |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Obama made that decision?? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
40. Actually, he said he was lying in 2004 when he said he didn't know how he'd have voted on the IWR. |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. right... but now he says he was lying about lying about not knowing |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
46. what a thoroughly illogical argument |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
47. supers don't have to 'vote in proportion to the people' |
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