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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:20 AM
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Barack Movement and Amy Winehouse
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 10:58 AM by Prefer
Young hipsters - it there a throwback to the early 60 kind of a movement going on?

I am just noticing the coicidence of things like Michelle Obama's 60s dress style look, Barack's clean shaven tighly cut 60's suit look and the Amy Weinhouse 60's Beehive hairdo and musical sound.

Are peole turing to the predrug progressiveness of the early 60s? I know Amy's junky tabloid business does not fit in, although you could consider Marylin, Elvis and Lenny were drug abusers before the hippy 60s.

So is it just a coincidence, or is there anything there?



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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:23 AM
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1. WTF?
I guess I'm not too up on the Amy Winehouse movement.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:37 AM
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4. Did you think it was just coincidence that was causing people to avoid rehab?
It's a movement!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:43 AM
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7. That's probably why all the school shootings are going on.
The Coincendental Obama/Winehouse/Lohan/Spears Movement (C/O/W/L/S)

I think I just connected the dots, and this guy is behind it all:



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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:47 AM
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10. He should grow a big mustache. Then he'll look the part.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:52 AM
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14. Is he secretly a muslim?
Shimon Khols
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:01 AM
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20. No. A good dictator needs a mustache. Simon would look like Stalin with one.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:02 AM
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22. Simonishef Kowolsky?
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:34 AM
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2. I kinda' doubt...
that having tattoos on a woman (or a man for that matter), that look like they belong on a drunken merchant marine or outlaw biker
have that retro 60's feeling.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:37 AM
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3. It's like some kind of b-52's on skid row thing.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:50 AM
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12. At least with celebrity drug users during the 60's...
it was a long slow decline.

Even then, none of them ever got this bad (except for maybe Keith Richards).

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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:38 AM
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5. i think anybody who likes amy winehouse is too young to vote, or too stupid
she's not really in the mainstream

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:45 AM
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9. Her lyrics suggest her fans are the latter...
And what, if to her fans, she is the mainstream?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:03 AM
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23. 'Back to Black' Is a Brilliant Album
That had the fortune to be made at a time when the groundwork was laid that would enable it to be a huge hit.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:35 AM
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25. i'll have to check it out.
most of what i know about amy winehouse is her drug addiction, and assumed her to be marketing driven and created. am i wrong or is she actually a real musician?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:13 PM
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28. I'd Say So
If she's not, and it's all due to the producer, it's still a great album. Sometimes, the marketers get it right - they'll push something because they know it's going to have appeal. I think the biggest reason it was a hit here is because people were ready for it. Nothing against Radiohead, but they're kind of hard to sing along to.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:47 PM
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32. Steven Hawking loves OK Computer
It's on heavy rotation on his Karaoke machine! :D
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:39 AM
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6. No, everything from the 60s is old politics.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:45 AM
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8. Mrs. Obama's sleeveless shirt has been off and on popular the last 40 years.
As for the hair; if it looks good, who bloody cares if it's from 1940? Some styles are just good.

Late-80s styles were not.

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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:48 AM
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11. And the Pearls with the sleeveless?
The checkered tweed?
Barack's skinny tie and dark suits?
His JFK hand movements?
Amy's "Diana Ross and the Supremes" style?

You think none of those related to early 60s?
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:52 AM
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13. What is the definition of a "young hipster"?
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 10:54 AM by balantz
And what kind of a movement does the platform of young Ms. Winehouse represent? Is she fighting poverty? Inequality? I'm not up on her political platform.

If we're just talking costume here, no, I don't see a lot of resemblance to the early sixties with her. I can see a little of the copying in the Obama's style of costume though.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:56 AM
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16. Young Hipster is someone from 16 to 26 who is versed in popular culture
Platfom for Ms Winehouse? She is not a politician, but she is the most popular news star in the media buzz. She is in the Daily Mail almost every day. She has (in the current pop context) a new style that is a throwback to the early 60s with backup singer for call and response type format. She has a behive hairdo, which fits the musical era she pays home to hin her music.

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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:56 AM
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17. It means after replacements, my hips are less than three years old.
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 10:57 AM by faygokid
That would be my guess, anyway. If anybody is a "young hipster," it's me.

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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:54 AM
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15. Amy Winehouse is proof positive that...
...there really are trailer-parks in the UK.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:01 AM
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21. Pictures of Hipsters
hipsters are young, smart, and anti-establishment. they are progressive






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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:38 AM
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27. Hipsters suck
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:36 PM
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30. They tend to be trustafarian narcissists. They are "progressive" only to the extent that
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 12:39 PM by smalll
regular, real Americans see them as such, which gives those average voters just another "reason" to vote against Democrats. Oh, and they're "anti-establishment?" It is to laugh. In today's youth-focused, wealth-focused, hype-driven world, they pretty much ARE the establishment.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:30 PM
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33. "regular, real americans"
What a load of horseshit you are shovelling.
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rolleitreks Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:31 PM
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29. You do know, LS, that she sports a "Hello Sailor" tattoo on her belly? n/t
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:45 PM
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31. Oh, I'm sure she does....
...I'm sure Sailors would just love them some Amy Winehouse. To quote the song, "I like my women just a little on the trashy side."
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:56 AM
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18. '60s R & B Never Went Out of Style in the UK
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 10:59 AM by Crisco
English musicians eat drink sleep and poop American soul music. It's only in the last 3-4 years that US audiences have been increasingly been treated to what's been going on in the UK, while some US singer-songwriters (Donovan Frankenreiter, Ray LaMontagne) have been putting down the granola and picking up some greens. Meanwhile, also in the last 3-5 years, "old school" R & B has re-emerged with the likes of Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings (who recorded with Amy) and others.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:01 AM
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19. Consider Michael Bolton
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 11:01 AM by Prefer
He did the throwback, but he brought it forward to a modern context. Same for the horrible atrocities committed against music recently by Michael McDonald. But neither of them DRESSED like the time they were redoing... Amy is the first one I have seen where they actually went and dessed like the style of the time of the music they were doing - the whole band.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:14 AM
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24. No, Thanks
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 11:25 AM by Crisco
I'm considering James Hunter, Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings - who were the band that recorded Back to Black w/Amy, The Dynamites

There are plenty more but the bottom line is that old-style R & B has had a great resurgence in recent years. Some people are tired of rap. Some people are tired of rock. Many people want high-energy songs they can sing along and have a good time to, and R & B fills that need.

While Micheals Bolton & McDonald and Marc Cohn were spitting out soul on valium, the UK offered Simply Red, Dr. Robert, and a shitload of other R & B bands most Americans have never heard of.



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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:37 AM
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26. Winehouse is definitely throwback...

...to the 60s. Love that style - hope she gets off the drugs though.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:57 PM
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34. It means that American culture really did peak in the 90's
We've had a downward progression ever since - Bush gave us the 70's and 80's back, and now we're headed to the 60's. Fantastic.
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