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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:14 PM Original message |
CNN : HRC making major changes in Campaign Tactics - no longer hosting large rallies |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. It is a move of desperation because they do not have the campaign organization and money to compete |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. well technichally speaking she will be ready on day one |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Okay. I officially laughed out loud at this. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. lol |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. LOL, OMG, FUNNY . . .. .. " its not day one yet" |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Day zero? Minus one? |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
78. ready one day, just not today |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Probably can't afford to keep renting out the large venues. lol |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I worry about Sen Obama renting those large venues |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Flailing -- with authority |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yes, Hillary and her supporters... |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm sure they think it will make her look more personable and caring about people's issues. |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Hillary Huckabee? hmmmmmmmm |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Bush campaign did this in 2004with heavily vetted small crowds. Difference for him is that |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Bush also only had to "win" a couple states. |
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Moh96 (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Exactly, and.. |
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ericgtr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
81. Not a bad tactic |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. Because she's at her worst when she has to project her voice to |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. you may be right it may be a factor in addition to the ones listed above |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
70. That was my first thought. She is actually losing votes with those big rallies nt |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. I just don't see the practicality in it |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Exactly. This is a mid-west thing, and will not work in a state the size of Texas |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. She needs "Texas sized" rallies. |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
14. The 137 folks who comitted to Midland will be pissed |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
15. Act of desperation, and Wisconsin is an open primary so Obama has the advantage |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. "I think the deck chairs should be a little further from that wall...." |
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MindMatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
61. New draperies |
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DUyellow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
16. come on people... this is the real reason... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. thanks for your thoughtful post. |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
59. Very thoughtful |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
18. She's playing small venues for the same reason Captain & Tenille play small venues. |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:33 AM Response to Reply #18 |
51. Hillary was clairvoyant about this: |
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RememberWellstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. It's tactical |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
20. I don't know how you can campaign in Texas and Ohio without "mass communicatin' " |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
25. Very smart. Let Obama be the rockstar, she'll be the friend. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. drawback: she has a history of planting questions. If these are TOO airbrushed it could become |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
55. And staged acts |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Do you have |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I saw it with my own eyes |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. No offense to your eyes |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 03:41 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. it was widely reported after a college student mentioned that she had |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. planting questions |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
28. This is becoming tragic. They need to pull the plug. They can not put a good face on this. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. Their ship is sinking. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
74. and they don't care if they sink other democrats with them |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
32. she is not running for high priest nt |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
34. Desperation move for sure |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
35. She wants and needs total control of the audience, for tight TV shots. |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. How Bush-ian. |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
36. Hillary has always been at her best when "working the room" |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Perhaps they spent all the money on the fireworks or whatever the hell that was |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:35 AM Response to Reply #37 |
52. Or on that perfectly nauseating music video I caught on YouTube |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
71. Bill was the best working a room Hillary still hasn't found her best formula |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
38. k and r |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
39. That's because she can't DRAW large rallies....DUH |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. More people from Boise got out of bed at 5 AM to hear Obama than the people in El Paso last week |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:16 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. new polls in el paso shows that el paso may not count |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. LOL |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. HA! |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
41. Give and take with real people, talking about real issues. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
42. She has to clearly show the differences between her and Obama |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Now that she can pull enough people to fill out a small hall. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
43. It's too late to hold tea parties while Obama is drawing crowds bigger than rock concerts. |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
44. She needs the money |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
46. Sounds like a disaster. Unless her plan is to bore the electorate to death |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
47. No one forgoes large rallies unless they have to. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 04:37 AM Response to Original message |
53. Can't speak to the Clinton campaign's cash sums, but the weather in |
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corkhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
54. reminds me of Spinal Tap |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
56. Hillary will soon be going the town hall meetings route... |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
57. She's broke and tired. Can't compete on the same level as Obama. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
58. Is she trying to tone down the excitement? |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
60. Translation: She's tired of hearing chirping crickets... |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
62. He's still doing small venues, too, though - he's doing town halls, etc. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
63. After last night's speech I see it as an opportunity for her to try the "feel our pain".. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. It actually could be a good move - if the people are not hand picked and the |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
68. This would have been fine in the early states, but not now in large media markets |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
75. Potemkin Villages downsized, eh? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. easier to find the one with the planted question |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Yeah, "where's the plant" does get easier, huh? |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
77. She cannot have large rallies, physically impossible |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
80. But she has a hammerlock on small high schools now. n/t |
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