Will the hatred of your primary opponants carry on after the nomination?

[Prefer]

I think we will all come together behind who ever is chosen as the noiminee, but:

Will you remember the screen names of the DUers who argued against your candidate? Will you still be mad at them after the presidential election?

If you have any on Ignore, will you take them off the ignore list?

[Angela Shelley]

1. The ignore list is not only for trolls,

but also for ignorant people.

After the elections, the trolls will leave DU and I will give the ignorant people a second chance.

[Evergreen Emerald]

16. I have not put anyone on ignore--but I will grant you

DU certainly is showing the ignorant side of late.

[terrya]

2. I'm pessimistic about it right now

[Honeycombe8]

3. I don't hate the Clintons. I have maintained for awhile that I will not vote for them....

and I will maintain that position. There are solid, valid reasons that I am not in her corner. That will not change, even if she is chosen by others to be the nominee.

[Evergreen Emerald]

19. I know how you feel. I feel that way about Obama

He is so divisive and has run the ugliest campaign in my history. The racism thing was so over the top, that I don't know how I could vote for him.

But, I think of the bigger picture, and the good of America is to have a democrat in the White house for the Supreme Court, for the Constitution.

[MonkeyFunk]

42. You can only vote for one person for President.

[Renew Deal]

4. People usually come together.

I still remember some of the Clark, Dean, Kerry people from 2004. Let's pray we don't have to do this again in 2012. Everyone will probably forget by 2016, if there is a DU.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

5. a lot of damage has been done by Obama supporters its gonna be a hard swallow

[Carolina]

6. spare me

as if Team Hillary is so innocent. Sheesh!

[burythehatchet]

12. While the attacks and smears are expected, its the faux outrage and

hypocrisy is what irritates more than anything else.

[NMMNG]

55. It's the dismissal of other peoples' genuine anger as "faux outrage"

while considering their own the end of the world that irritates me more than anything else.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

28. take note of your O buddies below

[Cha]

46. That's the thing about

"team hilary"..they're just like their leader. All fulla a hypocricy and venom.

[Auntie Bush]

60. If you remember in the beginning this place was filled with nothing

but hateful posts about Hillary. Hillary supporters didn't post hateful things about Obama. Later the Hill lovers just got fed up and started posting nasty things about Obama...tit for tat. In fact I became a Hillary supporter due to repeatedly having to defend her from all the disgusting attacks on her and Bill Clinton. Many people posted here saying the same thing. The Obamites finally realized they were doing more harm than good so they finally calmed down on the hateful posts...but the damage was already done and too many of them didn't heed the request to stop the hateful Hillary posts. There is no doubt who started this feud.

[Evergreen Emerald]

20. that is how I feel

but it will effect my participation on DU, not in voting.

[enough already]

34. Yeah, imagine the nerve of the guy to interrupt the coronation

Spare me your angst.

[Jamastiene]

51. That's why I decided to start spitting them out...

to my Ignore List.

[Libby2]

7. I don't hate the opponents.

It's the jerk supporters. I don't hate them either, some are quite amusing.

Bush? Him I hate.

[my3boyz]

8. Yes. The Clintons have changed how I will feel about them forever.

I honestly can't believe I fought for Bill the way I did in the past. Now I realize I was blinded by his charm. I have never cared for Hillary (she seemed cold and calculating) but I absolutely LOVED Bill! I can honestly say I will never look at him the same way again. :( As an African American, I can't forgive the way he used race in this election.

[Hepburn]

11. My feelings exactly...

...and this is coming from an elderly white female.

:hi:

[bellasgrams]

15. Bill did not use race in this election. Your idol BO has you

blinded to the truth. Clinton said Jessie Jackson won SC, that is not using race. It's a fact, and what's wrong with it? JJ and Bill have been friends for years. Have you heard JJ or Sharpton say anything negative about the Clintons? NO. BO is just trying to poison your mind. Bill nor Hillary have ever used race as a negative you surely know that. They have been friends of blacks and all people in the lower and middle income class. BO's nose is so high, he just thinks about himself.

[Occam Bandage]

17. South Carolina disagreed with your assessment.

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. Of course they did! They didn't learn the TRUTH until the fucking election was over. How did the

Clintons play the race card in SC? I can't wait to hear this one....:eyes:

[Occam Bandage]

30. Ah, yes. Everyone was duped but you brave Clinton supporters.

I don't know how you guys manage to keep up the good fight against the dominant Obama machine.

[Evergreen Emerald]

33. you mean the propaganda machine? When did you start believing the media?

You are sleeping with the enemy. Remember a time when we all agreed that it is bad for democracy to have propaganda for media rather than the truth?

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. The dominant Obama machine?

Bwahahahahaha!:rofl::rofl::rofl:: Funniest thing I've read in DAYS!:rofl:

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. In addition to your GREAT post...Kendrick Meek (D from FL) was with Bill Clinton that day and said

Bill was being interviewed by a "journalist" (I use that word loosely!) and was asked SPECIFICALLY to comment on the "HISTORICAL" past elections in SC. THAT is what Bill Clinton was responding to. He didn't make that comment just to be making it! I saw the Kendrick Meek interview on CNN (?).

The whole "racist card" in SC was total bullshit made up by the Obama camp and his adoring MSM. We also know the Obama camp and his adoring MSM clipped the "faerie tale" video and left out the most important part to make it seem like Bill was saying the Obama "Presidency" is a "faerie tale", when the TRUTH is, he was commenting on Obama's Iraq War stance and his funding the invasion after getting to the Senate. The entire SWIFTBOATING of the Clintons was part of Obama's agenda in SC. He had to turn the AAs against the Clintons or he wouldn't win the state.

[NorthernSpy]

39. Barack Obama is "trying to poison" black folks' minds?

Isn't that what warring parents embroiled in custody disputes accuse each other of doing to the children?


Black voters are adults, bellasgrams. They make up their own minds based on the totality of what they've seen and heard, and on reason.

[Moochy]

64. Thanks for reframing that post

Another patronizing hymn by the "No You Can't" choir.

[butterfly77]

53. And the media took this lie and ran away with it...

[Evergreen Emerald]

22. "cold and calculating"--very sexist.

I can't forgive Obama for using racism to divide us. I cannot forgive him for shouting racism from the rooftops to solidify the SC votes.

[Jamastiene]

54. And I cannot forgive him for McClurkin and his anti-gay stance. n/t

[butterfly77]

52. Seems as though you are being blinded again...

You believe what you do about Hillary because the media has beaten it into your head for years...

[Hepburn]

9. a lot of damage has been done by Clinton supporters its gonna be a hard swallow

I used to love to come to the DU and until lately, I never had to put people on IGNORE on a daily basis.

IMO, the Clinton groupies have engendered a lot of hard feelings on the DU. Hopefully after she loses the nomination, they will take it down several notches.

BTW: I was an Edwards supporter.

[Strelnikov_]

14. Agree

I do not 'hate' Clinton by any stretch, any more than I 'hate' Bayh, the Nelson's, Breaux, Landrieu and Lieberman (prior to Fall '06 meltdown) etc.

Prior to having the Clinton supporter 'experience' (as M$ would call it) during this primary season, I could have gotten moderately enthusiastic about a Clinton presidency. Now, I look forward to it with just slightly less dread than a McCain presidency. I will vote for her in November, because politics is not a form of personal expression, but a pragmatic act.


Not that she has any chance to beat McCain anyway, at 49% negatives even before the campaign starts, which was my original reason for casting about for a more viable candidate come November.

[sueragingroz]

10. I believe that the freepers that are hanging out here will wander away from DU after the nomination

Or they'll come back under pro-McCain guises to further their cause of keeping the Dems out of power...

[LWolf]

13. I only have one DUer on ignore;

put there months ago when it showed up with an obvious agenda to spread propaganda. I don't run into many threads with an "ignore" post, which is probably a good thing. I'll leave it on ignore.

I hide more threads than DUers, and those are archived after a time, anyway.

There are many people that I vehemently disagree with, and occasionally do battle with; most of the time I "ignore" them by skipping their threads and posts.

I already "talk" to those same people in non-campaign related threads; disagreeing with their political choices is not the same thing as hating them or not respecting them as fellow humans.

It's a good thing, I guess, that I feel this way, since I vehemently disagree with most of DU AND the Democratic Party at this point, thinking that the party has chosen to throw votes and support behind the 2 worst candidates that were on the table.

I resent having my table made barer before I ever got to sit down at it. I hold Democratic voters accountable for that. That doesn't mean I "hate" them. I don't hate my republican neighbors, either.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

26. Well put

I agree with your sentiments, especially about the candidates that are still in the race and about not hating anyone.

What I've decided to do is direct my money and energy to electing progressive Democrats to Congress. Kucinich is first on the list: I donated to him again today. Next will be other progressive nominees-I believe DFA is good at pointing them out. If you know of any other links to progressive candidates running in primaries, kindly let me know.

[LWolf]

41. This is the best plan,

and DK is at the top of my list. I've been feeling some concern, because finances are tight enough at my place to be worried about having enough gas to get back and forth to work. I haven't been able to send any $$ to him since he dropped out.

It's not that I think my small contribution will make him or break him, but that every concrete action generates energy for more.

Locally, we've heard almost nothing about primaries, even though we have a republican senator vulnerable in November. I think my second area of focus would be the challenger/s to Pelosi. Besides Sheehan, there is also a Democratic challenger who can be supported in the real world AND on DU, lol. You probably already caught this in the DU video forum, but if not:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/30978

Those two, plus my local races, will do it for me. My local state rep may be running for state treasurer. He's vulnerable in my red area, because he supported civil unions, and because in '06 he left the republican party and became a democrat. I'd like to replace him, if necessary, with a progressive state rep. Of course, replacing the senator is key. All three of those running in the Democratic primary would be better than he; of those three, I'll support the most progressive. I'm leaning toward Candy Neville, but will spend more time getting to know all of them before making a decision.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

45. Only reason I can donate now

is that my mom sent me some money for my birthday (which makes me sound like I'm 17 and not 57--but Mom will be Mom). I decided to use it to help progressives. Thanks for the link and ideas!

[LWolf]

47. I'm 47, and my mom

bought me a chainsaw and a wood splitter for xmas so we would have enough wood to heat the place until spring. ;)

Yours is a great way to keep a gift giving. :hi:

[Seabiscuit]

18. "hatred"??? I just want Obama to go away. This Obamanation stuff is like a bad dream.

And I for one want to wake up to a peaceful new day.

[Sapphocrat]

23. I've been told too many times...

...I'm too old, too white, too uneducated, and too full of "faux outrage" to be relevant anymore. You don't get that pounded into your head repeatedly and just forget it overnight.

Besides, I'm gone once once Obama gets the nomination. Back to real life and causes where I count. :)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

31. spot on !

[ronnykmarshall]

36. And told: "To hell with Hillary and her supporters"

Another gem was "I question Clinton supporters sanity, no I really do".

All I can say if Obama gets the nomination and wins .... "Glad Bush is gone".

[NMMNG]

56. You must be traveling in the same circles I am

It's so sad that people who should want to advertise for their candidate feel the need to abuse others instead.

[Sapphocrat]

59. You ever read what Chris Hedges wrote about group identity? n/t

[NMMNG]

61. Yes

:scared: :yoiks: :hide:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

24. If you are talking about DUers,

I don't remember the names of the DUers I've put on ignore now--and they are all there because of things said about the primaries. I'll take them off when a nominee is chosen.

As for the nominees--well, since I don't really like either of the remaining candidates, what I intend to concentrate on is helping progressive Democrats be elected to Congress. A lot of folks forget that a couple of bucks thrown the way of a Congressional hopeful are needed just as much (if not more) than money to a Presidential candidate. I'll vote for the Dem at the top of the ticket, but I'll donate and work for Democrats farther down the ballot. To me this makes sense, and goes along with my principles of progressive liberalism.

[WYObama]

25. No way!

Because Obama's primary opponents will all be irrelevant by then.

[thevoiceofreason]

29. I, a raving Obama fan, will support Hillary to the death if she's chosen

[davsand]

32. I had opinions about candidates going into the Primary. Some changed others did not.

I doubt that I'll hold any residual anger for most of the people I disagree with on this Primary, but there is a handful that has really shown their ass. I expect that will be kind of like like when you drive away from a family gathering with especially obnoxious family members--you make sure that you send a a Christmas card next year.

So, in advance, to some of you: Happy Holidays!

:hi:



Laura

[Stephanie]

37. Opposing someone's candidacy is not HATRED.

It's just ridiculous that you can't have a PREFERNCE in this primary without being accused of HATRED by the opposition. I've never seen anything like it.

[MonkeyFunk]

44. It's hard to deny that SOME people

here really hate some candidates. They'll spread any lie, smear or innuendo that they can find. They use nasty, denigrating terms for the candidate and supporters of the candidate. They manufacture outrage, threaten not to vote in the GE, and otherwise throw hateful little tantrums.

[Beregond2]

38. Hatred...

I don't hate any of the candidates, so I can't relate. And I don't even know what the "Ignore List" is.

[QC]

40. I will find it hard to forgive Obama's "movement"

for turning Democratic Underground into Free Republic.

[UALRBSofL]

43. Prefer, I wont have hatred toward Obama if he is the nominee

I'll be disappointed but I'll support him and even caucus for him in florida. Thing is, I'm a minority here where I live in florida. It's mostly a republican area where I live.

That said, I'm not worried, Hillary is going to win. :)

[NoPasaran]

48. I expect that half of the people on my Ignore List

Will go away after the primaries, their work to disrupt this board and incite conflict done.

[Jamastiene]

49. Unforgivable.

Q: Will you remember the screen names of the DUers who argued against your candidate?

A: Yes, especially the ones I am 99% sure are Republican operatives trolling DU.

Q: Will you still be mad at them after the presidential election?

A: Yes, because they will still be homophobic, sexist assholes then too.

Q: If you have any on Ignore, will you take them off the ignore list?

A: No. The majority of the people on my Ignore List through the years eventually end up tombstoned because they were fucking trolls to begin with. I can smell a troll a mile away. My Ignore List is epic in proportion at this point. This primary season has been the worst I have ever seen it on DU. I complain and alert the rampant homophobia here, but I honestly pity the mods who have to wade through the muck that is GD: P this primary season. If I could afford it, I would send each of them a case of Excedrin.

[OzarkDem]

50. If he continues to destroy chances for health care reform

probably so.

[New Dawn]

57. Here is why I'll always hate the Clintons:

* NAFTA
* Welfare Deform
* Telecommunications Act of 1996
* "Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act" of 1996
* The murderous sanctions against Iraq that killed at least 500,000 Iraqis (mostly children)
* The criminal bombing campaigns against Iraq, Yugoslavia and Sudan
* Hillary Clinton's vote to authorize Bush's illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq that has killed over one million Iraqis and has displaced millions more.

[Solon]

58. I will always remember the homophobes that have come out of the woodwork quite recently...

Many long time DUers, and I'll not bother being polite to them.

[NMMNG]

62. Thank you

And I second that.

[Rowdyboy]

63. I hate no-one. I don't use ignore. For some reason I really like you guys!

Oh well.........

[Rowdyboy]

65. I have NEVER hated any serious candidate for the Democratic nomination

since George Wallace. Anyone stupid enough to hate Hillary or Barack deserves only pity.

[TayTay]

66. I don't hate any of the candidates.

I have chosen a candidate whom I agree with on the issues and who I think will be the right leader for this country. That is not hatred, it is a choice. It is beyond sad that so many people think that making a commitment to one Democrat over another is hatred.

How very sad.

[fortyfeetunder]

67. DU - That's Entertainment

I don't get upset over posts and I don't have anyone on ignore, maybe I am not interacting enough with the folks here. This is entertainment....