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spongebobsquareshirt Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:22 AM
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Curiously common occurrence: 1-) woman faints 2-) Obama pauses speech to ask for help
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 12:47 AM by spongebobsquareshirt
Today a Connecticut radio host show host cites several instances of an occurrence that has become common during Obama events.

1-) Woman faints
2-) Obama pauses his speech to speak about fainting woman.

The Wall Street Journal speculates that this may be a staged act (sort of like the staged R
udy phone calls from Judy Nathan or the embarrassing "plant" on Hillary's events.

Montecito, Calif., Sept. 8, 2007. "A woman standing in front of the stage appeared to faint as Obama spoke about Iraq," the Associated Press reported. "The candidate paused and asked the crowd to make way for firefighters. One supporter shouted, 'You're a good man,' leaving Obama momentarily at a loss for words. 'Well, I'm not the only one stopping to help her,' he said, sounding almost embarrassed."

Madison, Wis., Oct. 22, 2007. "This excitement mirrored the aura in the room that grew throughout his speech," reported WISN-TV. "Before the senator arrived, students were tossing around an inflatable cow above the crowd. Three people fainted in the midst of all the enthusiasm."

Hanover, N.H., Jan. 8, 2008. "Barack Obama's first and only rally on election day came to a sudden and lengthy stop when a young woman in the Dartmouth College gym fainted, and was eventually rolled off on a gurney by emergency medical technicians," the Los Angeles Times reported. "At first Obama half-narrated the episode, saying soothing things like, 'She's OK,' 'She's talking.' But the longer she lay on the floor, the quieter Obama got, standing on the podium, arms folded, looking worried as the medical crew worked." Minneapolis's WCCO-TV has video showing Obama handing a bottle of water to the Dartmouth damsel in distress.

Hartford, Conn., Feb. 4, 2008. "And when a woman appeared to faint in the standing-only VIP section in front of the podium, Obama paused his speech for over a minute as he directed the crowd to make way for an EMT team and tossed a bottle of water from the stage," reported the Yale Daily News.

Seattle, Feb. 8, 2008. "Climate change, the Iraq war and Obama tossing a bottle of water to a woman about to faint all received big cheers," MSNBC.com reported. "As Obama told the crowd to part so that the woman in question could leave and called for help, a young girl in the crowd shouted out, 'What a man!' The audience roared with laughter (although the press that has seen this happen before rolled its eyes)."


What exactly are we to make of this? A cynic might wonder if the whole thing isn't staged, given how often it happens and how well-honed and self-serving Obama's standard response seems to be...


See video of one of these fainting instances in New Hampshire here:


Rest of WSJ story.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:24 AM
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1. Bullshit, its happened to Bill Clinton too.
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spongebobsquareshirt Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:25 AM
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6. Cool, how many times and where?
Please give me us the link so we can check if there's a pattern of Clinton doing this too.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:27 AM
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10. I saw it on MSNBC, and no, I dont know how many times.
But I was at one of these rallies in Madison where three people passed out, and I saw them being taken out. They were no plants.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:29 AM
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16. Clinton gets weepy. But that's different.
When Hillary does it, it's the coldly manipulative ruse of a woman who "will do anything to win".

When Obama does it, it's a deeply authentic and spontaneous expression of his principled humanity.

--p!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:50 AM
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92. You're right. I think they're both getting swift-boated.
Something about Americans that just love to find the smallest things to tear down people. It's easier than actually having to debate the issues.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:34 AM
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27. Interesting post for someone that just joined DU... uhhhh what a day ago? n/t
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:40 AM
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39. Joined today, February 14.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #39
60. His profile says 2/15, & he has 15 posts in about 2 hours.
He's a player! Ya know what I mean, Verne?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:14 AM
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95. What happened to the minimum post count before you could start a post?
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 06:17 AM by JTFrog
I know he won't tell us what it is, but it's obviously not high enough.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:21 AM
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97. meant to reply to OP. n/t
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 06:22 AM by JTFrog




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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:57 AM
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48. What is unusual about that logical question?
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #27
64. The story is on the Wall Street Journal
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:43 AM
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81. No, his WSJ link is bogus and takes you to a Verizon page
with the message, "Sorry, "www.online.wsj.com " does not exist or is not available.
click on his first link and you'll see he quotes verbatim from some radio talkshow hack bragging how they searched DU to come up with examples of people fainting and then made their own cynical conclusions.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:44 AM
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83. Link
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #83
85. Typical sloppy Clinton campaign work - gave the OP the wrong link
Are you working with him? Why not let him make his own correction?
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spongebobsquareshirt Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:11 AM
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94. Here's the link to the Wall Street Journal article
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best /

If you don't see the article, google "We shall be overcome", which is the title fo the articled, written by columnist James Taranto on February 14th, for the Wall Street Journal. Or find it in the WSJ archives.
I must have typed the wrong link originally.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 AM
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Here for starters
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #6
108. Sorry you couldn't stay with us longer!
:rofl:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:23 AM
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saw those during his campaigns. Kerry too.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:24 AM
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2. Slime.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:24 AM
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3. Dumb-assed theory there, spongebob
You're off to a slow start.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:24 AM
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4. Beatlemania! n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:25 AM
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5. It's happened to Hillary too, and even John Kerry
It's a crime that people get paid to write this shit.
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spongebobsquareshirt Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:26 AM
Response to Reply #5
8. With Hillary and Kerry, was it a pattern? Links?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:33 AM
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24. I personally saw it on CSpan
at least 5 separate times. One in particular was with Vanessa on stage, in PA. She's his daughter, a doctor. She ran off stage to help the person. I also personally saw someone, on CSpan, at one of Hillary's events being taken out on a stretcher.

This happens at large events. That's why they have paramedics on scene.

Where did Hillary speak today? Pictures? Endorsements? Farts? Anything would be better than this sheer stupidity.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #24
54. Vanessa Kerry's not a doctor
She's a student. Currently, she's studying health policy, but she plans to finish her medical education.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:17 AM
Response to Reply #54
61. She's doing part of her residency
at a hospital in Rwanda.

http://focus.hms.harvard.edu/2007/051807/bulletin.shtml

You would really rather pick this nit than the stupidity of the WSJ article?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #61
67. It's not nitpicking...
One either is an MD or is not. I was just gently correcting a factual error. No need to get defensive about it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:33 AM
Response to Reply #67
74. Residents are routinely referred to as doctors
So excuuusse me. :eyes:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #74
75. Was she a resident 4 years ago?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #75
80. Did I say she was?
"She's his daughter, a doctor."

I don't know when she did her internship, etc.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:26 AM
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9. "and even John Kerry" that was unintentionally very funny.
Love the guy, but :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:27 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. Did Mondale or Dukakis ever inspire fainting?
Somehow I don't find it hard to imagine people being unconscious at their events.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:29 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. .....
:rofl:


Long time, no see!

:hi:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #15
29. Hey! Great seeing you! n/t
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:41 AM
Response to Reply #13
102. Actually, audience members had to revive those candidates once or twice. /nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:50 AM
Response to Reply #102
103. LOL! n/t
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #5
66. I think he just posts whatever material he's emailed by his employer.
nt
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:26 AM
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7. Or like Clinton's crying. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #7
33. don't you have any sensitivity as to how rude your mocking of this incident is?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #33
46. You mean "incidentS." All three of them, on days before
important votes.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:27 AM
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11. DON'T TAZE ME BRO!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:27 AM
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12. try standing around in a crowd for an hour, many ppl have problems
doing it. and this happens quite often..

gee its so hard to believe he would worry about someone? wtf. some people need to get a grip
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #12
69. Yep. In Seattle, people had waited in the rain for hours, without lunch.
The fervor had reached such a pitch that people were pounding on the doors at the KeyArena when it reached capacity.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #12
70. Very often
This post is just dumb.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:27 AM
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14. When you're speaking to tens of thousands of people, it's not a surprise if one faints. WSJ sucks.
This isn't news.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:29 AM
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17. MMG --- Faintgate!
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #17
22. Why don't they hand out water?
I know the rallies I went to there were pallets filled with cases of water they handed out
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:30 AM
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18. Why do so many new DUers join, and then as soon as they can start a thread...
post this kind of BS.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #18
25. Uh
Spongebobsquare...shirt?

Gotta be a Red-eye laughtracker.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #18
41. so you all can jump on the bandwagon and diss the OP.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:46 AM
Response to Reply #41
45. Can you please put me on ignore already...I beg you.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:31 AM
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19. Do you have any idea how hot those rallies are?
After waiting 4+ hours with no food or water, 10,000+ people, hot lights...I've been there, it's brutal.
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spongebobsquareshirt Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #19
23. That's not the weird part. It's Obama always being able to spot the fainted person
He has an uncanny ability to spot a fainted person in a super crowded place.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #23
28. Generally when a person collapses there is a bit of a commotion.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 AM
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32. First, most of these people are in the front, meaning they've been there the longest
They are standing and easiest to spot because they are in the front. And second, its not that hard to spot somebody going to down, because it usually causes a little bit of an issue with the people around them asking if they need help. So when he sees people turning around and going to the floor, it shouldnt be that hard to understand whats going on.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #23
35. I have that uncanny ability too...it's called look for a group of EMTs pushing their way thru n/t
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #23
37. And your point to that being? I am hearing you say that my Obama is great...
I'll take it at that and move on, cause he is...
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:08 AM
Response to Reply #23
56. To me he's always seemed very aware of his surroundings
He's a politician. It's his job to interact with people. So it may be a combination his history of working with large groups and maybe some natural ability.

His wife also seemed good at quickly picking up on reactions from the crowd when she mispronounced Nevada.

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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:29 AM
Response to Reply #56
72. Yep. He notices a kid precariously balanced in this video
and stops during his speech to ask him to get down so he won't fall:


Barack Obama in Seattle Feb 8th, 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMHLI7ypeLQ
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #19
38.  Madison, Wis., Oct. 22, 2007. NOT hot in Madison, WI
Madison, Wis., Oct. 22, 2007. "This excitement mirrored the aura in the room that grew throughout his speech," reported WISN-TV.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #38
42. He spoke here on October 15th, and it was damn hot in that room.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:31 AM
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20. it's something that happens often at these type of events
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:31 AM
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21. When people start talking in bi-lingual tounges and their head start to spin around- let's regroup.
For now, this seems like someone's intense desire to spin his campaign speeches into mystical events rather then political gatherings. I can't help but wonder if this isn't part of the same messaging we've been barraged with about Obama becoming a cult. If he can be viewed as being "over the top"- or someone devolping a "cult like" presense, Hillary will look far more grounded and balanced.

I'm not sure what's going on but just throwing it out there.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:34 AM
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26. I know the girl in hartford, I was standing 5 people over and it wasn't a VIP section
it was on the floor and the floor was open. I know for a fact that the girl had nothing to do with the Obama campaign (at that point in time she became a volunteer the next day and spent all of super Tuesday walking for Obama.)

There was a huge crowd and on the floor we were packed in their pretty tight, I wouldn't be surprised if there are similar situations elsewhere considering that the conditions (shit tons of people packed together in the middle of winter dressed to stay warm and becoming over heated.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 AM
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30. Wow. Great detective work there.
Maybe next you can debunk whether Beatle-mania was all just a clever marketing hoax.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 AM
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31. Having been at political rallies, it gets hot and stuffy and for many people that
can do them in.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:36 AM
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34. Interesting post for someone that just joined DU... uhhhh what a day ago? n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #34
40. Well Hillary has reshuffled and hired new "On-line" staff.......
and there were a lot of Tombstones given out a couple of days ago.

So, you know......
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #40
49. Just because Obama has paid staffers doing his work on the netroots doesn't mean others do
Has Obama cut back on his budget since the main mission of his netroots staff was accomplished? Do they fire such folks or give them another role in the campaign?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:32 AM
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73. He doesn't need staffers.......
that's the beauty of Obama.

Folks will support him for free.

It is Hillary's propanganda that needs to be propped up with dollars.

The woman was never popular on DU till January of this year.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #34
47. They must be proud to be posting here.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:20 AM
Response to Reply #34
63. Nope, just 2 hours before this post. I think he got it from HQ
I mean with a video link and all.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #63
68. He got it from The Wall Street Journal
Jesus, doesn't anyone actually read posts anymore, or are knee jerk reactions the standard now?
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #68
76. No, he got it from his first link, which was not to the WSJ, and dissed DU.
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 01:49 AM by Divernan
"Tuesday, February 12, 2008
Oh Obamaaaaaa! (Insert Fainting Now)
Update: Coincidence?: Our morning show host Ray Dunaway pointed this out after sifting through DU. A little research and this is what I came up with. Coincidence? The Obama version of "crying"? Or am I just cynical (hard not to be these days)? There seems to be a trend at Obama rallies ... women fainting. And interestingly enough the Senator responds the same way every time, almost as if ... naah, couldn't be."
It appears people at this site sift through DU looking for ways to ridicule DU posters.
He had yet another link, not the WSJ, for the video.

The link which his post says is to the WSJ, actually takes you to a Verizon page saying no such link exists, but offering online subscriptions to the WSJ.

I'd say you're the one who didn't check out the links in the OP, and had a knee jerk reaction.

Suckah!

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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:38 AM
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78. Here's the link
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:55 AM
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86. I repeat, typical sloppy Clinton campaign work-gave theOP the wrong link
And I repeat, why are you cleaning up after him? Are you sharing this shift with him? Maybe he's your intern?
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:00 AM
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87. Oh please.
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spongebobsquareshirt Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:04 AM
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93. I got the link from the Wall Street Journal
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 06:13 AM by spongebobsquareshirt
Obviously, since it was the WSJ that cited the original source, and it would have been misleading for me to say "The WSJ has reported that..." instead of giving that other website credit in the first place, which is what I did.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best /

or google "We shall be overcome" which is the title of the piece. Written by James Taranto.

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:50 PM
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109. Yes as opposed to the Obama supporter with 2200 posts in 8 days.
:eyes:
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:38 AM
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36. I am surprised MORE people don't have problems
Obama appeared here in College Park and I wanted to go hear him speak. He was at the U of Md, a huge complex. I called my Republican brother and asked him to go with me because I knew there would be a large crowd. My brother said he would consider going but he knew the room would be overwhelmed and he could not handle it. Huckabee was there that night, the night I called, and my brother said he didn't go hear him for that very reason. He said he went to hear Bush* campaign in 2000 and the size of the crowd was oppressive. People pushed forward as Bush* spoke, and my brother, a big guy, said it was suffocating. I don't think Bush* attracted that same magnitude of crowds. I did not go to hear Obama speak.

Two days later I learned 25,000 people showed up in College Park and 15,000 later in Baltimore. People stood in line 5 hours to get in at the U of M.

I watched the speech in its entirety from my home and after finding that out, I am so glad I did. I would love to hear him speak in person, but not along with 24,999 others.

Sam

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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:43 AM
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43. LMAO -- right down to no one having any water but him!
Wow, this is right up here with the ad he is running in WI with the blatant lie that his healthcare plan covers more people's than Clinton's. You know, Obama might just be the guy that makes Bush look honest. Unbelievable.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:45 AM
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44. Oh Shit, not you again... Can the cat drag it back out again? grrrr..n/t
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:27 AM
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71. Yeah, I know -guess this is the only way she/he can make a living.
nt
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:38 AM
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79. Is "Ignored" causing problems again?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:00 AM
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50. He is drawing 15,000 to 20,000 people in rallies
Of course no one brings water to political events except for St. Obama!
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:09 AM
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57. So 20,000 people are in on it?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:14 AM
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59. No. They have water too but it is always Obama who is first to respond...
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:18 AM
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62. And?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:38 AM
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77. They dont have water.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:29 AM
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88. seriously
you can't be this dumb?!?!
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:01 AM
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51. Sigh
And here she is right on cue.

People pass out at large hot events. News? I think not.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:02 AM
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52. 5 times in 6 months
do you realize how many speeches he's given?
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:02 AM
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53. About "Obama's standard response"
What standard response would that be, stopping to wait for help, and asking the crowed to make way? Oh, how predicatable...
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:04 AM
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55. one question. how many people fainted in Beatles concerts?
were they staged? see....when young or older women are confronted with a fantastic man in their presence....some will be overcome and faint. it's just a fact.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:12 AM
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58. Fainting is also more common in teens
I had fainting spells when I was young. In my case it wasn't a reaction to fantastic men in my presence, though, they were just mostly random.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:09 AM
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105. As an older woman myself, I can remember reading about women fainting when JFK
made his speeches. Same deal, crowds, overheating...

JFK was also a stunner in person and he got people all worked up because they saw a new day coming in him. I cast my first vote ever for him and it was a glorious experience, I can tell you!
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:21 AM
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65. Whatever. I've seen this in the front at many different rock concerts, countless times.
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 01:26 AM by Progs Rock
Go to a Morrissey show -- women and men (yes, even/especially straight men) fall all over themselves to get onstage to hug Moz, or collapse in a writhing frenzy when he does his ritual tossing of his shirts into the crowd.

But it doesn't have to be from rock-star-like excitement. Stand around in line for hours without food...
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:44 AM
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82. I personally
saw at least four people faint at a Hillary rally in SC. Hillary stooped talking and tossed her water to one of them. Does that mean it was staged also? People faint at these events. They are in line for hours just to get in. Then it is usually another hour before the event starts. This is such a non story.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:52 AM
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84. I always thought...
...people were supposed to faint when they were slain in the spirit. :shrug:
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:08 AM
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89. Brides and bridesmaids faint all the time.
Standing up for long periods of time, probably something to do with blood pressure. Common occurrance. I've personally witnessed it at weddings.

Secondly, anyone surprised that Obama is the first responder must not have ever taken social psychology classes. Large group dynamics are a different world. Generally, people don't run to the rescue of strangers when they're in a group. It's a phenomenon. Sure some do. That's not the normal thing to do though, for people. Once I was in line at an amusement park and an older man getting off the ride tripped and fell over. Everyone stood there looking at him. Finally I went to him and started to kneel down and that jolted others out of their bystander effect and they started to help too.

Everyone thinks they know how they would act in social situations. But nobody ever acts the way they like to think they would. Just watch old clips from Candid Camera if you don't believe it. The people they filmed in those shows aren't anomoly's, they're ordinary, average people behaving quite "normally" so to speak.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:12 AM
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90. These dumbasses cannot understand that thousands of people are cramming into these events
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 03:13 AM by TheDonkey
it is comparable to rock concerts where ambulances are parked out back. People DO faint when standing for long periods of time with a lot of excitement around them.

The only thing this proves is Obama is a rockstar.

Unlike Hillary who "quit the band" (humor for anyone unlucky enough to see that ad).
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:46 AM
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91. It happened at the end of the Virginia Beach rally
Half the people had already cleared the room(they were rushing out to avoid traffic). I was about to leave and I heard Obama ask for EMT because someone fainted. The person that fainted was right in front of him. He was drinking out of his bottle of water and then noticed her.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:15 AM
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96. He is a slick one
But this could be the result of cult of personality, and nothing more. Now, those fainting women need to be INTERVIEWED at once.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:22 AM
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98. Apparently you've missed it happening at the Clinton events.
In 2004 I was at a Kerry event and a kid toppled over on the stage. It happens. People wait in line, get dehydrated, overexcited and splat. Down they go. No story here . . . move along.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:23 AM
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99. Not only happened to Bill in his campaign, but while campaigning for his WIFE!!!!!
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:26 AM
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100. Having been packed in like sardines at some of these candidates'
rallies and having been made to wait for hours, I can see how that would happen.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:30 AM
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101. Someone call Mic Foley...I Think We Found Mr. Socko


Now, the question is, are you P2BA or KG or one of the others?
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:18 AM
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106. It happens at virtually all of these packed events.
Lawmaker hospitalized after nearly fainting at Clinton rally
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-02-03-congre...

Man faints at Clinton rally in Bridgeton
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/political-fix/politica... /

One woman appeared to faint in the middle of Clintons speech. Clinton stopped to make sure she got some water, then told a story about fainting in front of the statue of David in Italy.
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080119...

Two people pass out at Hillary Clinton rally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz4yQ-o8n1k&feature=rela...

No one is staging these events. It's a fairly common experience.
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:42 PM
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107. haha.
So do they stage it too at packed concerts when people faint? It's called being in a packed room, excitied and overheated. That's what happens when you build a movement and actually inspire people.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:53 PM
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110. And I thought planted questions were over the line. What's next, planted stroke victims?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:54 PM
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111. I'm going to lock this
since the OP is no longer with us
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