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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:30 AM
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Challenge for Clinton supporters to commit to Obama if Clinton does not do well on 3/5/08?
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 02:39 AM by HawkeyeX
after Wisconsin, Hawaii, Ohio, RI, Texas and Vermont - that you will change your support and go with the eventual nominee - Obama.

That is, Hillary does not win OR or have at least 57% on ONE state for the next three weeks, then you will do your Demcoratic duty and change for Obama?

Will you do it? I shall do the same if Hillary Clinton shocks the world and soundly wins any TWO states stated above - I will pledge my support to the eventual nominee, may be it be Obama or Clinton.

That being said, let's smoke this pipe.

and unify. (Pipe has some REAL good kind, if u gotta ask!)

Hawkeye-X
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:33 AM
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1. My guess is that many on here would need time to
come around. Because of some ignorant posters, both sides are feeling a bit raw. Hopefully time heals all wounds.

I will vote for HRC if she is the nominee. But not without a clothespin.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:38 AM
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2. I promise...
...to leave DU if Obama gets the nomination.

That's all I can promise you between now and November.

Quite honestly, this constant push for a "commitment" to Obama (there are at least three other active threads right now trying to do the same basic thing) -- when a great many of us HRC supporters aren't exactly ecstatic over your crushing victories -- has exactly the opposite effect you're after.

It's not sour grapes, and it's not party treason -- it's human nature: Keep pushing, and nagging, and pushing some more, and a person wants to push back. Hard.

I like ya, Hawk, always have -- but d'ya think you could see past your celebratory mood right now and not do this for a while?
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:15 AM
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17. Nearly four hours, and *crickets*
Either I'm right and no one can think of a snarky reply, or I'm on so many ignore lists...
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:38 AM
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3. Why should anyone do that? Why is that your duty? You have the right to vote for the
candidate you believe in, the one thet you think is the best for the job, in the primary.You are asling folks to give up their vote to make life easy for YOUR candidate? Or for a Party? That is a lot of nerve.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:40 AM
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4. Another Loyalty Oath post?
You want it in blood?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:43 AM
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5. You are insane and utterly disgusting
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:45 AM
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6. Take a hike!
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:45 AM
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7. I will chose apathy until November.
Then, I will decide if I can muster it up enough to go and cast an anti-McCain vote.

I've been nothing but loyal to the Democratic party since I turned voting age... but enough is enough. I cannot just be a vote to be counted on anymore. Pander to Republicans that got us in this mess over me? Say that you have my vote in the bag, but nobody else has yours? Fuck you, I say.
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publicatlarge Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:47 AM
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8. Don't know if that will happen
McCain is looking better all the time. He is quite liberal on many issues, and he has experience...

;-)

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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 04:23 AM
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15. Yeah McLameBrain is a real die hard liberal
:eyes:

His experience will keep us in Iraq, and he'd love to Bomb Bomb BOMB, Bomb BOMB Iran.


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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:48 AM
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9. Considering the howls of outrage by Obama supporters at "Clinton Triumphalism"...
you might want to chill out a few more weeks before posting something like this...
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:49 AM
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10. I'm a pragmatist and a realist.
If Hillary doesn't perform to expectations in OH and TX, the writing is on the wall.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:06 AM
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11. What a load of crap, frankly. I have seen a dozen + Obama supporters insist they'd NEVER vote for
Clinton on this very forum--rather VEHEMENTLY, too, with the bullshit excuse that it's over her IWR vote (while they ignore those pesky funding votes all over the Senate to include Obama's), but I don't know a SINGLE Clinton supporter who won't vote for the Dem nominee if it isn't their chosen candidate --- if it's Barack Obama, Al Gore, or Bozo the Goddamned Clown.

That "nose rubbing" behavior doesn't work when the dog shits on the rug, either.

I'm voting for the person who's nominated at our convention. Without equivocation, without conditions. I think anyone who calls themself a Democrat, and understands how high the stakes are, should do the same.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:43 AM
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20. And I've seen a ton of Clinton supporters hypocritically demand the same when she was in the
early lead. Rubbing noses in it started from the other side a long time ago.

That karma thing can suck depending which side of it you are on.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:12 PM
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26. My mileage plainly varies. But, even if that were the case, you're suggesting, rather cravenly
that TWO WRONGS are somehow making a right. I take strong issue with that attitude.

That karma thing CAN suck, can't it?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:17 AM
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27. I was observing and didn't suggest a thing, so take issue with your own attitude.
And yes that karma thing can definitely go both ways, good or bad.

Yin and Yang :)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 02:04 PM
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30. I can't help but note that your 'observation' didn't decry the practice.
Let me make it clear, in case I haven't--I decry the practice.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:14 AM
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12. You'd commit to Hillary if she won two states?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:43 AM
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13. Keep your pipe.
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 04:06 AM
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14. I can do that
I have made up my mind. If she does not do very well, wins both Texas and Ohio, plus pull back to even or at the most -50 delegates it will be time for me to change directions. I am fairly certain (80%) that she is gonna be back on track after 3/05/2008!

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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 04:27 AM
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16. Do "your Demcoratic [sic] duty", did you say? On March 5th? B-b-but . . .
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 04:33 AM by Petrushka
. . . our State primary election isn't until May 13th!

:spank:

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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:35 AM
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18. Ruh-oh. Party divided. Trouble ahead.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:39 AM
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19. I can empathize with those who support HRC. TODAY (day after an Obama 3 state sweep) is ...
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 06:45 AM by ShortnFiery
NOT a good time to broach this issue? :( Even my young daughter knows NOT to ask for "a favor" when I'm in a less than delightful mood state. :shrug:
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:55 AM
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21. Negative
Obama used right-wing machine attacks against Hillary. You don't do that to another Democrat. It is a betrayal -- I cannot vote for Obama.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:55 AM
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22. trippin..
neva gonna happen...nice chanumcca though~
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:57 AM
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23. No.
It doesn't have to do with you or any other DUer, although your behavior here certainly hasn't helped improve my feelings about Obama. The fact is, I despise the man. I will never work for or contribute a cent to him.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:59 AM
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24. must be trippin..
neva gonna happen...nice chanumcca though~:)
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 07:07 AM
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25. I am reserving my right to vote "present"
If Obama gets the nomination and does not have Hillary on the ticket with him.

I am tired of being taken for granted... just because I have been a registered Dem. for 32 years. And have voted for the Dem. in every election.


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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:20 AM
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28. It's funny. The patriarchy is winning, and the Obama folks are giggling like children.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:29 AM
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29. No thanks.
Smoke that.
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