It's sad that one of these candidates must lose.

[kentuck]

I feel sorry for Hillary that she is running behind at this time. I'm sure I would feel the same way if Obama was running behind at this time. Hillary is fighting her heart out. There is nothing else she can do. There is a wave of change sweeping over this country and anybody that gets too close to the wave will be drowned.

Obama is lucky that he is the one person riding this wave. If it had not been Obama, it would have been Edwards or someone else. It just so happens that Obama has been chosen by the people to lead this change - mostly because he is perceived as the one candidate that is the least connected to the stench that is Washington and he is the one person that best defines the problem we are facing as a nation.

But it is George W Bush that brought the need for change into stark relief. It was he that showed the people just how criminal and negligent was our government. It was he that turned his back on the people of New Orleans as they were drowning in their own tears. It was he that said the Constitution was just another piece of paper. And it was he that gave the orders to torture people and to spy on American citizens without warrants, as we lost whatever moral bearing that we might have retained. It was he that finally opened the eyes of the wandering blind generation of youngsters that thought government was too complicated and too messy for them to get involved. Out of necessity, they have been brought into the fold. And they are looking for change.

Time and youth will not be denied. This is the misfortune that Hillary was burdened to carry. The people will not go gently into the night. Truth will be victorious. The times they are a'changin...

[Frances]

1. I certainly hope the times are changing

But I have been disappointed before.

I won't relax until a Dem is sitting in the White House.

[dkf]

2. Mea culpa. I beat up Hillary and Bill left and right but I look

at her and realize how hard she has always worked and how much she must have dreamed of being President...

She can't help that her voice is not melodic.

It must be hard for her, yet she goes out and projects a positive demeanor and she goes on.

I find that very admirable.

[kentuck]

3. Indeed.

Very admirable. I agree.

[joshcryer]

4. OMG wtf.

Hell has frozen over.

:hi: :P :D

[littlebit]

5. I agree

[CitizenLeft]

8. I totally agree

The spark was missing in her eyes tonight, she sees how hard an uphill battle she's in for... but she's soldiering on. Very much admire her for that.

[Egnever]

6. Nice post

I don't feel sorry for Hillary. I do respect her doggedness though. She is not a quitter.

[my3boyz]

10. I agree.

[Withywindle]

7. Great post

K & R

[Triana]

9. Obama was not chosen by the people - he was chosen by the corporations, first...

..and Edwards was rejected by same - the corporations/corporate media.

[bleever]

11. I keep rooting for the one I didn't vote for.

I want it to be close. Actually, I want them to be a coalition, but that might be letting my hope get ahead of me.

It happens.

[MercutioATC]

12. I find it sorry that one of them is going to win...

But, then again, I'm an old ornery bastard who's disgusted with the whole system...

[DeepModem Mom]

13. I was gettng more and more disturbed every time I logged on to DU...

but your thread gives me hope, kentuck. Thank you, thank you for a note of human kindness extended on this board to both the extraordinary people it is our good fortune to have as candidates.

[donheld]

14. That means we win

we have 2 very great candidates both of whom I would be very happy to vote for. So either way, we the people win.

[Eurobabe]

15. I respect HRC for her unwillingness to

give up. She is a good soldier. For that she deserves applause.

But I am not counting her out until after March. Anything can still happen.

[FloridaJudy]

16. Absolutely

I'll find it bittersweet to go the polls in November and vote for the first African American with a decent chance to win the Presidency, because it'll mean I'm not voting for the first woman to do so. Either way we'll both win - and lose - a lot.

BTW, it won't be the first time someone in my family voted for the Black Guy if Obama gets the nod: Mom was a staunch Jesse Jackson supporter. Way for a sweet little old Jewish lady to piss off the neighbors, but my mother always was a hellraiser.

Me? I really wish Barbara Lee were running. The lady has gonads and a heart.

[marions ghost]

17. symbolically speaking

you are right. People are looking for "change" in a big way.

But I'm cynical enough to think that even with a huge mandate for change, the Powers that Be will not let it really happen. Even if Hillary, Barack and John were to jointly control the starship, we are locked into a fight to the death with the forces against all that we stand for.

I don't look for glorious victories anytime soon. But raising spirits is important and we can go far even on a wave that is part delusion and projection.

[Dogmudgeon]

18. Fuck pity; it's the casual lies that are the worst

I am a Hillary supporter; even so, I know that pity is fatal in politics. It's a rough game, but not actually life-and-death for the participants. Hillary won't die if she loses. She will be able to mount a comeback in 2012 or 2016, or possibly even serve in an Obama administration.

And she could pull this thing out of the fire yet and win. Given the MSM's lust for close races, we can expect them to try to boost Hillary or trip up Obama. There are so many factors that I have to (philosophically) laugh at those who think that conditions will never change. Three weeks ago, before NH, Hillary was written off, too. So Hillary can take adversity.

What concerns me is the flood of lies and hatred about her. Dozens of people have casually said things like, "everybody knows how crooked the Clintons are", or "she is so unprincipled" and similar things. Several expect her to steal the election, somehow (the explanation du jour is that this theft will be pulled off using the superdelegate system); therefore, if she wins, it will only be because she cheated. A lot of people have heard and parroted these little defamations so often that they have sunk in.

The irony, of course, is that the Clintons have the reputation of lying for behavior that is SOP in Washington. In fact, they may be a little more carefully scrupulous than most. One of these days, someone is going to ask Hillary what time it is, she will answer that it's 4:15 instead of 4:20, and the MSM will report that she deliberately lied about (or better yet, "triangulated") the time for unknown sinister reasons, but that an anonymous source said ...

Don't think Barack won't get the same treatment if he is the next POTUS. Alexander Cockburn is already working on screeds proving Obama to be a fascist, an imperialist, a Israel-coddler, an international potrzebie merchant, and probably a serial rapist as well (Cockburn's mind runs to those extremes concerning Bill Clinton).

There seems to be a strange kind of self-loathing behind the prevalent idea that everyone is crooked except mine and thine. This is one of the real corrosive behaviors that affect our party. It has nearly sunk Hillary; Obama can not expect to be spared, either.

--p!