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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:18 PM
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Is it realistic that Clinton can still win?
While she's close in delegates, the only thing she has over Obama is her definition of experience. Otherwise, they're both pretty moderate, they both represent a group of people who have been denied opportunity, they each have about an equally good chance of beating McCain, and they're both very good politicians. Obama has run a far better campaign and even now Clinton's campaign pretty much sucks. I think Clinton will lose big today, and going forward I think she'll lose as well. I think by the time Ohio and Texas come around, Obama will have invested the resources and money necessary to make him competitive.

While I like Clinton almost as much as I like Obama, I really don't think she has a chance unless the polls today are way, way off. Obama has run a nearly perfect campaign, and Clinton has given us no compelling reason to oppose him, while if one is looking for compelling reasons not to vote for Clinton, just think of the baggage. Certainly Obama could make a big mistake or some piece of news could play in Clinton's favor, but overall Obama seems like a winner, his views are very safe and moderate, he has more money than Clinton, and his campaign is far superior. I don't think Clinton has a realistic chance at this point. I think she's counting on people getting tired of Obama, but there's no reason to believe that will happen, certainly not by March.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:19 PM
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1. Of course--she's being treated still as the presumed nominee.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:20 PM
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2. I Think She Does
We'll just have to wait and see.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:20 PM
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3. Nope. She can still win. She, until today, still leads in delegates and will
still most likley be ahead in popular vote. It ain't ovah till it's ovah.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:22 PM
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4. Absolutely.
I think it would be silly to underestimate Hillary at this point. Even when/if Obama goes 10 for 10 from Super Tuesday through Feb. 19, Hillary will still be competitive in TX and OH, and even a reasonably good victory in those delegate-heavy states will put her even with Obama, or even over the top.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:23 PM
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5. Still technically possible, but increasingly unlikely
There are still enough delegates up for grabs for her to take the lead, but she would have to have huge (and unlikely) leads in those states in order to capture enough delegates.

It's arguable that the superdelegates could throw the primary in her favor, but they know very well that if they counteract the will of the voters, they will have a full-scale mutiny on their hands.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:23 PM
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6. She never could win.
Oh, she might yet receive the noimination, but she won't win.

Tesha
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:23 PM
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7. As an Obama supporter, I don't think it's over
Looks to me like her campaign is going to bet it all on OH and TX, and I suspect she'll pull out victories there. Even if she doesn't win by big margins, it might give her enough of a bump to keep the funds coming and go on to PA.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:24 PM
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8. of course
It's insane for either side to think it's in the bag.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:27 PM
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9. Right now, all momentum seems to be against her ..... but to answer your question in a word .... yes
Right now, yakking head opinions notwithstanding, the race is almost even with neither side numerically close to ending it. So yeah, technically, it is an open race, still. But I see little on the horizon to suggest Obama's Big Mo is going to diminish any time soon.
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:27 PM
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10. Of course she can
Obama is ahead and gaining ground, but there is a long way to go. After tonight there will still be 1,075 pledged delegates to award, with 2,178 awarded so far (although they are still counting in some states). Basically the race is only 2/3 over, and just about anything could happen.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:28 PM
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11. Of couse she can win. She's still defined as the inevitable one
rightly or wrongly by the media. Discount the Clinton's at your peril. They have made the comeback into an art form.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:35 PM
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12. Yes she can.
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Fabio Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:36 PM
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13. Anything can happen.
Things change in the blink of an eye, but Obama looks strong, for sure.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:16 PM
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14. It's unlikely Obama will trail in PLEDGED delegates & raw votes at the end, HENCE, it'd be SDs ...
who would be decisive in an HRC nomination, almost surely
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:37 PM
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15. All my customers in Va told me they are voting for O now then McCain in Nov. nt
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:39 PM
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16. Clintons have the machine....
The Clinton's have the machine.. you can never count that out.
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