Shallow rhetoric aside, American need radical change

[leftofthedial]

Which candidate offers it?

[babylonsister]

1. Between Obama, Clinton, or McCain? Obama, hands down. nt

[leftofthedial]

2. just relatively, by comparison with the other two?

Or does he truly, deeply represent radical change?

[XemaSab]

3. Process of elimination.

Hillary is running as a third Clinton term.

McCain is running as a third Bush term.

Obama's running as his own man. Whether he IS his own man will remain to be seen, but unlike the other two, he's got a chance greater than ZERO of producing change. :shrug:

[leftofthedial]

5. I know what you mean

that's it in a nutshell

[babylonsister]

6. Respectfully, you are wrong. Immediately he'll change the face of

this country by sending out true diplomats to chat with people for a change instead of threatening people. That will be a huge start. If America has the balls to hire a black man to do our bidding, I think that will be huge, and I hope we have the faith in him (I do) to do so.

[XemaSab]

7. You know what I'm saying.

I personally think Obama can BRING IT in the White House if we give him a chance.

The worst thing that can happen? He's a triangulator like Clinton. But since we KNOW Clinton was a triangulator, why should we settle for that? :shrug:

Eh, I'm sorta cynical. :pals:

[leftofthedial]

8. he's a corporatist, his record is . . . squishy and ambiguous at best

he'll make us a friendlier uber-capitalist nation, but I don't see ANY chance for real change. change needs to be more than skin deep (pun intended).

he is more of an unknown quantity than Clinton, but I'm not satisfied with a choice between an oligarch I know and an oligarch I don't know as well. Assuming that a politician will pleasantly surprise you strikes me more as gullibility than optimism.

[smalll]

4. Well, Obama's got the shallow rhetoric, so he's half-way there! /nt